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My Facebook Memories from just a few years ago show nice crowds, student sections and excitement. I'm not debating whether they were great people who had bad luck or whatever, because that may all be 100% true...but the previous administration sucked the life out of the Convo, the student section, this chat room--everywhere! For example, at the beginning I couldn't find a single seat in my section to add and within a couple years my section had been gutted with nothing but vacancy's. Diehards we're not only not attending away games, but also uncharacteristically skipping home games. People (like me) who contributed regularly on here going silent, no trips to Cleveland and the bubble just popped. And while you could blame it on fickle fans, or "attendance is down everywhere," there was just a lack of a vibe then and just a way better vibe now (though no doubt, ending the season as it did helps immensely). I hope I'm not speaking prematurely, but I'm thinking JB has the "it" factor that will bring fans/students back and put an entertaining product on the floor. So yes Jeff, it's nice to see this board, which went dead, start to have some vibrance again. I hope we're back on the upswing and even some down years, will keep us engaged. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,343 Status: Offline     RE: Vulture Count    Posted: 4/6/2021 9:57:24 AM  Chicken George wrote: I hope I'm not speaking prematurely, but I'm thinking JB has the "it" factor that will bring fans/students back and put an entertaining product on the floor. George, I agree with this, and hope, hope, hope Jeff Boals is around for several more years to revive that feeling again. Back to Top . General User Member Since: 2/3/2005 Post Count: 2,969 Status: Offline     RE: Vulture Count    Posted: 4/6/2021 12:13:34 PM  Society and the internet changed drastically between 2012 and 2021. Message boards died and young adults only made time for premier events. If it isn’t for a championship or isn’t at the highest level, they are not interested. It’s why we can beat conference-leading Toledo in December and no one on campus cares and when we win an NCAA tournament game those same people are dancing on Court Street. There is no middle class. There is no well drink. It all has to be top shelf or it’s beneath everybody. No judgment here, it’s just how everybody’s hectic life and tiny attention spans now work. I don’t see those trends reversing. To make money and fill an arena, you must be nationally relevant or you’re in trouble. Back to Top Bobcat Love's Sense of Shame General User Member Since: 7/30/2010 Post Count: 3,488 Status: Online     RE: Vulture Count    Posted: 4/6/2021 12:46:40 PM  . wrote: Society and the internet changed drastically between 2012 and 2021. Message boards died and young adults only made time for premier events. If it isn’t for a championship or isn’t at the highest level, they are not interested. It’s why we can beat conference-leading Toledo in December and no one on campus cares and when we win an NCAA tournament game those same people are dancing on Court Street. There is no middle class. There is no well drink. It all has to be top shelf or it’s beneath everybody. No judgment here, it’s just how everybody’s hectic life and tiny attention spans now work. I don’t see those trends reversing. To make money and fill an arena, you must be nationally relevant or you’re in trouble. I'm not sure it's so much a question of "top class" or it's beneath people. It's more that the entire entertainment landscape changed drastically in the period you referenced. Niche interests became fully accessible, on demand. Any pro basketball game, in any market, became fully accessible. Every movie, every tv show, fully accessible. The competition for eye balls became more difficult to win. Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,102 Status: Offline     RE: Vulture Count    Posted: 4/6/2021 3:47:09 PM  I agree with the last two posts. I think another factor is lack of interest in or loyalty to institutions. When I was an undergrad, I attended basketball games because I thought it was a cool way to show my support for my university. Today, entertainment is much more individualistic. Most undergrads I know have little if any sense of loyalty to their university. How do we increase interest under these conditions? Back to Top shabamon General User Member Since: 11/17/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 6,434 Status: Offline     RE: Vulture Count    Posted: 4/6/2021 4:36:06 PM  . wrote: Society and the internet changed drastically between 2012 and 2021. Message boards died and young adults only made time for premier events. If it isn’t for a championship or isn’t at the highest level, they are not interested. It’s why we can beat conference-leading Toledo in December and no one on campus cares and when we win an NCAA tournament game those same people are dancing on Court Street. There is no middle class. There is no well drink. It all has to be top shelf or it’s beneath everybody. No judgment here, it’s just how everybody’s hectic life and tiny attention spans now work. I don’t see those trends reversing. To make money and fill an arena, you must be nationally relevant or you’re in trouble. There was already a degree of truth to this in the mid 2000s when I was a student. 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