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giacomo
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  Message Not Read  NYTimes article about DJ Cooper
   Posted: 3/19/2012 4:42:48 PM 

Ohio’s Cooper Has Seen the Dark Side

D.J. Cooper of Ohio driving past Anthony Collins of South Florida on Sunday.Harrison Mcclary/ReutersD.J. Cooper of Ohio driving past Anthony Collins of South Florida on Sunday.

8:16 p.m. | Updated
NASHVILLE — When players like Lehigh’s C.J. McCollum or Ohio’s D.J. Cooper put on a transcendent performance in the N.C.A.A. tournament, they are showered with adulation and publicity that is usually lacking for lower-profile programs.

But as Cooper found out after his freshman year at Ohio in 2010, there is also a dark side to stepping onto the national stage for the first time in the N.C.A.A. tournament. When asked if he had many coaches trying to lure him from Ohio after he scored 23 points in an upset of Georgetown in that year’s N.C.A.A. tournament, Cooper smiled.

“I was getting calls left and right,” he said. “I was getting some calls from different high-major schools and different people. I’m big on loyalty.”

Cooper stayed at Ohio and was an unusual modern recruit. He had interest from universities like Baylor, California and Wichita State but decided on Ohio because it recruited him the hardest.

Both Cooper and his high school coach, Brandon Thomas, declined to name the programs trying to poach him. Recruiting a player before he is released from his current program is against N.C.A.A. rules. Cooper’s mother, Dionne, identified Baylor Coach Scott Drew as someone who attempted to lure her son from Ohio.

“He wasn’t necessarily calling and saying, ‘Come on over,’ ” she said. “He would say: ‘Oh, this is great. I knew you could do it. The exposure you’re getting now, you’re not getting it in the MAC because you’re not on TV.’ He was really trying to sell to me. ‘We know you can do these things, but because of where you are, you’re not getting the attention you deserve.’ ”
 

When reached Sunday, Drew said: “After he signed with Ohio, I never talked with the mom or the dad or D.J. We wish him the best of luck in his career.”

D.J. Cooper declined to comment when asked if Kenneth Caldwell, a Chicago-based runner for an agent, who admitted recruiting players for Central Florida and other programs, had reached out to him. Caldwell had a close relationship with Jerome Randle, the former Pac-10 player of the year at California who played with Cooper when he attended Hales Franciscan High School in Chicago. All Cooper would say about Caldwell is that he knew him.

Cooper played his senior year at Seton Academy in Illinois, where Thomas, a former Hales Franciscan assistant, said he could not believe the amount of poachers.

“I remember my phone ringing as I had an unsigned senior,” Thomas said. “I thought it was amazing. That was a side of the business I had never experienced, coaches trying to pry a guy away and pry him away from Ohio.”

And that is modern college basketball, where even the shining moments have a dark side.



















 

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  Message Not Read  RE: NYTimes article about DJ Cooper
   Posted: 3/19/2012 4:52:05 PM 
Are there any possible NCAA sanctions for knowing about but not reporting a violation another program commits? Maybe I'm just being paranoid, but I know, for instance, that attorneys have an ethical duty to report known ethical violations, and failure to do so is itself an ethical violation. Is there anything comparable like that in the NCAA rules?
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  Message Not Read  RE: NYTimes article about DJ Cooper
   Posted: 3/19/2012 6:29:33 PM 
As far as I know, nothing like that exists C Money. They should feel some obligation and also paranoid themselves to report it to the NCAA, but it's not required. Not surprising coming from Baylor or Tennessee given their history the past couple of seasons. Two things struck me about this being reported:

1) What balls on these bigger programs to try and pluck away a player from a smaller school when he just led them to an NCAA Tournament birth and win. Makes me sick.

2) GOD I LOVE DJ COOPER. Loyalty is a huge character trait in my book, and he passed the grade 100%.
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  Message Not Read  RE: NYTimes article about DJ Cooper
   Posted: 4/9/2012 2:00:08 PM 
      NCAA investigating Baylor basketball programs, men and women. Not sure if this relates to how they tried to recruit DJ.

       Possible death penalty? If not, when does the death penalty apply?
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  Message Not Read  RE: NYTimes article about DJ Cooper
   Posted: 4/9/2012 2:16:43 PM 
bobcatsquared wrote:
      NCAA investigating Baylor basketball programs, men and women. Not sure if this relates to how they tried to recruit DJ.

       Possible death penalty? If not, when does the death penalty apply?


Never.
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Shawn Sellers
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  Message Not Read  RE: NYTimes article about DJ Cooper
   Posted: 4/9/2012 2:19:05 PM 
bobcatsquared wrote:
      NCAA investigating Baylor basketball programs, men and women. Not sure if this relates to how they tried to recruit DJ.

       Possible death penalty? If not, when does the death penalty apply?


This has been an ongoing investigation, that on the men's side, had not implicated Drew, but rather an assistant coach. Given that they were already investigating the program, I'd bet that DJ's claim is added to the list. The NCAA is investigating thousands of impermissible phone calls and text messages from both the men's and women's program, so I can imagine that Drew has to be sweating right now.
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  Message Not Read  RE: NYTimes article about DJ Cooper
   Posted: 4/9/2012 2:41:18 PM 
Tennessee's coach denied ever talking to DJ, and baylor, well the state of texas seems to be like the SEC -- you have to cheat to win.
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  Message Not Read  RE: NYTimes article about DJ Cooper
   Posted: 4/9/2012 5:01:44 PM 


The big lesson for all these coaches is to get some Stringer Bell-esque burner phones....

I can't believe there's even phones to trace.





 

Last Edited: 4/9/2012 5:02:05 PM by Ohio69


Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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  Message Not Read  RE: NYTimes article about DJ Cooper
   Posted: 4/9/2012 5:42:32 PM 
Lord Wellington Fisherburn wrote:
bobcatsquared wrote:
      NCAA investigating Baylor basketball programs, men and women. Not sure if this relates to how they tried to recruit DJ.

       Possible death penalty? If not, when does the death penalty apply?


Never.


If ever the death penalty were to apply it'd be in Texas though, right? 
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  Message Not Read  RE: NYTimes article about DJ Cooper
   Posted: 4/9/2012 9:59:05 PM 
Did anybody catch that awesome article about Steve Hays research on the cover of today's NY Times?


BA OHIO 2010, BS OHIO 2010, MA Delaware 2012

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  Message Not Read  RE: NYTimes article about DJ Cooper
   Posted: 4/9/2012 11:44:30 PM 
james hall united wrote:
Tennessee's coach denied ever talking to DJ, and baylor, well the state of texas seems to be like the SEC -- you have to cheat to win.


Between DJ's parents and that twerp who'd you believe? 


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  Message Not Read  RE: NYTimes article about DJ Cooper
   Posted: 4/10/2012 12:19:38 PM 
bobcatsquared wrote:
Possible death penalty? If not, when does the death penalty apply?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_penalty_(NCAA)

The repeat violator rule (aka the Death Pentalty), can be applied "if a second major violation occurs at any institution within five years of being on probation in the same sport or another sport."  So, Baylor would have had to have been on probation in the past 5 years for it to apply.

In reality, it has not been used on a revenue program since SMU football in the 80's, when they were sanctioned for paying players, then got caught paying the same players a year later).


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