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The last I heard, which was a while back, he was trying to come back and he was healing from his injury but it wasn't clear if he'd have the medical OK to return to competition. I also recall there was some speculation (no actual facts) that his return might be conditional on Saul being retained, as he was said to be very loyal to Saul. So what have you heard? The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top DJCooperBurnerAccount General User Member Since: 2/4/2019 Post Count: 143 Status: Offline     RE: Dartis?    Posted: 4/5/2019 4:53:14 AM  What I’ve heard from a reliable source: he liked Saul as a person but not coach. His loyalty is to Ohio University. He hasn’t practiced but he’s doing everything he can to play next year. Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,561 Status: Offline     RE: Dartis?    Posted: 4/5/2019 5:26:38 AM  The prospect of getting Dartis back feels like glimmer of hope for our chances next year I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top Bobcat1998 General User Member Since: 11/7/2012 Post Count: 2,307 Status: Offline     RE: Dartis?    Posted: 4/5/2019 7:08:38 AM  The Optimist wrote: The prospect of getting Dartis back feels like glimmer of hope for our chances next year A guard duo of a healthy Darty and a yesr older Preston would be a nice start for Boals. Throw in a stretch like BVP and it is a trio that is solid in the MAC. Would we win a MAC title with just them? No, but not a bad trio. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,070 Status: Offline     RE: Dartis?    Posted: 4/5/2019 9:36:30 AM  DJCooperBurnerAccount wrote: His loyalty is to Ohio University. This is the kind of attitude I wish more student-athletes would strive for. Pick a school, not a coach. Jordy may be one of my favorite players of all-time for that reason alone. Back to Top bobcatsquared General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 5,212 Status: Online     RE: Dartis?    Posted: 4/5/2019 10:45:59 AM  Everything I've been told since November from close friends to family to high school coach is that Jordie loves the campus and the university and that he was more likely to stay for his final year if coach was let go rather than returning for another year. Nothing I've heard recently changes that. He'll be back for a fifth season in 2019-20. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,169 Status: Offline     RE: Dartis?    Posted: 4/5/2019 11:03:19 AM  GoCats105 wrote: DJCooperBurnerAccount wrote: His loyalty is to Ohio University. This is the kind of attitude I wish more student-athletes would strive for. Pick a school, not a coach. Jordy may be one of my favorite players of all-time for that reason alone. +1 And thanks for everyone's input. It gives me a better sense of the situation. Here's hoping to see Dartis back in green and white for next basketball season. I completely agree that one's loyalty should be to the school first and the coach second, but I realize that that's not always the way it actually works. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top cc-cat General User Member Since: 4/5/2006 Location: matthews, NC Post Count: 3,888 Status: Offline     RE: Dartis?    Posted: 4/5/2019 11:14:40 AM  GoCats105 wrote: DJCooperBurnerAccount wrote: His loyalty is to Ohio University. This is the kind of attitude I wish more student-athletes would strive for. Pick a school, not a coach. Jordy may be one of my favorite players of all-time for that reason alone. Making all scholarships 4 years (or 5 to graduate) rather than renewable at the sole discretion of the coach and university would be a solid step to assuring allegiance, That way if a coach leaves, players do not feel they have e lost a needed ally. Last Edited: 4/5/2019 11:15:40 AM by cc-cat Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,943 Status: Offline     RE: Dartis?    Posted: 4/5/2019 11:20:13 AM  DJCooperBurnerAccount wrote: What I’ve heard from a reliable source: he liked Saul as a person but not coach. His loyalty is to Ohio University. He hasn’t practiced but he’s doing everything he can to play next year. Heard the same through a secondary (though credible) source. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,169 Status: Offline     RE: Dartis?    Posted: 4/5/2019 12:00:18 PM  cc-cat wrote: GoCats105 wrote: DJCooperBurnerAccount wrote: His loyalty is to Ohio University. This is the kind of attitude I wish more student-athletes would strive for. Pick a school, not a coach. Jordy may be one of my favorite players of all-time for that reason alone. Making all scholarships 4 years (or 5 to graduate) rather than renewable at the sole discretion of the coach and university would be a solid step to assuring allegiance, That way if a coach leaves, players do not feel they have e lost a needed ally. I would concur with this thought. The obligation should go both ways. A scholarship (actually a financial aid package) should only be revocable for a breech of the student code of conduct (which should be in writing) or failure to maintain adequate grades, which bar could be set higher than NCAA standards by the institution and/or conference. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,547 Status: Offline     RE: Dartis?    Posted: 4/5/2019 12:39:00 PM  I agree with the concept of a 4 year scholarship. But I think it really needs to be more both ways then OCF said. If a school makes a 4 year commitment,so should the student. That would mean that,if a student leaves early,without a degree ,except under pre-specified criteria,his scholarship is locked up until his class graduates. That would,among other things ,kill one and dones and get in true student athletes. I know the NCAA will never consider it. Got to get those March Madness ratings. But one can hope. Back to Top bobcatsquared General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 5,212 Status: Online     RE: Dartis?    Posted: 4/5/2019 1:57:54 PM  Unfortunately, or fortunately, the NCAA is becoming more and more relaxed with players transferring and becoming immediately eligible. And I think this is going to hit mid majors harder than schools from the major conferences. Back to Top brucecuth General User Member Since: 12/21/2004 Post Count: 1,809 Status: Offline     RE: Dartis?    Posted: 4/5/2019 9:04:47 PM  bobcatsquared wrote: Unfortunately, or fortunately, the NCAA is becoming more and more relaxed with players transferring and becoming immediately eligible. And I think this is going to hit mid majors harder than schools from the major conferences. The good news is, according to the NYTimes, graduate transfer rules may soon be toughened. If a kid graduate transfers to Ohio St., for example for the 19-20 school year, plays that year, but does not get his graduate degree by the end of the school year, Ohio St. would lose a scholarship for a year. I'm of two minds here. On the surface, I like this proposal. But we all talk about how kids are supposed to graduate. Once he graduates, it can be argued he has done what he came to school to do, and should be free to move on without penalty. As I understand it, this proposal would only affect W & M basketball, and football. Back to Top bobcatsquared General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 5,212 Status: Online     RE: Dartis?    Posted: 4/5/2019 9:39:19 PM  brucecuth wrote: As I understand it, this proposal would only affect W & M basketball, and football. Wow. I feel bad for William & Mary basketball and football. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,169 Status: Offline     RE: Dartis?    Posted: 4/5/2019 10:17:51 PM  brucecuth, I'm of a single mind about this proposal. I like it. Graduating from graduate school is a whole separate thing from obtaining your undergraduate degree. If you have your bachelor's degree in hand, and you do a graduate transfer, you need to graduate from the school with your master's or the whole thing is a sham, which I'm afraid it has been in certain cases in the recent pass. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,343 Status: Offline     RE: Dartis?    Posted: 4/6/2019 10:34:57 AM  bobcatsquared wrote: brucecuth wrote: As I understand it, this proposal would only affect W & M basketball, and football. Wow. I feel bad for William & Mary basketball and football. Well played. :-) Back to Top rpbobcat General User Member Since: 4/28/2006 Location: Rochelle Park, NJ Post Count: 3,547 Status: Offline     RE: Dartis?    Posted: 4/6/2019 12:33:32 PM  brucecuth wrote: The good news is, according to the NYTimes, graduate transfer rules may soon be toughened. If a kid graduate transfers to Ohio St., for example for the 19-20 school year, plays that year, but does not get his graduate degree by the end of the school year, Ohio St. would lose a scholarship for a year. It would seem that,depending on the degree,completing an MA/MS in one year,especially with a thesis would be tough. I could see giving 2 years before losing a scholarship. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,169 Status: Offline     RE: Dartis?    Posted: 4/6/2019 1:13:32 PM  rpbobcat wrote: brucecuth wrote: The good news is, according to the NYTimes, graduate transfer rules may soon be toughened. If a kid graduate transfers to Ohio St., for example for the 19-20 school year, plays that year, but does not get his graduate degree by the end of the school year, Ohio St. would lose a scholarship for a year. It would seem that,depending on the degree,completing an MA/MS in one year,especially with a thesis would be tough. I could see giving 2 years before losing a scholarship. This is a good point, but the bottom line is that he or she needs to complete the degree or the institution forfeits a scholarship the following year. That would keep the system honest. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 18  of 18 Posts Jump to Page:   1 View Other 'Ohio Basketball' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 275 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 272 Guests 3 Registered Users:   BryanHall, OUs LONG Driver, bobcatsquared There are no other users looking at this page.

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