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I crunched the numbers on our 120 minutes of play: Had lead - 116 Min Led by 10+ - 82 Min Led by 15+ - 52 Min We led Kent by 28 with 8 to go We led Toledo by 18 with 8 to go We led Buffalo by 19 with 8 to go What a joy to experience without having any heart attacks. A stark contrast to 05, 10, & 12. You could break it down deeper to really show the complete dominance. All 4 games featured Ohio blatantly running out the shot clock and giving up easy 2s to make the final look closer. All this playing the 1,2, & 4 seeds...the hardest draw possible. Cheers! Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,102 Status: Offline     RE: Tournament Dominance    Posted: 3/14/2021 1:09:25 AM  Agree! Back to Top Ziegler79 General User Member Since: 2/17/2006 Post Count: 84 Status: Offline     RE: Tournament Dominance    Posted: 3/14/2021 3:31:55 AM  No I can’t but I still got nervous in the second half of the last two games somehow! Back to Top OUVan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Bethesda, MD Post Count: 5,580 Status: Offline     RE: Tournament Dominance    Posted: 3/14/2021 8:38:35 AM  Andrew Ruck wrote: Can you remember a more dominant run in MAC tourney history? I crunched the numbers on our 120 minutes of play: Had lead - 116 Min Led by 10+ - 82 Min Led by 15+ - 52 Min We led Kent by 28 with 8 to go We led Toledo by 18 with 8 to go We led Buffalo by 19 with 8 to go What a joy to experience without having any heart attacks. A stark contrast to 05, 10, & 12. You could break it down deeper to really show the complete dominance. All 4 games featured Ohio blatantly running out the shot clock and giving up easy 2s to make the final look closer. All this playing the 1,2, & 4 seeds...the hardest draw possible. Cheers! It wasn't just the tournament. It was every game, save one, after the February shutdown including #3 seed Akron. The team really is taking on Jeff Boals' personality and Preston and Vander Plas are the perfect leaders to do that. Back to Top Pete Chouteau General User Member Since: 11/17/2004 Location: You Can't See Me Post Count: 1,625 Status: Offline     RE: Tournament Dominance    Posted: 3/14/2021 9:10:59 AM  2002 Kent might be. Back to Top oldkatz General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Post Count: 1,424 Status: Offline     RE: Tournament Dominance    Posted: 3/14/2021 9:55:29 AM  Specially pleasing (for me) was how dominant the Cats were in the title game, given what jerks the Bulls were in the Convo during their 20 point win. Karma, baby! "All my inside sources tell me I have no inside sources." Salvatore "money bucks" Mafiosiano. Back to Top LuckySparrow General User Member Since: 10/15/2012 Location: Illinois Post Count: 1,728 Status: Offline     RE: Tournament Dominance    Posted: 3/14/2021 10:25:13 AM  This tournament run is what dreams are made of, we were an absolute buzzsaw. Let's keep it rolling! What a day at the Convo.....Wow! Back to Top bobcatsquared General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 5,210 Status: Offline     RE: Tournament Dominance    Posted: 3/14/2021 10:33:53 AM  oldkatz wrote: Specially pleasing (for me) was how dominant the Cats were in the title game, given what jerks the Bulls were in the Convo during their 20 point win. Karma, baby! I haven't forgotten that either, oldkatz. It's something I never noticed on TV but stood out when watching the game from inside the Convo. There was nothing (chairs, tables, etc...) separating the two teams except about 30 feet of open space. The UB bench players showed no class from where they were standing, directing it directly at the Ohio bench. Nothing Ohio could do, being destroyed on the floor that Saturday, except wait to turn the tables on the court in Cleveland when it mattered most. Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,561 Status: Offline     RE: Tournament Dominance    Posted: 3/14/2021 10:42:16 AM  Not sweating out the final moments of any of those games was very weird. I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,808 Status: Offline     RE: Tournament Dominance    Posted: 3/14/2021 11:04:57 AM  bobcatsquared wrote: oldkatz wrote: Specially pleasing (for me) was how dominant the Cats were in the title game, given what jerks the Bulls were in the Convo during their 20 point win. Karma, baby! I haven't forgotten that either, oldkatz. It's something I never noticed on TV but stood out when watching the game from inside the Convo. There was nothing (chairs, tables, etc...) separating the two teams except about 30 feet of open space. The UB bench players showed no class from where they were standing, directing it directly at the Ohio bench. Nothing Ohio could do, being destroyed on the floor that Saturday, except wait to turn the tables on the court in Cleveland when it mattered most. Yes, they were quite the assholes that day! Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,808 Status: Offline     RE: Tournament Dominance    Posted: 3/14/2021 11:06:04 AM  oldkatz wrote: Specially pleasing (for me) was how dominant the Cats were in the title game, given what jerks the Bulls were in the Convo during their 20 point win. Karma, baby! Same with the dismantling of Kent in the first game. Kent and their behavior starting with their pigmy head coach. Back to Top CatsUp General User Member Since: 4/15/2019 Post Count: 756 Status: Offline     RE: Tournament Dominance    Posted: 3/14/2021 11:10:16 AM  BillyTheCat wrote: bobcatsquared wrote: oldkatz wrote: Specially pleasing (for me) was how dominant the Cats were in the title game, given what jerks the Bulls were in the Convo during their 20 point win. Karma, baby! I haven't forgotten that either, oldkatz. It's something I never noticed on TV but stood out when watching the game from inside the Convo. There was nothing (chairs, tables, etc...) separating the two teams except about 30 feet of open space. The UB bench players showed no class from where they were standing, directing it directly at the Ohio bench. Nothing Ohio could do, being destroyed on the floor that Saturday, except wait to turn the tables on the court in Cleveland when it mattered most. Yes, they were quite the assholes that day! From what you folks are saying I can’t help but wonder if Jeff had a “special pep talk” for his team that we will never see? ;) Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 9,808 Status: Offline     RE: Tournament Dominance    Posted: 3/14/2021 11:12:34 AM  CatsUp wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: bobcatsquared wrote: oldkatz wrote: Specially pleasing (for me) was how dominant the Cats were in the title game, given what jerks the Bulls were in the Convo during their 20 point win. Karma, baby! I haven't forgotten that either, oldkatz. It's something I never noticed on TV but stood out when watching the game from inside the Convo. There was nothing (chairs, tables, etc...) separating the two teams except about 30 feet of open space. The UB bench players showed no class from where they were standing, directing it directly at the Ohio bench. Nothing Ohio could do, being destroyed on the floor that Saturday, except wait to turn the tables on the court in Cleveland when it mattered most. Yes, they were quite the assholes that day! From what you folks are saying I can’t help but wonder if Jeff had a “special pep talk” for his team that we will never see? ;) Jeff didn’t need one, these kids took it serious all on their own, one of the things Coach speaks highly on, their character. Last Edited: 3/14/2021 11:14:13 AM by BillyTheCat Back to Top JSF General User Member Since: 1/29/2005 Location: Houston, TX Post Count: 6,430 Status: Offline     RE: Tournament Dominance    Posted: 3/14/2021 1:13:00 PM  It's rare for a team to be able to go through a tournament and not feel threatened at any time. Even the Gonzagas of the world will run across a team pushing them. "Loyalty to a hometown or city is fleeting and interchangeable, but college is a stamp of identity."- Kyle Whelliston, One Beautiful Season. My blog about depression and mental illness: https://bit.ly/3buGXH8 Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,341 Status: Offline     RE: Tournament Dominance    Posted: 3/14/2021 2:27:52 PM  Pete Chouteau wrote: 2002 Kent might be. They won by 12, 25 and 11 Back to Top GraffZ06 General User Member Since: 1/5/2005 Location: Dayton, OH Post Count: 2,029 Status: Offline     RE: Tournament Dominance    Posted: 3/14/2021 5:33:13 PM  colobobcat66 wrote: Pete Chouteau wrote: 2002 Kent might be. They won by 12, 25 and 11 Good call on 2002 Kent St. We won by 22, 7 and 15 - so their margin of victory bested ours 48 to 44. That Kent squad also got a #10 seed and wound up in the Elite 8. Back to Top bobcat 2000 General User Member Since: 1/21/2006 Post Count: 194 Status: Offline     RE: Tournament Dominance    Posted: 3/14/2021 7:16:04 PM  Now this team is seeded 13 and playing Virginia. The bracket they drew gives them a good shot at making sweet sixteen. Virginia will be hard but nowhere near as bad as it could've been. If they win creighton could be their next opponent. They may have to play Gonzaga who would put it all over them. No matter what Jeff boals has done well. I wonder if some larger schools will make offers after the tourney ends. I wonder if he'll stay should that happen. That was the good thing about Larry hunter, he would've stayed on no matter what Back to Top shabamon General User Member Since: 11/17/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 6,434 Status: Offline     RE: Tournament Dominance    Posted: 3/14/2021 7:19:39 PM  bobcat 2000 wrote: Now this team is seeded 13 and playing Virginia. The bracket they drew gives them a good shot at making sweet sixteen. Virginia will be hard but nowhere near as bad as it could've been. If they win creighton could be their next opponent. They may have to play Gonzaga who would put it all over them. No matter what Jeff boals has done well. I wonder if some larger schools will make offers after the tourney ends. I wonder if he'll stay should that happen. That was the good thing about Larry hunter, he would've stayed on no matter what Are you Magic Johnson? Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,102 Status: Offline     RE: Tournament Dominance    Posted: 3/14/2021 10:59:33 PM  bobcatsquared wrote: oldkatz wrote: Specially pleasing (for me) was how dominant the Cats were in the title game, given what jerks the Bulls were in the Convo during their 20 point win. Karma, baby! I haven't forgotten that either, oldkatz. It's something I never noticed on TV but stood out when watching the game from inside the Convo. There was nothing (chairs, tables, etc...) separating the two teams except about 30 feet of open space. The UB bench players showed no class from where they were standing, directing it directly at the Ohio bench. Nothing Ohio could do, being destroyed on the floor that Saturday, except wait to turn the tables on the court in Cleveland when it mattered most. Yep...I was there the day they blew us out in Athens, and their behavior was embarrassing. Incessant trash talking. Their #5, a little used sub, was even trying to pick fights toward the end of the game. I guess that's why Boeheim says he won't play them again. I was at RMFH last night, and I didn't notice a single Bull acknowledging the Cats after the game was over. The revenge tour was complete with victories over Kent, Toledo and Buffalo in Cleveland. Back to Top Andrew Ruck General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,882 Status: Offline     RE: Tournament Dominance    Posted: 3/15/2021 10:43:53 AM  GraffZ06 wrote: colobobcat66 wrote: Pete Chouteau wrote: 2002 Kent might be. They won by 12, 25 and 11 Good call on 2002 Kent St. We won by 22, 7 and 15 - so their margin of victory bested ours 48 to 44. That Kent squad also got a #10 seed and wound up in the Elite 8. Good call on Kent and also a great indication of how this type of dominance can play out in the NCAA tourney. I was unable to find play by play info of the Kent games but I did see box scores and they were tied at the half in both the quarterinals and the Championship. I suspect if we had the data it would show they were pressed deeper into the 2nd half than we ever were. Andrew Ruck B.B.A. 2003 Back to Top Victory General User Member Since: 3/10/2012 Post Count: 2,197 Status: Offline     RE: Tournament Dominance    Posted: 3/15/2021 11:44:26 AM  GraffZ06 wrote: colobobcat66 wrote: Pete Chouteau wrote: 2002 Kent might be. They won by 12, 25 and 11 Good call on 2002 Kent St. We won by 22, 7 and 15 - so their margin of victory bested ours 48 to 44. That Kent squad also got a #10 seed and wound up in the Elite 8. I don't think that we are ever going to find game control numbers from 2002 but I think that there was a good chance that Ohio's was higher. We put out foot on everyone's throat at the beginning of each game and let the margins dwindle playing more "not to lose" in the final 15 minutes. Kent has less than a 1% chance to win during the last 13 minutes of the game. Toledo only lost by 7 but ESPN gave them only about a 12% chance at the half had only a 1 or 2 percent chance to win for most of second half. Buffalo's chances were in the single digits after the first 15 minutes through the rest of the game. I don't remember enough about how Kent's games went to begin to compare. 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