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That said, it took less than a minute to find the size of endowment funds for all Ohio universities, state assisted and private. Overall, Ohio's endowment fund ranks 7th among all the state's universities and colleges. Here is how it stacks up among MAC schools in Ohio. * Ohio - $579,349,840 (main campus only) * Miami - $554,869,000 * Toledo -$297,373,929 * Akron - $223,554,119 * BG - $174,231,527 * Kent - $145,874,869 Clearly endowment money isn't likely to be used to pay players. Perhaps other Ohio schools have donors giving big money to pay players but who are skimping on donating to endowment funds. http://www.facebook.com/mikejohnson.author Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 15,339 Status: Offline     RE: money    Posted: 1/18/2026 1:36:11 PM  Mike: I've seen a different figure for our overall endowment recently. It was approaching $1 billion. I don't think the branch campuses add much. Can't explain the discrepancy. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top Mike Johnson General User Member Since: 11/11/2004 Location: North Canton, OH Post Count: 1,753 Status: Offline     RE: money    Posted: 1/18/2026 1:43:57 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: Mike: I've seen a different figure for our overall endowment recently. It was approaching $1 billion. I don't think the branch campuses add much. Can't explain the discrepancy. It would be nice if your $1 billion is correct. I can only say that the list I found was labled most recently reported totals. http://www.facebook.com/mikejohnson.author Back to Top BuddyLee General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 686 Status: Offline     RE: money    Posted: 1/18/2026 2:20:10 PM  Has there ever been any credible information about what OU or MAC football players in general are being paid by their schools (I believe up to $20 million budget is allowed now) or outside NIL collective funds? I have a pretty good idea about what many of these P4 school kids (OSU etc) are getting in the portal, through insider message boards and informed reporters. It seems difficult for us to know what is needed to be competitive if there is no transparency about what money is available and being spent. Anyone have any informed speculation of the total cost of our roster and how we might compare in the overall MAC hierarchy? Last Edited: 1/18/2026 2:20:54 PM by BuddyLee Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,322 Status: Offline     RE: money    Posted: 1/18/2026 4:11:34 PM  https://give.ohio.edu/advancement/endowment Back to Top Mike Coleman Administrator Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Near the Pristine Sandy Shores of Lake Erie, OH Post Count: 1,958 Status: Offline     RE: money    Posted: 1/18/2026 9:09:25 PM  Alan Swank wrote: https://give.ohio.edu/advancement/endowment Am I reading this right: $1.2 Billion for university endowment and another $800 million for OU Foundation as of June 2024? Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,707 Status: Offline     RE: money    Posted: 1/18/2026 10:47:07 PM  Mike Johnson wrote: It might well be true that, among MAC schools and in particular those in Ohio, OU has less money to pay its football and basketball players or potential recruits. That said, it took less than a minute to find the size of endowment funds for all Ohio universities, state assisted and private. Overall, Ohio's endowment fund ranks 7th among all the state's universities and colleges. Here is how it stacks up among MAC schools in Ohio. * Ohio - $579,349,840 (main campus only) * Miami - $554,869,000 * Toledo -$297,373,929 * Akron - $223,554,119 * BG - $174,231,527 * Kent - $145,874,869 Clearly endowment money isn't likely to be used to pay players. Perhaps other Ohio schools have donors giving big money to pay players but who are skimping on donating to endowment funds. And what do you think endowments are to be used for? What are the laws on them? By your logic here Harvard and Yale would be athletics power houses. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,322 Status: Offline     RE: money    Posted: 1/19/2026 9:02:03 AM  Mike Coleman wrote: Alan Swank wrote: https://give.ohio.edu/advancement/endowment Am I reading this right: $1.2 Billion for university endowment and another $800 million for OU Foundation as of June 2024? In this report, the endowment was $800 million. Back to Top Mike Johnson General User Member Since: 11/11/2004 Location: North Canton, OH Post Count: 1,753 Status: Offline     RE: money    Posted: 1/19/2026 9:30:40 AM  BillyTheCat wrote: Mike Johnson wrote: It might well be true that, among MAC schools and in particular those in Ohio, OU has less money to pay its football and basketball players or potential recruits. That said, it took less than a minute to find the size of endowment funds for all Ohio universities, state assisted and private. Overall, Ohio's endowment fund ranks 7th among all the state's universities and colleges. Here is how it stacks up among MAC schools in Ohio. * Ohio - $579,349,840 (main campus only) * Miami - $554,869,000 * Toledo -$297,373,929 * Akron - $223,554,119 * BG - $174,231,527 * Kent - $145,874,869 Clearly endowment money isn't likely to be used to pay players. Perhaps other Ohio schools have donors giving big money to pay players but who are skimping on donating to endowment funds. And what do you think endowments are to be used for? What are the laws on them? By your logic here Harvard and Yale would be athletics power houses. Billy, re your reference to my "logic." I don't see that I was offering logic. Rather relating some facts and speculating that OU's endowment won't be used to support athletics. As to any laws regarding endowments, I'm not sure there are such laws. Because of my involvement with several non-profits, I know that their endowments are used for a range of purposes. Which leads me to think that different entities can use endowment funds for a variety of purposes and, with board approval, change or expand those purposes. http://www.facebook.com/mikejohnson.author Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,322 Status: Offline     RE: money    Posted: 1/19/2026 10:13:26 AM  Mike Johnson wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: Mike Johnson wrote: It might well be true that, among MAC schools and in particular those in Ohio, OU has less money to pay its football and basketball players or potential recruits. That said, it took less than a minute to find the size of endowment funds for all Ohio universities, state assisted and private. Overall, Ohio's endowment fund ranks 7th among all the state's universities and colleges. Here is how it stacks up among MAC schools in Ohio. * Ohio - $579,349,840 (main campus only) * Miami - $554,869,000 * Toledo -$297,373,929 * Akron - $223,554,119 * BG - $174,231,527 * Kent - $145,874,869 Clearly endowment money isn't likely to be used to pay players. Perhaps other Ohio schools have donors giving big money to pay players but who are skimping on donating to endowment funds. And what do you think endowments are to be used for? What are the laws on them? By your logic here Harvard and Yale would be athletics power houses. Billy, re your reference to my "logic." I don't see that I was offering logic. Rather relating some facts and speculating that OU's endowment won't be used to support athletics. As to any laws regarding endowments, I'm not sure there are such laws. Because of my involvement with several non-profits, I know that their endowments are used for a range of purposes. Which leads me to think that different entities can use endowment funds for a variety of purposes and, with board approval, change or expand those purposes. Many if not most endowment dollars are for specific purposes such as the Green and White Club fund for scholarships for volunteers in the athletics department. They have very specific guidelines as to what they can be used for. I'd be surprised if there are any that are general funds for athletics with no strings attached. Collectives have evolved outside the purview of universities to funnel money directly to athletes. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,707 Status: Offline     RE: money    Posted: 1/19/2026 12:51:09 PM  Mike Johnson wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: Mike Johnson wrote: It might well be true that, among MAC schools and in particular those in Ohio, OU has less money to pay its football and basketball players or potential recruits. That said, it took less than a minute to find the size of endowment funds for all Ohio universities, state assisted and private. Overall, Ohio's endowment fund ranks 7th among all the state's universities and colleges. Here is how it stacks up among MAC schools in Ohio. * Ohio - $579,349,840 (main campus only) * Miami - $554,869,000 * Toledo -$297,373,929 * Akron - $223,554,119 * BG - $174,231,527 * Kent - $145,874,869 Clearly endowment money isn't likely to be used to pay players. Perhaps other Ohio schools have donors giving big money to pay players but who are skimping on donating to endowment funds. And what do you think endowments are to be used for? What are the laws on them? By your logic here Harvard and Yale would be athletics power houses. Billy, re your reference to my "logic." I don't see that I was offering logic. Rather relating some facts and speculating that OU's endowment won't be used to support athletics. As to any laws regarding endowments, I'm not sure there are such laws. Because of my involvement with several non-profits, I know that their endowments are used for a range of purposes. Which leads me to think that different entities can use endowment funds for a variety of purposes and, with board approval, change or expand those purposes. Mike, sorry that I misunderstood your point. As Al stated though the vast majority of the endowment is earmarked for uses from the donors, they are generally restricted from being used for "operating" funds or to cover an immediate cash shortfall. Back to Top Bobcat Jerry General User Member Since: 5/3/2017 Post Count: 296 Status: Offline     RE: money    Posted: 1/20/2026 9:19:22 AM  BillyTheCat wrote: Mike Johnson wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: Mike Johnson wrote: It might well be true that, among MAC schools and in particular those in Ohio, OU has less money to pay its football and basketball players or potential recruits. That said, it took less than a minute to find the size of endowment funds for all Ohio universities, state assisted and private. Overall, Ohio's endowment fund ranks 7th among all the state's universities and colleges. Here is how it stacks up among MAC schools in Ohio. * Ohio - $579,349,840 (main campus only) * Miami - $554,869,000 * Toledo -$297,373,929 * Akron - $223,554,119 * BG - $174,231,527 * Kent - $145,874,869 Clearly endowment money isn't likely to be used to pay players. Perhaps other Ohio schools have donors giving big money to pay players but who are skimping on donating to endowment funds. Where do I mail my check ? And what do you think endowments are to be used for? What are the laws on them? By your logic here Harvard and Yale would be athletics power houses. Billy, re your reference to my "logic." I don't see that I was offering logic. Rather relating some facts and speculating that OU's endowment won't be used to support athletics. As to any laws regarding endowments, I'm not sure there are such laws. Because of my involvement with several non-profits, I know that their endowments are used for a range of purposes. Which leads me to think that different entities can use endowment funds for a variety of purposes and, with board approval, change or expand those purposes. Mike, sorry that I misunderstood your point. As Al stated though the vast majority of the endowment is earmarked for uses from the donors, they are generally restricted from being used for "operating" funds or to cover an immediate cash shortfall. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,672 Status: Offline     RE: money    Posted: 1/20/2026 3:28:48 PM  Alan Swank wrote: Mike Johnson wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: Mike Johnson wrote: It might well be true that, among MAC schools and in particular those in Ohio, OU has less money to pay its football and basketball players or potential recruits. That said, it took less than a minute to find the size of endowment funds for all Ohio universities, state assisted and private. Overall, Ohio's endowment fund ranks 7th among all the state's universities and colleges. Here is how it stacks up among MAC schools in Ohio. * Ohio - $579,349,840 (main campus only) * Miami - $554,869,000 * Toledo -$297,373,929 * Akron - $223,554,119 * BG - $174,231,527 * Kent - $145,874,869 Clearly endowment money isn't likely to be used to pay players. Perhaps other Ohio schools have donors giving big money to pay players but who are skimping on donating to endowment funds. And what do you think endowments are to be used for? What are the laws on them? By your logic here Harvard and Yale would be athletics power houses. Billy, re your reference to my "logic." I don't see that I was offering logic. Rather relating some facts and speculating that OU's endowment won't be used to support athletics. As to any laws regarding endowments, I'm not sure there are such laws. Because of my involvement with several non-profits, I know that their endowments are used for a range of purposes. Which leads me to think that different entities can use endowment funds for a variety of purposes and, with board approval, change or expand those purposes. Many if not most endowment dollars are for specific purposes such as the Green and White Club fund for scholarships for volunteers in the athletics department. They have very specific guidelines as to what they can be used for. I'd be surprised if there are any that are general funds for athletics with no strings attached. Collectives have evolved outside the purview of universities to funnel money directly to athletes. Per the 2024 financial report, here is what the endowment spent (donated? gifted? whatever the term) on athletics. Total: $1,080,905 Salaries & Benefits: $201,457 Supplies & Services: $202,455 Occupancy, Maintenance & Repairs: $592,708 Travel & Entertainment: $84,285 These figures are down from 2023, where the total was $1,554,293. The biggest expense that went down was Occupancy, Maintenance & Repairs. Last Edited: 1/20/2026 3:29:24 PM by GoCats105 Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 13  of 13 Posts Jump to Page:   1 View Other 'Ohio Football' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 192 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 192 Guests 0 Registered Users There are no other users looking at this page.

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