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Topic:  Know your opponent: Kent St.
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brucecuth
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  Message Not Read  Know your opponent: Kent St.
   Posted: 6/12/2021 8:12:55 AM 
very well done piece on new AD and hoops program outlook.

https://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/2021/06/kent-ext...
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giacomo
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   Posted: 6/12/2021 11:39:08 AM 
It appears they are realistic with what they are paying coaches and the AD.
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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  RE: Know your opponent: Kent St.
   Posted: 6/12/2021 12:17:52 PM 
brucecuth wrote:
very well done piece on new AD and hoops program outlook.

https://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/2021/06/kent-ext...


This quote is becoming more and more common:

He meant that 40-of-41 players who finished playing at Kent received their degrees under Senderoff.

I'm not sure what that has do to with anything. It basically says that after 4 or 5 years in the program, a guy graduated.
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Alan Swank
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   Posted: 6/12/2021 12:20:13 PM 
giacomo wrote:
It appears they are realistic with what they are paying coaches and the AD.


That guaranteed game idea is unique although I'm not sure how that takes "some of the burden off the university" unless it means that if a guy gets fired early, the university doesn't have to pay that part of the contract.

If I'm the coach, I'm shopping for the biggest guarantee I can find.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Know your opponent: Kent St.
   Posted: 6/12/2021 12:58:08 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
brucecuth wrote:
very well done piece on new AD and hoops program outlook.

https://www.cleveland.com/sports/college/2021/06/kent-ext...


This quote is becoming more and more common:

He meant that 40-of-41 players who finished playing at Kent received their degrees under Senderoff.

I'm not sure what that has do to with anything. It basically says that after 4 or 5 years in the program, a guy graduated.



Or that a senior or a grad student who may have transferred in during Senderoff's tenure got a degree from Kent.

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giacomo
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  Message Not Read  RE: Know your opponent: Kent St.
   Posted: 6/12/2021 2:04:10 PM 
Graduation rates mean a lot. If they are truly student athletes, they should graduate. If those numbers are low that says something else is going on.
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Alan Swank
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   Posted: 6/12/2021 3:06:09 PM 
giacomo wrote:
Graduation rates mean a lot. If they are truly student athletes, they should graduate. If those numbers are low that says something else is going on.


My point was that a guy who has completed his eligibility should graduate. This is a misleading stat. What it doesn't say is how many of the people who entered as freshmen graduated. That's the number that's more important.
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BillyTheCat
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   Posted: 6/12/2021 8:59:46 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
giacomo wrote:
Graduation rates mean a lot. If they are truly student athletes, they should graduate. If those numbers are low that says something else is going on.


My point was that a guy who has completed his eligibility should graduate. This is a misleading stat. What it doesn't say is how many of the people who entered as freshmen graduated. That's the number that's more important.



Sadly, ending your eligibility is not a guarantee of graduating.
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OUcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Know your opponent: Kent St.
   Posted: 6/16/2021 8:17:33 PM 
Considering the amount of transfers/jucos in and out of programs these days tracking freshmen is kind of bogus as well.

Every coach claims those kind of grad numbers. No big deal. As for pocketing the guarantee $$$, that's smart ... as long as there are still 1-2 other guarantee games that go back to the school.

Kent has had as much success as any MAC school winning $$$ games, so pocketing one big payday vs. the likes of Duke/Kansas then trying to 'upset' a Boston College or Kansas State (while picking up 2 more paychecks) seems like a pretty good setup for all involved.
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