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LynxRufus6
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  Message Not Read  Toledo vs NIU
   Posted: 11/2/2017 7:46:34 PM 
Anyone else watching? #3, a WR named Johnson looks like a man among boys out there. Should be interesting to see how the Cats gameplan around keeping him in check, considering how they struggled early on against Miami’s WR’s.

Sidenote: Currently at Riverside hospital sporting my OU hoodie and have gotten quite a few “Go Bobcats!” remarks. I had an older lady who served me a warm tea earlier tell me about how she lived in a dorm I’d probably never heard of before, which was Voigt Hall (still exists) and when I told her it’s still there, as an all-girls dorm she lit up with excitement and practically planned her next trip to Athens. Gotta love running into fellow Bobcats outside of Athens.
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bobcat695
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  Message Not Read  RE: Toledo vs NIU
   Posted: 11/2/2017 10:23:04 PM 
That's a great story. but also an indictment of our alumni base. How does someone that is classified as "older" live 90 minutes from Athens, yet never find a reason to go back to campus? How many years has it been? This is a really common story based on my conversations with our grads of all ages.

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   Posted: 11/2/2017 11:09:21 PM 
bobcat695 wrote:
That's a great story. but also an indictment of our alumni base. How does someone that is classified as "older" live 90 minutes from Athens, yet never find a reason to go back to campus? How many years has it been? This is a really common story based on my conversations with our grads of all ages.


So they identify more with OSU than Ohio.

Like I told my son...I got my Ohio shirt in Athens as an Ohio alum...you got your OSU shirt at Walmart.
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OhioCatFan
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   Posted: 11/3/2017 1:01:28 AM 
I've told this story before, but my wife's pediatrician when she was growing up, and also a family friend, was a graduate of OHIO and was in the marching band. He talked about having marched next to Sammy Kaye. However, in the time I knew him, and for many years prior to that, I don't believe he ever came back to Athens. In fact, he may never have been back since the day he graduated. I'm not totally sure about that last statement, but if he was ever back it was not in the last three or four decades of his life. He was a big OSU fan. He lived in Upper Arlington. Whenever I would talk to him about OHIO and/or Athens, he would act interested, but it seemed to be a part of his life that he really didn't want to reconnect with. He didn't have any negative experiences, no grudges, but I just got the feeling that his attitude was one of benign neglect. I never quite understood it. We invited him to come and visit us in Athens sometime, but it never happened. My sense is that a lot of OHIO alums from his time period were similar. I do think this phenomenon is less common today, but it does still exist.

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Robert Fox
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   Posted: 11/3/2017 7:32:08 AM 
My uncle fits that category. Went to OU on the GI Bill. Still refers to East Green as Pig Island. Talks about the constant flood problems they had. To be fair, he transferred out of OU at some later point and completed his degree at what is now Case Western. I don't think he's been back to OU's campus in at least 30--maybe 50-- years.
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Alan Swank
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   Posted: 11/3/2017 8:11:21 AM 
bobcat695 wrote:
That's a great story. but also an indictment of our alumni base. How does someone that is classified as "older" live 90 minutes from Athens, yet never find a reason to go back to campus? How many years has it been? This is a really common story based on my conversations with our grads of all ages.


That's an indictment of many alumni bases. Went to my 40th reunion at Muskingum in June. Amazing how many people who live with an hour or two never come back to campus. I'm missed very OU Homecomings but most from my alma mater. I guess I've adopted OU as many have adopted tosu.
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OUcats82
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   Posted: 11/3/2017 8:53:05 AM 
College definitely means more to some than others and/or some stay more closely connected. I own a few dozen OU shirts, hats, jackets, have OU emblems on my car, fly a flag on my house etc. Wear an OU jersey often when doing cycling tours, have a mini helmet, mini basketball and pennant hanging in my office.

But I have a lot of friends I went to Ohio with who if they have OU clothing it would have been a shirt that they purchased when a student 15-20 years ago and maybe wear it to do housework in. They enjoyed their time in Athens and it will always mean something to them, but it was likely more of a means to an end. But I think they have half of the OSU shirts Homage sells-likely because they had been cheering for OSU for years before they even knew Athens was a place.

I honestly only go out of my way to keep up with football and basketball. I'm not very well versed on what is going on academically unless I see in on social media or the alumni magazine. I'd like to be more generous financially but right now I am more concerned about making sure there is plenty of resources to send two (hopefully) future Bobcats to Athens in about 15 years. I also have not been on campus in about 4 years as life is just not as conducive to it. Once my boys are a little older and potty trained, we will make trips to Athens a regularity.

But, all that being said, anyone who knows me, or sees my driving down the street, should easily know where I went and who my team is!

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   Posted: 11/3/2017 9:03:49 AM 
I think on a whole, we do better than most in terms of engagement. Nerds like those of us on this board are of course more tuned in, but I have a lot of friends who don't care about sports but still love going back for the bars, memories and food. Most people who graduate have very fond memories.
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DelBobcat
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   Posted: 11/3/2017 10:37:24 AM 
OUcats82 wrote:


But I have a lot of friends I went to Ohio with who if they have OU clothing it would have been a shirt that they purchased when a student 15-20 years ago and maybe wear it to do housework in. They enjoyed their time in Athens and it will always mean something to them, but it was likely more of a means to an end. But I think they have half of the OSU shirts Homage sells-likely because they had been cheering for OSU for years before they even knew Athens was a place.



Funny thing is, Homage is owned by an OU alum and has great OU gear. They should buy some of that stuff! Also, I would really like to see Homage open up a store on Court Street. And since Big Mama's has become a chain I'd like to see them open up a shop in downtown Cincinnati haha.

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   Posted: 11/3/2017 10:39:32 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
I do think this phenomenon is less common today, but it does still exist.


This feels right. The folks I graduated with in 2010 seem to make regular pilgrimages to Athens one or two times per year. This is true even of those that live in NYC, DC, Chicago, etc. On the other hand, I started a new job and work with a fellow OU alum who said she misses Athens so much and hasn't been back since she graduated 25 years ago. I asked her why and her reply was that she wasn't sure, just hadn't happened. I suggested if she missed it she should make a trip back.

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   Posted: 11/3/2017 10:47:48 AM 
OUcats82 wrote:
Once my boys are a little older and potty trained, we will make trips to Athens a regularity.



I gotta tell you the same thing I tell everyone I know that's an alumnus with kids: come to Athens during fall football season. The tailgating environment is, in my opinion, great for kids. My buddy brought his 3 and 5 year olds for Homecoming - the whole deal - parade, tailgating with hot dogs, game and halftime band show, and they loved it. Now, they had to leave early 3Q because the kids were done, but they obviously enjoyed the day.

I've also brought my buddy and his kids for basketball - and they're not even Bobcats - and his kids asked when they could come next. Athens makes an impression on kids, and despite the memories we have as students, going to bars and parties, etc., Athens is a great place to bring the kids for the day. And other than money spent on fancy Jackie O's beers, Athens is an inexpensive place to spend the day.


(you probably already know all this, but it never hurts to remind, or put it out there for others)
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OUcats82
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   Posted: 11/3/2017 11:56:34 AM 
OU_Country wrote:
OUcats82 wrote:
Once my boys are a little older and potty trained, we will make trips to Athens a regularity.



I gotta tell you the same thing I tell everyone I know that's an alumnus with kids: come to Athens during fall football season. The tailgating environment is, in my opinion, great for kids. My buddy brought his 3 and 5 year olds for Homecoming - the whole deal - parade, tailgating with hot dogs, game and halftime band show, and they loved it. Now, they had to leave early 3Q because the kids were done, but they obviously enjoyed the day.

I've also brought my buddy and his kids for basketball - and they're not even Bobcats - and his kids asked when they could come next. Athens makes an impression on kids, and despite the memories we have as students, going to bars and parties, etc., Athens is a great place to bring the kids for the day. And other than money spent on fancy Jackie O's beers, Athens is an inexpensive place to spend the day.


(you probably already know all this, but it never hurts to remind, or put it out there for others)


Thanks for the great information! I think they will love all of those things. May need Spiderman or Paw Patrol to show up at the game though to keep the attention spans going LOL.

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   Posted: 11/3/2017 5:24:11 PM 
IMO attatchment to sports, Bobcat radicalization happens first normally around basketball. We've always had a strong, interesting to follow mid major team. Then as radicalization proceeds they discover football and the realization that football is key to a universities athletic posture. They finally part ways with basketball as the time commitment of too many games and small roster of 13-15 players pales in comparison to the complexity and importance of football. Sigmund Freud once wrote about this I would imagine.

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   Posted: 11/4/2017 11:12:46 AM 
Most people have to have a reason to come back to Athens. For most of us, it's sports-related. But a lot of people -- and I know some will find this hard to believe -- just don't have an interest in sports. And they just don't one day say "Gee, I'd like to see Ohio again." They have a lot going on in their lives, like making a living and family stuff. So I can see how it can happen.

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