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  Message Not Read  What should Jason Preston do?
   Posted: 7/3/2021 2:38:27 PM 
As an Ohio U. guy, obviously I would want Preston to return for his senior season--especially since we have a team that looks like it really can do some damage on the national scene. But as someone who was involved in many drafts from both the college and NBA sides as a sports writer, past history dictates he should come back and look to improve his drafting position from second round to top 15 in the first round, even looking to get into the lottery-team spots.

Now there have been kids who stayed in school too long. One I remember vividly is point guard Mark Price, who would have been a top 5 pick if he had left Georgia Tech following his junior season in 1984-85. Price stayed, the team didn't do as well as expected, and he dropped to the second round, selected by Dallas at pick No. 25, then traded to the Cavs while the draft continued. Price went on to have an all-star NBA career. So it worked out. But he lost a lot of dollars up front by his choice to return to school.

I see Jason as being in the opposite situation as he has nothing to lose and all to gain by returning to Athens. In his situation, Preston potentially could cost himself a long-term GUARANTEED contract right out of the gate if he comes out too soon. Ponder this: I wonder where Ja Morant would have gotten drafted if he had come out of Murray State after averaging 13 points, 6 assists and 6 rebounds his junior season? What a difference a year made!

Also, Preston's learning curve has been accelerated since being in the NBA environment for the past month. He's gonna come back to Athens an improved player with even more confidence than he had before, right? He figures to be one of the best players in the nation. He's already gotten a ton of national exposure and that will continue because he will play well. The sky could be the limit!

Oh yeah. If he's worried about a career-ending injury, he can be insured.

Last Edited: 7/3/2021 2:45:46 PM by FlashGary
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   Posted: 7/3/2021 2:43:27 PM 
FlashGary wrote:
As an Ohio U. guy, obviously I would want Preston to return for his senior season--especially since we have a team that looks like it really can do some damage on the national scene. But as someone who was involved in many drafts from both the college and NBA sides as a sports writer, past history dictates he should come back and look to improve his drafting position from second round to top 15 in the first round, even looking to get into the lottery-team spots.

Now there have been kids who stayed in school too long. One I remember vividly is point guard Mark Price, who would have been a top 5 pick if he had left Georgia Tech following his junior season in 1984-85. Price stayed, the team didn't do as well as expected, and he dropped to the second round, selected by Dallas at pick No. 25, then traded to the Cavs while the draft continued. Price went on to have an all-star NBA career. So it worked out. But he lost a lot of dollars up front by his choice to return to school.

I see Jason as being in the opposite situation as he has nothing to lose and all to gain by returning to Athens. In his situation, Preston potentially could cost himself a long-term GUARANTEED contract right out of the gate if he comes out too soon. Ponder this: I wonder where Ja Morant would have gotten drafted if he had come out of Murray State after averaging 13 points, 6 assists and 6 rebounds his junior season? What a difference a year made!


IF he thinks he has a shot at a guaranteed contract, he should go. But he does have something to lose if he stays. Injury. Another of year of people poking holes in your game. And you don't know how next year's draft class is going to go.

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   Posted: 7/3/2021 2:58:13 PM 
Ted Thompson wrote:
FlashGary wrote:
As an Ohio U. guy, obviously I would want Preston to return for his senior season--especially since we have a team that looks like it really can do some damage on the national scene. But as someone who was involved in many drafts from both the college and NBA sides as a sports writer, past history dictates he should come back and look to improve his drafting position from second round to top 15 in the first round, even looking to get into the lottery-team spots.

Now there have been kids who stayed in school too long. One I remember vividly is point guard Mark Price, who would have been a top 5 pick if he had left Georgia Tech following his junior season in 1984-85. Price stayed, the team didn't do as well as expected, and he dropped to the second round, selected by Dallas at pick No. 25, then traded to the Cavs while the draft continued. Price went on to have an all-star NBA career. So it worked out. But he lost a lot of dollars up front by his choice to return to school.

I see Jason as being in the opposite situation as he has nothing to lose and all to gain by returning to Athens. In his situation, Preston potentially could cost himself a long-term GUARANTEED contract right out of the gate if he comes out too soon. Ponder this: I wonder where Ja Morant would have gotten drafted if he had come out of Murray State after averaging 13 points, 6 assists and 6 rebounds his junior season? What a difference a year made!


IF he thinks he has a shot at a guaranteed contract, he should go. But he does have something to lose if he stays. Injury. Another of year of people poking holes in your game. And you don't know how next year's draft class is going to go.



The problem with the guaranteed contract for a second-round pick is that the money most often is not fully guaranteed and the amount is not that significant, Ted, to the extent that teams can and will cut you in a New York minute. You know how that league works. What, about 15 first rounders are even in the league after three seasons?

Jason really can use next season to get stronger and get better. He now knows what he needs to work on to be a factor on the next level. Let him work on that here instead of maybe doing so while sitting on an NBA bench most of the time. Remember, once the NBA season starts all practices are geared solely toward the scouting reports on next team you're playing, not toward improving skills. That's what the off-season is for.

Now I will say this: should Jason come out now and is not ready to play big minutes on the NBA level next season, I do think/hope his skill set is appealing enough that whoever drafts him can see the upside and will be patient enough to give him time to develop. But I truly believe another season playing college ball will greatly decrease the necessity for that.
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   Posted: 7/3/2021 3:19:45 PM 
FlashGary wrote:
Ted Thompson wrote:
FlashGary wrote:
As an Ohio U. guy, obviously I would want Preston to return for his senior season--especially since we have a team that looks like it really can do some damage on the national scene. But as someone who was involved in many drafts from both the college and NBA sides as a sports writer, past history dictates he should come back and look to improve his drafting position from second round to top 15 in the first round, even looking to get into the lottery-team spots.

Now there have been kids who stayed in school too long. One I remember vividly is point guard Mark Price, who would have been a top 5 pick if he had left Georgia Tech following his junior season in 1984-85. Price stayed, the team didn't do as well as expected, and he dropped to the second round, selected by Dallas at pick No. 25, then traded to the Cavs while the draft continued. Price went on to have an all-star NBA career. So it worked out. But he lost a lot of dollars up front by his choice to return to school.

I see Jason as being in the opposite situation as he has nothing to lose and all to gain by returning to Athens. In his situation, Preston potentially could cost himself a long-term GUARANTEED contract right out of the gate if he comes out too soon. Ponder this: I wonder where Ja Morant would have gotten drafted if he had come out of Murray State after averaging 13 points, 6 assists and 6 rebounds his junior season? What a difference a year made!


IF he thinks he has a shot at a guaranteed contract, he should go. But he does have something to lose if he stays. Injury. Another of year of people poking holes in your game. And you don't know how next year's draft class is going to go.



The problem with the guaranteed contract for a second-round pick is that the money most often is not fully guaranteed and the amount is not that significant, Ted, to the extent that teams can and will cut you in a New York minute. You know how that league works. What, about 15 first rounders are even in the league after three seasons?

Jason really can use next season to get stronger and get better. He now knows what he needs to work on to be a factor on the next level. Let him work on that here instead of maybe doing so while sitting on an NBA bench most of the time. Remember, once the NBA season starts all practices are geared solely toward the scouting reports on next team you're playing, not toward improving skills. That's what the off-season is for.

Now I will say this: should Jason come out now and is not ready to play big minutes on the NBA level next season, I do think/hope his skill set is appealing enough that whoever drafts him can see the upside and will be patient enough to give him time to develop. But I truly believe another season playing college ball will greatly decrease the necessity for that.


The contract would need to be guaranteed. As has been posted elsewhere, some 2nd-round picks are signing guaranteed contracts.

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  Message Not Read  RE: What should Jason Preston do?
   Posted: 7/3/2021 3:47:09 PM 
As has been said and shown in other threads, if he is drafted in the top half of the second round he will most likely receive a 2 year fully guaranteed contract worth about $2 million. We can all speculate and dream that if he returns he will climb into the first round (lottery pick...be real), but he is also as likely to stay in place or drop. He and representatives are in discussions right now with teams, if one says they’re taking him in top 45 he’s gone and should leave. With $2 million in hand. Additionally he will not sit in an NBA bench wishing he stayed in Athens. He will get his million a year and play in the G league and improve his game WAY MORE than if he stays and plays for Boals. That’s not a knock on Boals it’s simply the reality of resources and competition.

Last Edited: 7/3/2021 3:54:12 PM by cc-cat
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   Posted: 7/3/2021 5:05:31 PM 
If JP is in position to get drafted in the second round, right now, I hope he takes it. An opportunity like that might not present itself again. I know everyone seems so certain that his stock will continue to rise, but what if it doesn’t? What if he has a slightly “off year”? This young man should continue to bet on himself. Coach Boals will find the next guy up and continue to win. Go JP. Whoever drafts you will be a team I will follow! (Please let the Chicago Bulls be the one)

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   Posted: 7/3/2021 7:21:00 PM 
Something I have wondered about, but no one will know outside of Jason and maybe a very few close family and friends- If Jason earning his degree was important to his mother- that could come into play when making his decision. I think he is very close though.

Last Edited: 7/3/2021 7:21:48 PM by A-townBound

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   Posted: 7/3/2021 7:29:34 PM 
A-townBound wrote:
Something I have wondered about, but no one will know outside of Jason and maybe a very few close family and friends- If Jason earning his degree was important to his mother- that could come into play when making his decision. I think he is very close though.


I can’t think of a parent who wouldn’t approve of his signing a $2mm NBA contract. It is more significant that ANY degree (a degree he can earn after his playing days are complete, by the way). Do you realize how few people have accomplished getting drafted by a professional sports team???
I love Ohio, too. But This young man has more to do beyond Athens. Coach will have a team ready to play next season.

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   Posted: 7/3/2021 8:43:59 PM 
Whatever is best for him.

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   Posted: 7/3/2021 9:57:51 PM 
Based on everything I've seen via ESPN, twitter, etc. I hope he declares and gets drafted in the second round. Best of luck JP. I'll def by a jersey wherever you end up!
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   Posted: 7/3/2021 9:59:06 PM 
cc-cat wrote:
As has been said and shown in other threads, if he is drafted in the top half of the second round he will most likely receive a 2 year fully guaranteed contract worth about $2 million. We can all speculate and dream that if he returns he will climb into the first round (lottery pick...be real), but he is also as likely to stay in place or drop. He and representatives are in discussions right now with teams, if one says they’re taking him in top 45 he’s gone and should leave. With $2 million in hand. Additionally he will not sit in an NBA bench wishing he stayed in Athens. He will get his million a year and play in the G league and improve his game WAY MORE than if he stays and plays for Boals. That’s not a knock on Boals it’s simply the reality of resources and competition.


I agree with this.

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   Posted: 7/4/2021 1:43:19 AM 
Mr. Preston has served Ohio and the Athens Community well. If he gets drafted, he should jump at the opportunity. If not, another year at Ohio would not hurt. Even if the NBA moves on from him after that, he will still have opportunities to make money overseas, if he so desires.
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   Posted: 7/4/2021 7:09:50 AM 
Im a dinosaur but i always recommend young adults spend more time in college, if possible. Most alumni i know were vastly different people at 22 than 19.

But i was an anonymous kid living it up with what turned iut to be lifelong friends while in Athens. Best years of my life. But, I was a avoiding the real world, not tracking it down.

My heart says stay. My gut says go. I refuse to let my brain-o cast the tiebreaking vote.

Good luck Mr Preston, we will all be rooting for you!
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   Posted: 7/4/2021 4:50:16 PM 
Right or wrong, younger players seem to get some benefit when being evaluated by NBA teams. There's not too many seniors getting drafted anymore.

If JP is confident in being drafted I would leave and take my chances of getting developed and paid by a team that wants me and also getting closer to being a free agent and to an even bigger payday. Worst case is he gets paid for 2 years by a team, and if it doesn't work out on the NBA he can then always fall back on a lucrative contract in Europe instead.
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   Posted: 7/5/2021 7:19:34 AM 
Of course we have no idea what he should do because we don’t know what he knows or he thinks he knows. I don’t think any of us are NBA scouts either, and those guys miss on a lot of players. This thread really seems to be a lot about what we want him to or what we would do if we were in his shoes which we aren’t. I wish him the best in his future endeavors whatever he decides.
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   Posted: 7/5/2021 7:25:31 AM 
I often wonder WWJPD?
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   Posted: 7/5/2021 12:33:27 PM 
Maddog13 wrote:
Mr. Preston has served Ohio and the Athens Community well. If he gets drafted, he should jump at the opportunity. If not, another year at Ohio would not hurt. Even if the NBA moves on from him after that, he will still have opportunities to make money overseas, if he so desires.


Jason Preston has served Ohio and the Athens community very well. We need to support him in anyway that we can. That being said, we believe that he should be in the top 40, most mock drafts and scouts don’t have in in the top 40. He should come back and get a nice NIL contract an shoot 40% from 3 and 80% from the line and add some muscle. Hercy Miller just got a 2 million dollar deal from Tennessee State, Preston should get a nice chunk. He can also work his self into the first round and get more guaranteed money next year.

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   Posted: 7/5/2021 7:31:43 PM 
allen wrote:
Maddog13 wrote:
Mr. Preston has served Ohio and the Athens Community well. If he gets drafted, he should jump at the opportunity. If not, another year at Ohio would not hurt. Even if the NBA moves on from him after that, he will still have opportunities to make money overseas, if he so desires.


Jason Preston has served Ohio and the Athens community very well. We need to support him in anyway that we can. That being said, we believe that he should be in the top 40, most mock drafts and scouts don’t have in in the top 40. He should come back and get a nice NIL contract an shoot 40% from 3 and 80% from the line and add some muscle. Hercy Miller just got a 2 million dollar deal from Tennessee State, Preston should get a nice chunk. He can also work his self into the first round and get more guaranteed money next year.


I agree with Allen here if he's not top 40....then come back. I mean...I have to believe JP can make at least make 5-10K per month with NIL money. That will certainly help big time....have a great year and go in the first round next year. I'm a little surprised this is going to the midnight hour with his decision. The NIL situation might actually help him in wanting to stay for one more year.


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   Posted: 7/5/2021 10:33:39 PM 
Walter Luckett, 2nd round, 27th overall.

How did that work out coming out early? Sure he had a knee issue. Flash may wanna comment on those times.

If JP doesn't come back, as much as I want him to succeed, I put him overseas in 2-3 years.

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   Posted: 7/6/2021 12:24:50 AM 
allen wrote:
Hercy Miller just got a 2 million dollar deal from Tennessee State


Miller didn't get a red cent from TSU. That's not the kind of school that has extra money to throw around. He's the son of a famous rapper and signed a $2 million deal to become a brand ambassador for Web Apps America, a tech company specializing in web, mobile and software solutions.

With millions of dollars in the bank as a teenager, Miller stated that he'll be putting his newfound money back into the community -- though he will treat himself to a new Tesla as well.
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   Posted: 7/6/2021 10:08:32 AM 
greencat wrote:
allen wrote:
Hercy Miller just got a 2 million dollar deal from Tennessee State


Miller didn't get a red cent from TSU. That's not the kind of school that has extra money to throw around. He's the son of a famous rapper and signed a $2 million deal to become a brand ambassador for Web Apps America, a tech company specializing in web, mobile and software solutions.

With millions of dollars in the bank as a teenager, Miller stated that he'll be putting his newfound money back into the community -- though he will treat himself to a new Tesla as well.



With Ohio going to the tournament and JP’s story, he will be able to sign a hefty NIL deal, Miller is going to Tennessee state and yes his father is a celebrity, but JP can bring in big revenues as well.

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   Posted: 7/6/2021 10:14:39 AM 
What would BobcatAttack.com offer for a deal with JP?
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   Posted: 7/6/2021 10:38:17 AM 
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What would BobcatAttack.com offer for a deal with JP?


We should get with someone strong in marketing and count the times and views that JP’s story has generated and partner him with someone has overcame and sell his story to the highest bidder. GoBobcats, Bobcatattack is great, thanks for everything

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   Posted: 7/6/2021 10:44:43 AM 
Many accounts suggest Preston's combine performance improved his status into a top-40 pick. Ten or more years ago, you could make a solid argument he should stay at Ohio with his draft range. Now, though, it seems almost certain, even if he goes later than that, he will get a couple million dollars guaranteed (plus an NBA opportunity that might not be there later). That's pretty hard to pass up. He could improve his draft stock and potential earnings if he stays another year, but that's a toss-up. It's just as likely his status in the draft would drop, and he could miss out on guaranteed money altogether. If he proves himself in a couple years with an NBA team, he'll end up getting more money anyway, and by staying in the draft, he'll be getting it sooner. The chance to earn a little bit of money in college now is nice, but it's not going to be anything close to NBA money (not to mention the guaranteed opportunity he seems to have right now). I'd love for him to stay at Ohio, but I don't see it happening.
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   Posted: 7/6/2021 11:59:41 PM 
mid70sbobcat wrote:
Walter Luckett, 2nd round, 27th overall.

How did that work out coming out early? Sure he had a knee issue. Flash may wanna comment on those times.

If JP doesn't come back, as much as I want him to succeed, I put him overseas in 2-3 years.


Someone called for Flash? Is that like calling for Batman? The Walter Luckett situation was very different than the situation that Jason Preston is confronted with. For starters, Walter was a two-time MAC Player of the Year, who averaged 25 his junior season. He was about as good as he was gonna get in college. His strengths were his strengths and his weaknesses probably were gonna remain his weaknesses. Here's what he had to take into consideration: Coach Jim Snyder had retired; highly-recruited freshmen Ulice Payne and Larry Slappy had transferred the season before; all-MAC-caliber players Bill Brown and George Green had played their senior season.

The prospects for the next season weren't promising. There was a good chance that opponents would be able to gang up on Walter and his play could suffer. I thought he should leave.

What happened with the Pistons is another story for another time. Wrong team, wrong situation--especially after they traded for veteran guards Archie Clark and Kevin Porter.

As for Jason Preston, I'm under the firm belief that you judge a situation by how much interest the other party shows in you. For instance, do you think Ben-Rod would be a Bobcat if Ohio State and Xavier had made him a recruiting priority? Who showed him the love? Ohio and coach Boals.

Only half of the first-round NBA draftees will be on an NBA roster after three seasons. It's extremely hard to play and stay in the league. Consider this: If I ask you to name MAC players in the NFL, you probably can name 10 without thinking. Can you name five MAC players currently in the NBA?

The bottom line is if the NBA really likes you, really wants you, they'll show you the love--and then the money--by making you one of 30 first-round draft picks. If you don't think Jason is worthy of a pick like that, what you're really saying is he's not ready for the league. That's not a crime. He has another year available to hone his skills, get bigger and stronger, increase his draft position, and have a heck of a lot of fun helping the Bobcats make a run at greatness this coming season.
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