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C Money
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yep

Posted: 10/7/2017 5:20:40 PM

7-5 here we come!

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/7/2017 5:24:11 PM

This was our oops game. Doesn't change the geometry of the MAC race for us at this point at least. Miami and Toledo didn't look that great either this week.

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2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round
2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl
2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/7/2017 6:29:44 PM

Uncle Wes wrote:

This was our oops game. Doesn't change the geometry of the MAC race for us at this point at least. Miami and Toledo didn't look that great either this week.

Doesn't matter if you look great or not.....did you win or not?

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/7/2017 7:13:41 PM

The next two are very winnable even though BG beat Fiami today. Win those two. Go 2-1 against Fiami/Buffalo/Akron, and probably a loss to Toledo. 8-4!

What a day at the Convo.....Wow!

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/7/2017 8:59:47 PM

Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:

Uncle Wes wrote:

This was our oops game. Doesn't change the geometry of the MAC race for us at this point at least. Miami and Toledo didn't look that great either this week.

Doesn't matter if you look great or not.....did you win or not?

Yup. Computers had CMU as of worst 20 teams in the country.

Can't lose that game ... at home

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/7/2017 10:05:19 PM

bshot44 wrote:

Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:

Uncle Wes wrote:

This was our oops game. Doesn't change the geometry of the MAC race for us at this point at least. Miami and Toledo didn't look that great either this week.

Doesn't matter if you look great or not.....did you win or not?

Yup. Computers had CMU as of worst 20 teams in the country.

Can't lose that game ... at home

Computers hadn't seen #83 Tyler Conklin this year. Crazy game.

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/7/2017 10:59:48 PM

Rollemeaway wrote:

bshot44 wrote:

Buckeye to Bobcat wrote:

Uncle Wes wrote:

This was our oops game. Doesn't change the geometry of the MAC race for us at this point at least. Miami and Toledo didn't look that great either this week.

Doesn't matter if you look great or not.....did you win or not?

Yup. Computers had CMU as of worst 20 teams in the country.

Can't lose that game ... at home

Computers hadn't seen #83 Tyler Conklin this year. Crazy game.

Ohio secondary makes a lot of guys look All-American

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/7/2017 11:41:54 PM

Has anyone checked to see if Peden was built on sacred Chippewa burial grounds? They have our number, no matter how good we are or how bad they are.

We're in the same position we were last year -- sweep the East and we should be going to Detroit the week after Thanksgiving.

We will get by.
We will get by.
We will get by.
We will survive.

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/8/2017 2:31:21 AM

Uncle Wes wrote:

This was our oops game. Doesn't change the geometry of the MAC race for us at this point at least. Miami and Toledo didn't look that great either this week.

It does change the geometry because that was a game we had no business losing. Should be 2-0 with Akron and a game up on Miami, Buffalo and BG.

Buffalo is the team that can take the mindset of, "Well it isn't good to lose, but in the bigger picture it wasn't that much of a setback because of what happened with the rest of the division."

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/8/2017 9:50:27 AM

CMU had size! We got out physicalled in that game. The refs made and missed some very key calls. Once again I witnessed a lack of on field communication which probably contributed to a lot of negative plays for us. Our secondary needs help. Conklin is a beast. The only rotation I saw on defense was on the line which led to tired Bobcat defenders on the last series missing key tackles. Rourke got blasted on a couple of those fumbles, but I do think he needs to be more protective of the ball when scrambling. I'm sure they will work on that. The injuries to our O line worry me the most. I see 8-4, if we can pull a MAC East out of that and get to Detroit, anything can happen.

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/8/2017 2:00:47 PM

Sam bobcat wrote:

Well said.

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/8/2017 9:39:56 PM

Conklin had a good day against us. No doubt about that. However, we should have still won that game. It was definitely a self-inflicted loss. Turnovers, poor tackling late, blocked FG for a TD, dumb penalties, all decided the day.

The good news is that all that can be corrected. We didn't get our butts handed to us yesterday.

I remain guardedly optimistic about the rest of the season. The injuries are worrisome.

Last Edited: 10/8/2017 9:41:06 PM by AlumDadDad

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/9/2017 2:54:41 PM

AlumDadDad wrote:

The good news is that all that can be corrected. We didn't get our butts handed to us yesterday.

Replace 2017 season with 2016...2015...2014...etc.

This comment can be used for almost every season in the Solich era. Why do they continue to lose these type of games every single year?!?

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/9/2017 3:49:40 PM

bshot44 wrote:

AlumDadDad wrote:

The good news is that all that can be corrected. We didn't get our butts handed to us yesterday.

Replace 2017 season with 2016...2015...2014...etc.

This comment can be used for almost every season in the Solich era. Why do they continue to lose these type of games every single year?!?

Here's a fact: Ohio has never gone undefeated at home under this regime. A lot of 5-1 and 4-2 with absolute head scratching losses.

Last Edited: 10/9/2017 3:50:10 PM by GoCats105

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/9/2017 4:16:01 PM

bshot44 wrote:

AlumDadDad wrote:

The good news is that all that can be corrected. We didn't get our butts handed to us yesterday.

Replace 2017 season with 2016...2015...2014...etc.

This comment can be used for almost every season in the Solich era. Why do they continue to lose these type of games every single year?!?

While true, all the other teams in the MAC are probably asking why Ohio can be consistently good every darn year but they can't be! SO FRUSTRATING WITH ALL THE UPS AND DOWNS!! MOSTLY DOWNS!!! ARGH! THOSE BOBCAT'S HAVE IT SO GOOD!

It's possible...

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/9/2017 6:14:37 PM

bshot44 wrote:

AlumDadDad wrote:

The good news is that all that can be corrected. We didn't get our butts handed to us yesterday.

Replace 2017 season with 2016...2015...2014...etc.

This comment can be used for almost every season in the Solich era. Why do they continue to lose these type of games every single year?!?

Actually, to be clear, there were some serious butt-handings in '14 and '15. Granted, a loss is a loss, and it doesn't feel good either way. I just don't think the comparison between Saturday and those games is very valid.

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/9/2017 9:18:50 PM

Sam bobcat wrote:

bshot44 wrote:

AlumDadDad wrote:

The good news is that all that can be corrected. We didn't get our butts handed to us yesterday.

Replace 2017 season with 2016...2015...2014...etc.

This comment can be used for almost every season in the Solich era. Why do they continue to lose these type of games every single year?!?

Name one other MAC program that has had the same coaching staff intact for 13 years ...

Name one other MAC program that consistently schedules weak to very weak out of conference schedules to rack up wins ...

Beating up on UMass, Kansas, Idaho, NM State and FCS punching bags each year isn't exactly something to puff your chest out about ... but it is a good to way to almost guarantee bowl eligibility every year especially when you play in the dumpster fire MAC East.

AlumDadDad wrote:

bshot44 wrote:

AlumDadDad wrote:

The good news is that all that can be corrected. We didn't get our butts handed to us yesterday.

Replace 2017 season with 2016...2015...2014...etc.

This comment can be used for almost every season in the Solich era. Why do they continue to lose these type of games every single year?!?

While yes, technically you're right ... Saturday's loss wasn't like the ones from 2014 & 2015 where Ohio got embarrassed in more than a few games ... but all puzzling losses all the same.

After 13 years, wouldn't you think there would be one year they finally put it all together? I'm not saying a perfect season ... but one void of either a headscratching loss or ass-whooping?

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/9/2017 9:20:10 PM

bshot44 wrote:

AlumDadDad wrote:

The good news is that all that can be corrected. We didn't get our butts handed to us yesterday.

Replace 2017 season with 2016...2015...2014...etc.

This comment can be used for almost every season in the Solich era. Why do they continue to lose these type of games every single year?!?

My answer is...because it's football. Every team is going to have games where everything goes wrong. The only way you can avoid losing a game on a day like that is to be so much better than everyone you play that it doesn't matter. There are teams for which that applies, but Ohio isn't one of them. -3 on Turnovers, combined with a FG blocked and returned for a TD was too much for them to overcome.

These things tend to balance out, over time. NIU got a free win over Nebraska this year by virtue of 14 free points courtesy of 2 pick sixes. Then, they lost to San Diego State because they gave up 14 free points, via a pick six and a kick returned for a TD.

�We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.� ― Epictetus

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/9/2017 9:24:45 PM

I'd trade our 13 boring years of mediocrity for the few exciting years PJ Fleck produced in Kalamazoo. We're closer to Charging a Jazzy Scooter than Rowing The Boat.

"You can't un-fist a fist pump." - Saul Phillips 1/24/15

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/9/2017 9:30:51 PM

L.C. wrote:

bshot44 wrote:

AlumDadDad wrote:

The good news is that all that can be corrected. We didn't get our butts handed to us yesterday.

Replace 2017 season with 2016...2015...2014...etc.

This comment can be used for almost every season in the Solich era. Why do they continue to lose these type of games every single year?!?

Why did people seem to think Ohio has no accountability for the turnovers or blocked FG? Like that was some result of mother nature or something.

Ohio lost because they screwed up. It was their fault. It wasn't bad luck ... an "Oh, shucks ... can't control that"

These excuses always follow these inexplicable losses.

Call a spade a spade. Ohio messed this one up. No one else.

They turned the ball over

They didn't block well on the FG try

They didn't line up right on the illegal formation penalty that wiped out the TD

They didn't tackle well late in the game

They got the pass interference on 3rd down

They didn't adjust to the TE murdering them all afternoon ... or the blitzes CMU threw at them

Quit chalking it up to bad luck or some cosmic happening.

These crazy losses happen every year ... and every year a sackful of excuses follow them. When does it end? For at least one year in the last 10+ yrs ... when do we get a year when they just don't lay an egg against either an inferior opponent or get absolutely blown out of the water by someone who really isn't that much better or sometimes actually worse?

Again ... same story, different year. You can set your watch by it

Puzzling losses by year

2006
BG 21-9

2007
Wyoming 34-33
Kent 33-25

2008
Wyoming 21-20
BG 28-3

2009
Kent 20-11

2010
Kent 28-6

2011
Buffalo 38-37
Ball 23-20

2012
Miami 23-20
BG 24-14
Ball 52-27

2013
CMU 26-23
Buffalo 30-3
Kent 44-13
BG 49-0

2014
The only year there isn't a real obvious one. Near loss at 2-10 Miami to end year

2015
WMU 49-14
Buffalo 41-17
BG 62-24

2016
Texas St 56-54
CMU 27-20

Last Edited: 10/9/2017 9:48:42 PM by bshot44

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/9/2017 10:08:11 PM

You'll also find wins where things went right, too. That is the nature of the game.

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/9/2017 11:27:00 PM

L.C. wrote:

You'll also find wins where things went right, too. That is the nature of the game.

The thing is LC, it's turned into SSDD territory.

I grew up with Hoosier fans and anytime they watch a football game, they know that point where their team is going to blow it. It's just inevitable. Doesn't matter how you script it, it's like a verse in the history book that gets repeated time and time again. With Solich, we can write the history book before the event occurs. That's how bad it's gotten. Western Michigan changed its fortunes with Fleck, why can't we? Because we run the SSDD offense and defense which gives us the SSDD results.

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/9/2017 11:50:35 PM

L.C. wrote:

You'll also find wins where things went right, too. That is the nature of the game.

You sound like a Republican on CNN during election coverage.

Spin, spin, spin ... just avoiding the obvious.

The CMU loss wasn't an aberration ... it has become the norm for the Solich era (as shown above)

Can you list a win or wins each season that were unexpected or upsets?

Last Edited: 10/9/2017 11:51:05 PM by bshot44

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/10/2017 7:49:50 AM

bshot44- Maybe you forget the Pitt and Penn State wins or the the bowl win in Boise over Utah State or the win at Toledo last year or the win at Northern Illinois in Frank's second season with Kalvin at RB. These are just a few that come to mind. Sure there are some losses that are difficult to forget, but this program has won games that were unexpected or when they were underdogs. It is because of posters like you and the person that was booted several months ago that some Bobcat fans and alums choose not to post or read this message board. The constant negative posts are what drives fans away from this message board. I realize and I am certain that the players and coaches realize that everything isn't all peaches and cream, but this football program is WAY BETTER OFF than it was decades ago. You and others like you can suggest Frank should retire, but Ohio University has improved by leaps and bounds since he took over. Go Bobcats and bounce back at BG Saturday!

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RE: yep

Posted: 10/10/2017 8:10:42 AM

Bobcat1996 wrote:

And the constant praise and positive posts for a program that has been stagnant for several years do the same for other posters. It's not all sunshine and rainbows, and it's not all gloomy and rainy either. The program is what it is. It's not great, but it's good enough to win a handful of games. Some people have higher expectations, some don't. They shouldn't be berated either way.

The comment about Frank improving the program leaps and bounds since he took over is irrelevant. Everyone on this board agrees with that. Even the ones who want to see some type of change.

The best example I can currently give is Virginia Tech under Frank Beamer. We wouldn't even know who they hell the Hokies were if not for Beamer. But the program grew stagnant and they let him ride off into the sunset and brought in a fresh perspective, now look at them. Right back near the top of the league and a threat.

I don't think Ohio necessarily can or will fire Frank because of all he has done for the program. But there has to be some type of plan for the future and a mutual agreement. The program will be what it is until that point.

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