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ts1227
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  Message Not Read  Carlston Retires
   Posted: 5/9/2025 8:38:23 AM 
https://ohiobobcats.com/news/2025/5/8/general-ohio-athlet...
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  Message Not Read  RE: Carlston Retires
   Posted: 5/9/2025 10:17:31 AM 
Looks like Julie punts. Makes assistant interim coach instead of conducting a search now. Like rpbobcat says, got to polish up those NCAA credentials, no time to mind the store on the home front.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Carlston Retires
   Posted: 5/9/2025 1:02:40 PM 
I know he did a lot for this program in his first stint in Athens, but I always felt he came back here in large part to continue accruing years into the state retirement system. Choosing to leave at this late date really sucks.
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BobcatBurner
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  Message Not Read  RE: Carlston Retires
   Posted: 5/9/2025 3:27:05 PM 
brucecuth wrote:
I know he did a lot for this program in his first stint in Athens, but I always felt he came back here in large part to continue accruing years into the state retirement system. Choosing to leave at this late date really sucks.


Not too clued into volleyball, but Volleytalk seemingly has a OU parent saying the players are the reason, and was going to be let go if he didn't retire.

Looked it up, and Carlston was hired in July of 2021. That seems like bad timing as well. What's with this program?

Doesn't feel like there's time to do a full search in May?

https://volleytalk.proboards.com/thread/101342/2024-2025-...
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ts1227
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  Message Not Read  RE: Carlston Retires
   Posted: 5/9/2025 3:57:58 PM 
BobcatBurner wrote:
brucecuth wrote:
I know he did a lot for this program in his first stint in Athens, but I always felt he came back here in large part to continue accruing years into the state retirement system. Choosing to leave at this late date really sucks.


Not too clued into volleyball, but Volleytalk seemingly has a OU parent saying the players are the reason, and was going to be let go if he didn't retire.

Looked it up, and Carlston was hired in July of 2021. That seems like bad timing as well. What's with this program?

Doesn't feel like there's time to do a full search in May?

https://volleytalk.proboards.com/thread/101342/2024-2025-...


Looks like the account that posted that just signed up to make said accusation, and is getting lit up like a Christmas tree for likely being a disgruntled helicopter parent.

I’d buy the PERS argument, though.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Carlston Retires
   Posted: 5/9/2025 11:42:29 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
Looks like Julie punts. Makes assistant interim coach instead of conducting a search now. Like rpbobcat says, got to polish up those NCAA credentials, no time to mind the store on the home front.


Have to disagree with our logic, or lack thereof, here. Any program needs a Head Coach when in transition. Cromer has been our AD almost 6 years. If she wanted to bail, she could have by now.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Carlston Retires
   Posted: 5/11/2025 8:44:31 AM 
mid70sbobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Looks like Julie punts. Makes assistant interim coach instead of conducting a search now. Like rpbobcat says, got to polish up those NCAA credentials, no time to mind the store on the home front.


Have to disagree with our logic, or lack thereof, here. Any program needs a Head Coach when in transition. Cromer has been our AD almost 6 years. If she wanted to bail, she could have by now.



Yeah that’s what Tom Boeh and Jim Schaus thought too. If anyone thinks their tenures were so long out of their love for Athens is delusional.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Carlston Retires
   Posted: 5/11/2025 4:16:42 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
mid70sbobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Looks like Julie punts. Makes assistant interim coach instead of conducting a search now. Like rpbobcat says, got to polish up those NCAA credentials, no time to mind the store on the home front.


Have to disagree with our logic, or lack thereof, here. Any program needs a Head Coach when in transition. Cromer has been our AD almost 6 years. If she wanted to bail, she could have by now.



Yeah that’s what Tom Boeh and Jim Schaus thought too. If anyone thinks their tenures were so long out of their love for Athens is delusional.


Do you really think every AD/coach/staff of Ohio wants to work in the MAC/live in one place forever? It’s not 1965. If you think everyone wants to stay in Athens forever, you’re delusional.

Boeh was 95-05, Schaus 08-19, Cromer 19-present. What more do you want? That’s not job hopping. That’s not just using Ohio as a stepping stone. If a coach or AD gets a better job, that means they were successful here. It’s where we are on the food chain. Want to change that? Raise some cash.

It hurts me as well when coaches leave. Selfishly I want the good ones in Athens forever. But I don’t see how you can be critical of an 11 year tenure as “wanting out.”
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  Message Not Read  RE: Carlston Retires
   Posted: 5/12/2025 9:31:33 PM 
BobcatBurner wrote:
BillyTheCat wrote:
mid70sbobcat wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
Looks like Julie punts. Makes assistant interim coach instead of conducting a search now. Like rpbobcat says, got to polish up those NCAA credentials, no time to mind the store on the home front.


Have to disagree with our logic, or lack thereof, here. Any program needs a Head Coach when in transition. Cromer has been our AD almost 6 years. If she wanted to bail, she could have by now.



Yeah that’s what Tom Boeh and Jim Schaus thought too. If anyone thinks their tenures were so long out of their love for Athens is delusional.


Do you really think every AD/coach/staff of Ohio wants to work in the MAC/live in one place forever? It’s not 1965. If you think everyone wants to stay in Athens forever, you’re delusional.

Boeh was 95-05, Schaus 08-19, Cromer 19-present. What more do you want? That’s not job hopping. That’s not just using Ohio as a stepping stone. If a coach or AD gets a better job, that means they were successful here. It’s where we are on the food chain. Want to change that? Raise some cash.

It hurts me as well when coaches leave. Selfishly I want the good ones in Athens forever. But I don’t see how you can be critical of an 11 year tenure as “wanting out.”


No, I don’t, but as you probably know, they spent lots more time here then they thought they would. That’s just fact. And not sure why you think I have the attitude, they came, they put a lot of time in. The fact, I’m stating it’s more time then they thought they would be here is a bad thing? To borrow your own words “do you really think 11-12 years was on the timetable for Schaus or Boeh? Schaus and Boeh applied for jobs every year. Good for them, it’s a free market.

And being honest isn’t critical. Here for 11 year, good job, applying every year is wanting out. Again, neither Boeh nor Schaus stayed that long because they wanted to.

Last Edited: 5/12/2025 9:33:17 PM by BillyTheCat

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  Message Not Read  RE: Carlston Retires
   Posted: 5/13/2025 12:05:23 AM 
Don't know about Boeh, but Schaus supposedly was here because it was as close to his parents as he could get. They reportedly lived in Morgantown at that time. Perhaps, he was applying to jobs a Fairmont State, Wheeling Jesuit and West Virginia Wesleyan to get a little closer?


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  Message Not Read  RE: Carlston Retires
   Posted: 5/13/2025 10:21:23 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
Don't know about Boeh, but Schaus supposedly was here because it was as close to his parents as he could get. They reportedly lived in Morgantown at that time. Perhaps, he was applying to jobs a Fairmont State, Wheeling Jesuit and West Virginia Wesleyan to get a little closer?


Or perhaps you don’t fully know the actual situation. But ok. I actually heard he turned the Fairmont job down because a lack of free shuttle service for him and his wifeb.
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