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Bowling Green (2nd) 2. Buffalo (3rd) 3. Kent State (4th) 4. Miami (6th) 5. Akron (1st) 6. Ohio (5th) West 1. Toledo (3rd) 2. Northern Illinois (Tied for 1st, lost tiebreaker) 3. Ball State (Tied for 1st, won tiebreaker) 4. Central Michigan (4th) 5. Western Michigan (tied for 5th) 6. Eastern Michigan (tied for 5th) They were 0-6 in the East, 2-4 in the West. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,074 Status: Offline     RE: Preseason poll vs reality    Posted: 3/8/2020 9:34:09 AM  Pataskala wrote: Here's the preseason MAC coaches poll with each team's actual finish in parenthesis: East 1. Bowling Green (2nd) 2. Buffalo (3rd) 3. Kent State (4th) 4. Miami (6th) 5. Akron (1st) 6. Ohio (5th) West 1. Toledo (3rd) 2. Northern Illinois (Tied for 1st, lost tiebreaker) 3. Ball State (Tied for 1st, won tiebreaker) 4. Central Michigan (4th) 5. Western Michigan (tied for 5th) 6. Eastern Michigan (tied for 5th) They were 0-6 in the East, 2-4 in the West. Other than Akron, I would say they were pretty accurate relatively speaking. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,168 Status: Offline     RE: Preseason poll vs reality    Posted: 3/8/2020 12:06:43 PM  Alan Swank wrote: Pataskala wrote: Here's the preseason MAC coaches poll with each team's actual finish in parenthesis: East 1. Bowling Green (2nd) 2. Buffalo (3rd) 3. Kent State (4th) 4. Miami (6th) 5. Akron (1st) 6. Ohio (5th) West 1. Toledo (3rd) 2. Northern Illinois (Tied for 1st, lost tiebreaker) 3. Ball State (Tied for 1st, won tiebreaker) 4. Central Michigan (4th) 5. Western Michigan (tied for 5th) 6. Eastern Michigan (tied for 5th) They were 0-6 in the East, 2-4 in the West. Other than Akron, I would say they were pretty accurate relatively speaking. It seems nearly every year there's a school like Akron that greatly defies expectations. This is even more true, I think, in MAC football predictions, but is true often in basketball as well. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,309 Status: Offline     RE: Preseason poll vs reality    Posted: 3/8/2020 6:46:58 PM  Alan Swank wrote: Pataskala wrote: Here's the preseason MAC coaches poll with each team's actual finish in parenthesis: East 1. Bowling Green (2nd) 2. Buffalo (3rd) 3. Kent State (4th) 4. Miami (6th) 5. Akron (1st) 6. Ohio (5th) West 1. Toledo (3rd) 2. Northern Illinois (Tied for 1st, lost tiebreaker) 3. Ball State (Tied for 1st, won tiebreaker) 4. Central Michigan (4th) 5. Western Michigan (tied for 5th) 6. Eastern Michigan (tied for 5th) They were 0-6 in the East, 2-4 in the West. Other than Akron, I would say they were pretty accurate relatively speaking. I'd say they were pretty far off with Toledo as well. Not only did Toledo finish third instead of first, they were three games behind the co-leaders and didn't even have a .500 season in the MAC. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top GraffZ06 General User Member Since: 1/5/2005 Location: Dayton, OH Post Count: 2,029 Status: Offline     RE: Preseason poll vs reality    Posted: 3/9/2020 8:08:13 AM  It's probably more accurate to look at how many points teams got across the whole league rather than the two divisions, as if they were seeding for the MAC tournament. Based on pre-season polls they were expected to finish: https://getsomemaction.com/news/2019/10/30/mac-announces-... 1) Bowling Green (69) 2) Toledo (69) 3) Buffalo (58) 4) N Illinois (52) 5) Ball St (51) 6) Kent St (43) 7) C Michigan (41) 8) Miami (37) 9) Akron (33) 10) W Michigan (23) 11) E Michigan (16) 12) Ohio (12) Comparing that to reality, with the amount they missed by in parenthesis: 1) Akron (+8) 2) Bowling Green (-1) 3) Ball St (+2) 4) N Illinois (0) 5) Buffalo (-2) 6) Kent St (0) 7) Toledo (-5) 8) Ohio (+4) 9) C Michigan (-2) 10) W Michigan (0) 11) E Michigan (0) 12) Miami (-4) I don't think missing by up to +/-2 is very big at all. So really they just missed: Akron +8 and Ohio +4 on the positive side, and Toledo -5 and Miami -4 on the negative side. Back to Top CatsUp General User Member Since: 4/15/2019 Post Count: 756 Status: Offline     RE: Preseason poll vs reality    Posted: 3/9/2020 8:21:56 AM  GraffZ06 wrote: It's probably more accurate to look at how many points teams got across the whole league rather than the two divisions, as if they were seeding for the MAC tournament. Based on pre-season polls they were expected to finish: https://getsomemaction.com/news/2019/10/30/mac-announces-... 1) Bowling Green (69) 2) Toledo (69) 3) Buffalo (58) 4) N Illinois (52) 5) Ball St (51) 6) Kent St (43) 7) C Michigan (41) 8) Miami (37) 9) Akron (33) 10) W Michigan (23) 11) E Michigan (16) 12) Ohio (12) Comparing that to reality, with the amount they missed by in parenthesis: 1) Akron (+8) 2) Bowling Green (-1) 3) Ball St (+2) 4) N Illinois (0) 5) Buffalo (-2) 6) Kent St (0) 7) Toledo (-5) 8) Ohio (+4) 9) C Michigan (-2) 10) W Michigan (0) 11) E Michigan (0) 12) Miami (-4) I don't think missing by up to +/-2 is very big at all. So really they just missed: Akron +8 and Ohio +4 on the positive side, and Toledo -5 and Miami -4 on the negative side. Nice, concise analysis GraffZ. Well done! Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,343 Status: Offline     RE: Preseason poll vs reality    Posted: 3/9/2020 9:44:06 AM  GraffZ06 wrote: It's probably more accurate to look at how many points teams got across the whole league rather than the two divisions, as if they were seeding for the MAC tournament. Based on pre-season polls they were expected to finish: https://getsomemaction.com/news/2019/10/30/mac-announces-... 1) Bowling Green (69) 2) Toledo (69) 3) Buffalo (58) 4) N Illinois (52) 5) Ball St (51) 6) Kent St (43) 7) C Michigan (41) 8) Miami (37) 9) Akron (33) 10) W Michigan (23) 11) E Michigan (16) 12) Ohio (12) Comparing that to reality, with the amount they missed by in parenthesis: 1) Akron (+8) 2) Bowling Green (-1) 3) Ball St (+2) 4) N Illinois (0) 5) Buffalo (-2) 6) Kent St (0) 7) Toledo (-5) 8) Ohio (+4) 9) C Michigan (-2) 10) W Michigan (0) 11) E Michigan (0) 12) Miami (-4) I don't think missing by up to +/-2 is very big at all. So really they just missed: Akron +8 and Ohio +4 on the positive side, and Toledo -5 and Miami -4 on the negative side. I like the analysis. I remember finding how Akron and Miami were picked to be a little interesting. Miami is the cellar dweller until the prove otherwise, and you had to think Akron was going to be better than them. 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