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Topic: How do you feel about John Calipari?

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How do you feel about John Calipari?

Posted: 4/3/2012 1:18:49 PM

How do you feel about John Calipari?

	Can't stand him - He is everything that is wrong with college basketball.
	No strong feelings - Just another coach.
	Admire him - He is only doing what is best for his players.
	Dislike him - Strictly for the rules violations that have happened under his watch.

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John Calipari's "one and done" philosophy has been a big point of contention over the past few years, and now that his teenage players have one him the 2012 National Championship (at least for now)during their pit stop in Lexington, questions are arising as to what this means for college basketball.

I can't help but feel like he really means what he says when he says he is "only doing what is best for these kids."

Who is he to try and convince them to forego the ability to support their families for years, while risking the future of their careers?

I understand if you dislike him for the rules violations, but I think I take issue with those that criticize his one-and-done style.

What do you think?

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Posted: 4/3/2012 1:41:35 PM

I can't blame him for the one-and-done strategy. He does what the system allows him to do, and if it wasn't him, it would be someone else. In other words, if you don't like what he does, you need to take it up with the NCAA or NBA.

But I think that, ultimately, what he does is not in his players' long-term best interests. And it's certainly not in the spirit of college athletics. It's one thing if your success leads to your leaving early. It's another if you go there with the intention of leaving after one year. If Ohio was doing that, it would be hard to support. That's just not what we're about.

The cheating is an entirely different matter. He should have been nailed to the wall long ago.

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RE: How do you feel about John Calipari?

Posted: 4/3/2012 1:55:29 PM

Schaus didn't even give him a freaking interview! - MiamiBlowsChunks

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RE: How do you feel about John Calipari?

Posted: 4/3/2012 1:57:52 PM

I have to agree with the tweet that came in to Mike & Mike this morning: They'd better hang the banner with velcro.

The one-and-done philosophy isn't really good for the kids -- how much can they mature in a year? -- and it hurts the program in the long run. How soon 'til KY loses scholarships and post-season ops because of their poor graduation rate (ala UConn)? But he's taking advantage of a lousy rule. Nothing stops baseball or hockey or soccer players from jumping straight from high school to pro ball. If football and b-ball weren't money-makers for schools, they wouldn't make kids sit out three yrs and one yr, respectively, before turning pro.

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RE: How do you feel about John Calipari?

Posted: 4/3/2012 2:55:12 PM

Pataskala wrote:

I have to agree with the tweet that came in to Mike & Mike this morning: They'd better hang the banner with velcro.

LOL, that's awesome!

I still love the question he got prior to last year's final four "Coach Calipari, how does it feel to coach in your first final four?" Priceless.

Last Edited: 4/3/2012 3:02:28 PM by OUVan

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RE: How do you feel about John Calipari?

Posted: 4/3/2012 3:04:32 PM

It's one of the MANY things wrong with college athletics. I think the guy is a pompous grease ball but it's not his rule.

It is laughable that a kid comes in and “allegedly” attends classes, goes to the tournament and then “allegedly” continues to attend class before leaving for the NBA. Sure he does.

1A sports are certainly not on the same playing field. TV = money and we (along with many others) don't have it. The fact we need alumni donations to build the multi-purpose facility is a perfect example of what many of us have seen time and time again. Yet we forge on!

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RE: How do you feel about John Calipari?

Posted: 4/3/2012 3:30:00 PM

What about UMass1996 & Memphis 2008?

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Posted: 4/3/2012 3:55:03 PM

OU77BCJ wrote:

What about UMass1996 & Memphis 2008?

Never happened.

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Posted: 4/3/2012 3:58:16 PM

Brian Smith wrote:

Schaus didn't even give him a freaking interview! - MiamiBlowsChunks

I can't stop laughing at that one!!

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RE: How do you feel about John Calipari?

Posted: 4/3/2012 5:04:41 PM

Diamond Cat wrote:

It's one of the MANY things wrong with college athletics. I think the guy is a pompous grease ball but it's not his rule.

It is laughable that a kid comes in and “allegedly” attends classes, goes to the tournament and then “allegedly” continues to attend class before leaving for the NBA. Sure he does.

Wouldn't it be informative to know how many academic credits have been accumulated by one-and-dones since this rule went into effect?

The sad and ironinc fact is that for all its blathering about protecting the integrity of scholastic sports with its rules, the NCAA has created a situation where average college programs have no choice but to compete against nominally professonal athletes who are just biding their time - mostly at Kentucky.

Who's in favor of freshman ineligibility again?

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RE: How do you feel about John Calipari?

Posted: 4/3/2012 5:09:48 PM

I would love to see the baseball rule in play - can't leave until after JR year in college (or after SR year in HS).

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RE: How do you feel about John Calipari?

Posted: 4/3/2012 6:32:18 PM

JSF wrote:

OU77BCJ wrote:

What about UMass1996 & Memphis 2008?

Never happened.

Sincerely,
The NCAA

+1

I died laughing at this. Your ethos really is what did it.

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RE: How do you feel about John Calipari?

Posted: 4/3/2012 7:27:19 PM

Bobcatbob wrote:

Diamond Cat wrote:

It's one of the MANY things wrong with college athletics. I think the guy is a pompous grease ball but it's not his rule.

It is laughable that a kid comes in and “allegedly” attends classes, goes to the tournament and then “allegedly” continues to attend class before leaving for the NBA. Sure he does.

I'm all for no restrictions whatsoever and let all capable go to the NBA whenever desired.

Also, preferable to the one-year rule is the rule where anyone can go to the NBA directly out of high school, but once in a college program, must stay 2 or 3 years.

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RE: How do you feel about John Calipari?

Posted: 4/4/2012 12:25:52 AM

I really can't figure out how an institution with the reputation of UK would have ever hired this sleaze bag. I wonder when we'll start hearing about the irregularities that happened with this team. Well, come to think of it, Kentucky did have the racist Adolph Rupp as its head coach for years, so maybe I shouldn't be quite so surprised.

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RE: How do you feel about John Calipari?

Posted: 4/4/2012 7:44:59 AM

OhioCatFan wrote:

Because UK basketball fans are worse than osu football fans, and they REALLY don't care about anything other than winning basketball games and championships.

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RE: How do you feel about John Calipari?

Posted: 4/4/2012 9:57:22 AM

C Money wrote:

Because UK basketball fans are worse than osu football fans, and they REALLY don't care about anything other than winning basketball games and championships.

I suppose being born into the Big Blue nation I can get lumped into that .....but I really do not care if it is UK, Muncie Central, Ohio or whomaever I am associated with....I like to win....that said I think there are other things I care about ...character, grades, respect for the game....while there are admittedly the fringe Cat fans that are nuts I don't think I have ever been met with so much arrogance as the Kansas fans who were wanting to buy the other half of our tickets on the way *IN* to play Carolina......

I have also found that most Cat fans do not embody the stereotype that exists and none that have shown me the behaviour of the typical tO$U non alumni fan....but everyone will take that as wearing blue colored glasses....

Not a Calipari fan from 2001 when we were in Memphis and he had elite 7th graders to his house for a cook out ... saw the sleazy side of that but I do think as he matures he is really devoting himself to the kids rather than the career. Teagues have nothing but praise and Mookie is indeed in classes and keeping his grades up much to Mama Carol's deight.

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RE: How do you feel about John Calipari?

Posted: 4/4/2012 1:12:10 PM

Here is how John Chaney feels: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6jUpHClybQ

Last Edited: 4/4/2012 1:12:23 PM by Bobcat Grad 86

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RE: How do you feel about John Calipari?

Posted: 4/4/2012 3:40:05 PM

Here's is a great NYT article on this subject with an OU connection.

One and Done

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RE: How do you feel about John Calipari?

Posted: 4/4/2012 8:30:54 PM

I wonder what his academic progress ratings have been, er, well ,maybe that's one of the things, like hmm, traveling, that doesn't matter anymore.

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RE: How do you feel about John Calipari?

Posted: 4/4/2012 9:22:37 PM

I do not like the 'tucky at all. Who wouldn't win the NCAA with the clearly most talented kids? Yeah, he's a good coach, but where's the challenge in having the most talent every year (see NBA selections for validationon that).

Where's the penalty for all the early leavers/non-grads? There's no way a school or coach should be able to stock up this way year after year without paying significant scholarship penalties such that a school or coach can only do this for a year or two.

Oh. Sorry. I'm thinking that there's an element of 'student' in student-athlete.

Wasn't it 'tucky with the infamous cash falling out of the FedEx envelope? Nice.

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Posted: 4/4/2012 9:43:09 PM

The Bozone wrote:

I wonder what his academic progress ratings have been, er, well ,maybe that's one of the things, like hmm, traveling, that doesn't matter anymore.

http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/newmedia/public/rates/index2.html

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Posted: 4/4/2012 11:30:13 PM

bornacatfan wrote:

[QUOTE=C Money]
I don't think I have ever been met with so much arrogance as the Kansas fans who were wanting to buy the other half of our tickets on the way *IN* to play Carolina.......

I gotta chime in on this. I sold my Sunday tics to a Kansas fan on the way out Friday night. W/my son there and not knowing what the game time would be on Sunday, plus the 7.5 hr drive home and he had to be in school Monday AM after pulling him out for the Friday game, plus I didn't really care about the UNC/Kansas game. We decided to sell the tics and just spend Saturday enjoying some time around St. Louis (i.e. Delmar North shopping/browsing, Pappy's BBQ for dinner - AWESOME!) and then hit the road Sunday afternoon. The Kansas fans tics buyers were not obnoxious at all, very politely "inquired" if we might have tics we wanted to sell. In fact everyone I met the whole weekend from Kansas were great - at the hotel, on the streets, at the game - friendly, interested in knowing more about OHIO, etc., etc.

OTOH - Everyone I met that was UNC related - pretty much jerks, Gomers (incl "Gomer wanna be's), or snobbish & rude - before, during, and after the game. I don't like to stereotype - but it was impossible not to after a while!

Therefore - though have been an "interested follower" of UK through the years (lotta great BBall history there) - I was really rooting for Kansas in the final - I wanted them to win for the nice folks/fans I met in St. Louis.

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Posted: 4/5/2012 12:45:58 AM

Monroe, his good friend and I had the Sunday tix sold to fans hanging over the rail as soon as the final hrn sounded. Those KU guys were standing 3 deep leaning over the edge peeling off hundreds for 3 in a row. Interesting phenomenon. Those seats for Sunday went in a heartbeat.

You are right there were some KU folks who9 were saying what a "nice" team we had and complimenting our play as I walked around the Landing and subsequently returned to the Millenium

I have long had respect for the KU program as it is one of the Icons in college basketball. The last 5 years we have run across them a few times now. My opinion is genrally good but I have run across a pretty fair number of insufferables in McFaddens, the Orleans and now St Louis.

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Posted: 4/5/2012 5:26:52 PM

How is UCONN in jeopardy of missing the tournament next year due to its academic performance but Kentucky is still eligible? Has there been a Kentucky player in the last four years to graduate?

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Posted: 4/5/2012 5:57:46 PM

finnOhio wrote:

How is UCONN in jeopardy of missing the tournament next year due to its academic performance but Kentucky is still eligible? Has there been a Kentucky player in the last four years to graduate?

APR, despite all the hoopla around it, has little to nothing to do with graduating. A player who leaves in good academic standing to play in the NBA is as good as a 4 year graduate. I imagine it isn't too hard to stay academically eligible at Kentucky playing ball *wink* *nudge*.

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