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Back to Top 71 BOBCAT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 1,903 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 4/29/2012 8:19:06 AM  No loss here, opens up another scholarship. This kid reminded me of Bota. If that 7' transfer from Idaho does show up we can't be any worse off. GO BOBCATS Back to Top UpSan Bobcat General User Member Since: 8/30/2005 Location: Upper Sandusky, OH Post Count: 3,812 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 4/29/2012 10:55:48 AM  Down to 10 scholarship players for next year and only nine until Green is eligible. Hopefully we can bring in another player or two. Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,155 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 4/29/2012 2:00:19 PM  I hope Ethan ends up in a good situation at the right school. Back to Top Bobcat Grad 86 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 1,397 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 4/29/2012 2:02:49 PM  Jeff McKinney wrote: I hope Ethan ends up in a good situation at the right school. +1 , Thank you Ethan for your contribution to the program! Back to Top cc-cat General User Member Since: 4/5/2006 Location: matthews, NC Post Count: 3,948 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 4/29/2012 2:07:09 PM  I also hope it was his decision and we did not "Larry Brown" him. Back to Top RSBobcat General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,437 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 4/29/2012 3:40:23 PM  Bobcat Grad 86 wrote: Jeff McKinney wrote: I hope Ethan ends up in a good situation at the right school. +1 , Thank you Ethan for your contribution to the program! +2. We wish him well in his future endeavors.......... RS Bobcat Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,716 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 4/29/2012 9:00:21 PM  Uhh yeah I have not talked to him as I have not stopped since coming home from the UK but I can pretty much guarantee Ethan was told it was time to go. Be willing to bet that he did nt even get the respect Larry Brown gave those players with an offer to help find a spot. never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top Bobcat Love General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 1,193 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 4/29/2012 9:11:27 PM  Strong words from Borna, so let's go with that.... I've talked to a lot of people who are more than mystified by Christian's performance to date. The goal with this hire should have been to promote consistency. Instead, we are going with the "it's not broke, so we'll fix it" strategy. Not retaining Dustin. Bradds re-opens his recruitment. Caris gets out of his letter. Jacobs transfers. Sure seems like we had a nice thing going with this program and the results were concrete. Was very happy we kept Fuss, but my guess is we haven't seen the last shoe to drop yet. In Christian's defense, this is an un-winnable situation. Anything less then a Sweet 16 and it's a failure in everyone's eyes. I'll stand firmly behind Schaus but I'm becoming more and more leery with every day that passes and every ba.com headline that pops up. Back to Top LongDistancebobcat General User Member Since: 4/25/2012 Post Count: 124 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 4/29/2012 9:25:07 PM  Dustin could have stayed. He chose to go to Illinois. That had nothing to do with JC. If the two recruited players chose to reopen their recruiting, how is that JC's fault? The rest remains to be seen. Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 5,225 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 4/29/2012 10:54:02 PM  I dont know...I mean maybe if we had a bunch of recruits lined up and no scholarships to give, but it is kind of the opposite.  Not dismissing Borna's remarks...Just not going to assume Ethan was shown the door.  If I had to guess, I would say JC may have been honest with Ethan about his potential for playing time in his final 2 years and that he doesn't foresee him ever being part of the regular rotation without a significant turnaround.  Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top Doc Bobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,281 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 4/30/2012 7:21:30 AM  Andrew Ruck wrote: I dont know...I mean maybe if we had a bunch of recruits lined up and no scholarships to give, but it is kind of the opposite.  Not dismissing Borna's remarks...Just not going to assume Ethan was shown the door.  If I had to guess, I would say JC may have been honest with Ethan about his potential for playing time in his final 2 years and that he doesn't foresee him ever being part of the regular rotation without a significant turnaround.  I hope you're right......but like Love I'm still in my "whistlin past the graveyard" stage where "what's next" is replacing "can't wait until next year". Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,548 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 4/30/2012 9:18:22 AM  Bobcat Love wrote: Strong words from Borna, so let's go with that.... I've talked to a lot of people who are more than mystified by Christian's performance to date. The goal with this hire should have been to promote consistency. Instead, we are going with the "it's not broke, so we'll fix it" strategy. Not retaining Dustin. Bradds re-opens his recruitment. Caris gets out of his letter. Jacobs transfers. Sure seems like we had a nice thing going with this program and the results were concrete. Was very happy we kept Fuss, but my guess is we haven't seen the last shoe to drop yet. In Christian's defense, this is an un-winnable situation. Anything less then a Sweet 16 and it's a failure in everyone's eyes. I'll stand firmly behind Schaus but I'm becoming more and more leery with every day that passes and every ba.com headline that pops up. What a joke! Anything but a sweet sixteen is a failure! I am firmly behind Schaus except for his football scheduling which is so bad I think I'll walk out, etc. Anybidy who didn't expect changes is rather delusional. Heck, Groce couldn't even keep 4or 5 guys he recruited when he supposedly knew them well. And all the speculation about what Christian has done in the Jacobs situation is out of line. Give Christian a chance. Last Edited: 4/30/2012 9:20:13 AM by colobobcat66 Back to Top cc-cat General User Member Since: 4/5/2006 Location: matthews, NC Post Count: 3,948 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 4/30/2012 9:32:25 AM  Maybe I'm in the minority, but while I am certainly excited for next year, I'm more interested in future years.  The run to the Sweet 16 was incredible and memorable.  And for many, anything short of that will be disappointing, even tragic.  But there's a great deal that has to go into such a run - ours or Louisville's or anyone.  Yes, a very, very good team that plays hot when it needs to, good match-ups, even fortunate bounces.   Let's remember this team finished 3rd in the East (albeit 1 game back) and was pushed to the limit by a very, almost as good, Akron team (those games will be wars next year!).  We also had good match-ups (not easy, but good for this team) the first two rounds and credit goes to the players and coaches for making the most of it. While I certainly welcome and aspire to return to the Sweet 16 next year, I'm more interested in becoming a Butler, Gonzaga, etc. than a George Mason or UNC-Charlotte.  That means consistently being favored and winning the conference, holding up to that stature in the conference tournament and making consistent trips to the second weekend of the dance...and if the winds blow right even a Final Four.  Retaining a Dustin may have accomplished the short-term objective.  Perhaps Boals would have addressed both short and long-term, but there is no paper trail for that.  Christian brings the pedigree for the long-term.  We'll see if he pays-off.  But in betting on the futures, he makes sense.  We should have only one goal right now (and it is not Sweet 16).  That goal is regular season title.  The path after that will be what it will be. Last Edited: 4/30/2012 9:35:32 AM by cc-cat Back to Top 71 BOBCAT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 1,903 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 4/30/2012 9:56:24 AM  Next years top 8 or so players are back and that was critical. There are 2 keys for JC over these next 9 months. 1) Keep the current team focused for another special season. 2) Recruiting to replace the seniors with at least equivalent talent. If he can accomplish these 2 tasks than he has stepped up to the challenge he has hired for. There is no rebiulding of this team but reloading. GO BOBCATS Back to Top BobcatSports General User Member Since: 2/2/2006 Post Count: 1,094 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 4/30/2012 10:24:26 AM  Just a bit of an "over-reaction" by some I think. Name a program with a coaching change that hasn't had some turnover in personnel or with recruits giving it an "on second thought" maybe I need to re-think this. Hell, Groce couldn't even keep all those HE recruited in Athens. Horne left before he had to get his uniform cleaned, A. Kellogg didn't even break a sweat in an actual game, Kinney was summarily jettisoned and who can forget the wailing and gnashing of teeth over the reported "mis-treatment of whether Sayles was scholarship "worthy". Some bumps in the road are certainly expected at the start of Christian's tenure. How it all plays out down the road is to be determined, but the "playing out" would not have had ANY guarantees no matter it been Dustin or Boals or anyone else for that matter. With them all, including Christian, it's going "to be determined". Back to Top intrpdtrvlr General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Post Count: 177 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 4/30/2012 10:35:01 AM  I always thought it was very strange that Jacobs never redshirted and sometimes wondered if it was a sign of immediate buyer's remorse by the staff.  Why burn the eligibility of a 6'10" project if he isn't ready to play right away?  BA - Michigan State '03, MA - Ohio '05, PhD - Ohio '15 Back to Top bornacatfan General User Member Since: 8/3/2006 Post Count: 5,716 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 4/30/2012 11:37:07 AM  BobcatSports wrote: Hell, Groce couldn't even keep all those HE recruited in Athens. Horne left before he had to get his uniform cleaned, A. Kellogg didn't even break a sweat in an actual game, Kinney was summarily jettisoned and who can forget the wailing and gnashing of teeth over the reported "mis-treatment of whether Sayles was scholarship "worthy". ". Interesting take and accounting. Perhaps that is why JG in his next program, is being so deliberate about "not just filling jersies" I agree with cc upstairs when he talks about becoming a powerhouse in the conference and doing damage year in and out. It's what I been preachin all along and will continue to espouse. This is the best fanbase, gameday and campus in the MAC....no reason not to aspire to fill it with a team that competes mightily every year. As Butler wrangles withthe decision to move the Zags have given up a little bit to St Marys who have become legit whilst trying to stay in the race in the conference. I do hope SHaus and Christian get this thing on the track at the next switch and take it in the direction that all the fans here want and will support. never argue with idiots, they bring you down to their level and beat you with experience. Winter comes and asks how you spent your summer..... The game loves and rewards those who love and reward the game Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 4/30/2012 12:04:22 PM  I don't understand the hand-wringing over this.  First of all, we didn't bring in Christian to maintain continuity. We brought him in to keep the program at a high level.  That doesn't mean everything stays the same.  If we start to lose any of the core 9 guys from last year maybe I'll start to worry.  I also find it humorous that some of the people that were the most critical of Dustin Ford are now using his departure as a black mark.   And it is hardly shocking that Caris Levert and Evan Bradds opened up their recruiting again.  As for Jacobs I also hardly find this surprising especially with Kadeem Green coming on board.  Back to Top Ozcat General User Member Since: 1/4/2005 Location: Gahanna, OH Post Count: 820 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 4/30/2012 3:33:53 PM  The problem with this year's great success is the delusion that comes with it from a portion of the fanbase.  I've heard 'Final Four' mentioned several times.  Was this year a complete blast?  Absolutely.  Can we consistently compete for MAC Titles and regular appearances in the Big Dance?  I think that's reasonable. Did we get extremely fortunate with our draw this year, matching up against two programs who played right into our wheelhouse?  Sure did. Did we run into a perennial power that didn't have it's glue guy (the equivalent, imo, of us losing Cooper) in the Sweet Sixteen and give them all they could handle?  Yep, and that was wonderful too. Does all of the above mean that we're now a 'Final Four' team and should routinely be in the Sweet Sixteen? Not at all. Give me MAC Titles. Back to Top HeHateMiami General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Mason, OH Post Count: 473 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 4/30/2012 4:15:47 PM  Ozcat wrote: Can we consistently compete for MAC Titles and regular appearances in the Big Dance?  I think that's reasonable. Did we get extremely fortunate with our draw this year, matching up against two programs who played right into our wheelhouse?  Sure did. Not to mention, for as amazing as this year was, we came about an errant bounce + put back on a free throw away from playing in the NIT instead of seeing (and beating) Michigan in Nashville.  This year was great and I hope we have more like it, but achieving it once doesn't make it the new expectation for the team (not reasonably so, anyways). Of course that's why they turned to someone with JC's track record... to make it the new expectation.  Back to Top athena General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 710 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 5/1/2012 8:59:17 AM  cc cat wrote: We should have only one goal right now (and it is not Sweet 16).  That goal is regular season title.  The path after that will be what it will be. This is how I see it too. The Sweet 16 run was incredible, amazing, fantastic, wonderful. But we need to focus on season titles ... the rest will fall into place if we can start winning season titles with some consistency. Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 5,225 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 5/1/2012 9:23:07 AM  Yes, but at the same time we shouldn't look back on it like it was some flukey series of fortunate events.  If you really wanted to, you could do that with just about any successful run in sports.  With all due respect Ozcat, this is why I think having a national powerhouse as a 2nd love is counterproductive to your alma mater.  Success is viewed as flukey and fortunate and certainly not sustainable.  Occasionally it even rubs you the wrong way, like when your alma mater beats a team that tied your "other" team for a conference championship.  It becomes about just matching up well and getting hot and not about just straight beating the team. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top Ozcat General User Member Since: 1/4/2005 Location: Gahanna, OH Post Count: 820 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 5/1/2012 10:32:55 AM  Andrew Ruck wrote: Success is viewed as flukey and fortunate and certainly not sustainable. I did not say anything close to this.  I think we can build to a point where we are in the Dance 3/4 years, with sustainable dominance in the MAC.  But to think that we should be in the round of 16 EVERY SINGLE YEAR based on this year's run is a bit crazy, imo.  And again, I was pointing out that SOME think a Final Four is a possibility.  We had a great year and great run.  But we're not VCU or Butler (yet).  How many Final Fours has Gonzaga been to?  Andrew Ruck wrote: Occasionally it even rubs you the wrong way, like when your alma mater beats a team that tied your "other" team for a conference championship.  It becomes about just matching up well and getting hot and not about just straight beating the team. Beating Michigan didn't rub me in the wrong way in the slightest.  It was incredible.  I hate Michigan, and being at that game watching us handle them is something I'll never forget.  At the same exact time, I can honestly say we were hot, and the matchup WAS perfect for us.  95% of the NCAA Tourney comes down to matchups, and our matchups were incredibly favorable, but I wouldn't go so far as to call them flukey.  We were more athletic than Michigan, had the upper hand, and showed that for 35 minutes of that game.  No fluke about it.  Michigan's B1G record has absolutely no bearing on my thoughts in my previous post.  I could care less that they tied tOSU in the B1G regular season.  How'd they do against them in the B1G tourney?  Did Louisville seem to care that South Florida finished higher than them in the Big East standings?  Matchups are the name of the game in March.  Had we had to go through Wisconsin then Vanderbilt, I'd venture to bet the results may have been different. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,764 Status: Offline     RE: Jacobs transferring    Posted: 5/1/2012 10:34:28 AM  Andrew Ruck wrote: Yes, but at the same time we shouldn't look back on it like it was some flukey series of fortunate events.  If you really wanted to, you could do that with just about any successful run in sports.  With all due respect Ozcat, this is why I think having a national powerhouse as a 2nd love is counterproductive to your alma mater.  Success is viewed as flukey and fortunate and certainly not sustainable.  Occasionally it even rubs you the wrong way, like when your alma mater beats a team that tied your "other" team for a conference championship.  It becomes about just matching up well and getting hot and not about just straight beating the team. +1   Also, is the Jacobs transfer official, or is this still in the realm of well-reported rumor?  The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." 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