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Topic: Less pressure at Ohio than TCU????

Topic: Less pressure at Ohio than TCU????

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Pataskala
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Less pressure at Ohio than TCU????

Posted: 4/12/2012 9:46:07 AM

Mike Huguenin says there will be less pressure in Jim Christian to have a winner at Ohio than at TCU, simply because TCU is moving up to the Big Twelv:

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/ncaab--thirty-five-schools--...

I disagree. TCU was so-so in the MWC and would only be expected to "compete" (i.e., be so-so at best) -- not necessarily have a winner -- for several years in the Big Twelv, a much stronger conference (they had 6 teams in the NCAA tourney; MWC had 4). But given Ohio's past three seasons, and especially with everybody returning from a Sweet 16 team next season -- there's gotta be more pressure on Christian to win right away at Ohio.

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RE: Less pressure at Ohio than TCU????

Posted: 4/12/2012 9:55:28 AM

I agree with you...I dont think there would have been much pressure at TCU to win in basketball...at least for the forseeable future. Maybe after 3 or 4 years...okay, but we all know the reason why they joined the 12....football. As long as the football program won games and made a decent bowl every year with the occasional BCS bowl, I think the basketball team at TCU could stay around .500 in the big 12 and no one would say a thing...in fact, the coach would get a long term contract.

But to me thats the difference in the "BCS" vs mid-major conferences...right at or above .500 in a BCS conference with around 20 wins, and your team is in the discussion for the NCAA.

At a "mid-major"...anything more than 4-5 losses in your conference and you can kiss the dance goodbye unless you run the conference tourney. To me, thats pressure.

Thats why I think, outside of the few crazed alumni in Illinois, Groce stepped down in terms of immediate pressure to perform. All he has to do is get the team at or above .500 in the B1G and get a few OOC wins and make the tourney from every other year, or at worst once in the first 3 years, and he will build that program back after a few years.

Last Edited: 4/12/2012 10:02:52 AM by PTgrad

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RE: Less pressure at Ohio than TCU????

Posted: 4/12/2012 10:16:47 AM

I think the writer of this article just used a poor classification of the differences between TCU and OHIO. It's not that there's less pressure at OHIO, but it certainly looks a lot easier to achieve something here that could be qualified as at least partial success.

TCU was mediocre in the MWC and they're moving to a better conference. Gonna be really tough to win enough games with that squad (next year or beyond given the program) to even sniff a post-season birth. To take an idea from another thread, imagine if OHIO moved to the Big East tomorrow (or better yet after this season when we lose Baltic, Keely, Offutt, and Cooper). Sure it's possible that we could compete, but the odds of success go way down with the schedule we'd be up against. That's kind of the situation TCU was in, only worse, because their program is probably in worse shape that ours.

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RE: Less pressure at Ohio than TCU????

Posted: 4/12/2012 10:37:36 AM

TCU will likely be considered the worst basketball team in the Big12 and for the foreseeable future.

Ohio will likely be considered the best basketball team in the MAC and be a top 3-4 team for the foreseeable future.

He's trying to take the "there's more pressure to win in a bigger conference route" but what he fails to acknowledge is Ohio just gave Christian the largest contract in the MAC and by a pretty wide margin. The AD is also on record saying he wants Ohio to be a mid major power. Not sure how that equates to less pressure?

Especially when you consider TCU is a complete afterthought in terms of fan and university support. Ohio is the opposite. They are investing more money in the basketball program and will likely break all the newly set 2012 attendance records again next year.

Typically a Big12 job would have more pressure but I have a feeling this author has no clue about TCU's situation in basketball. He probably looks at football and assumes all sports are getting that kind of support.

My high school basketball coach had an old saying.....There are two things that don't last: Dogs that chase cars and teams that don't make free-throws.

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RE: Less pressure at Ohio than TCU????

Posted: 4/12/2012 10:51:17 AM

Shoddy journalism. Do the work. THis fanbase is arriving. TCU fan packs it up once football is over. Pressure is on .... mark it down and speaking for the fanbase at large... as Hawkeye Peirce so eloquently put it ...."we want something more, we want something more...." .

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RE: Less pressure at Ohio than TCU????

Posted: 4/12/2012 11:16:55 AM

The expectation levels here will be huge next year. Not only will the fans expect a repeat performance but the casual and non-fans will expect some bang for the buck that we are paying. If we have an after Danny or after Grobe season, attendance will rival what the Indians are currently getting.

That said, I'm sure that this guy clearly knows that and will do all within his power to continue this hot streak.

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RE: Less pressure at Ohio than TCU????

Posted: 4/12/2012 11:21:50 AM

Which fanbase will accept a 15-15 record more easily? If he had said that it was easier to win at Ohio I'd be with him. But the expectations at each school are not even close. As one of the fans on the TCU board said North Texas is a better job right now than TCU.

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RE: Less pressure at Ohio than TCU????

Posted: 4/12/2012 12:56:14 PM

There is more pressure on one-bid-conference teams period.

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

Eagle66
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RE: Less pressure at Ohio than TCU????

Posted: 4/12/2012 2:22:47 PM

I took his comment to mean Christian himself would be under more pressure as another sub par season or two would have probably had him fired.

But I would agree we expect more than TCU fans, and for good reason.

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RE: Less pressure at Ohio than TCU????

Posted: 4/16/2012 10:38:06 AM

It looks to me like Christian has hairline issues that he hasn't completely dealt with. Not the bozo look of TOS, but not the man up look of Groce. Could this be a barometer to keep an eye on?

Brian Smith (No, not that one)
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RE: Less pressure at Ohio than TCU????

Posted: 4/16/2012 8:25:49 PM

Eagle66 wrote:

This is how I interpreted the term "pressure", as well. He was under more pressure — as in, he was going to be fired at TCU.

Ohio isn't going to fire Jim Christian after this season no matter what happens on the court.

The writer probably should be more precise with his words there.

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RE: Less pressure at Ohio than TCU????

Posted: 4/16/2012 11:46:04 PM

giacomo wrote:

It looks to me like Christian has hairline issues that he hasn't completely dealt with. Not the bozo look of TOS, but not the man up look of Groce. Could this be a barometer to keep an eye on?

A season of short in the clock 30 ft 3 launches, too many missed FT's, and just hang on/comeback after losing big leads wins will take care of what's left.............

RS Bobcat

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