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Valley Cat
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  Message Not Read  Elijah Ball injury
   Posted: 8/27/2017 3:20:52 PM 
https://mobile.twitter.com/Elijah_8Ball/status/9018771367...

Out for the season with an ACL injury. Tough loss for the Cats. Top receiver goes down. Get well soon.
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L.C.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elijah Ball injury
   Posted: 8/27/2017 3:43:58 PM 
Well, that just sucks. I was looking forward to seeing him, Cope, and White terrorize defenses. Someone else will need to step up.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Elijah Ball injury
   Posted: 8/27/2017 5:09:12 PM 
Jesus.

This is why we can't have nice things.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elijah Ball injury
   Posted: 8/27/2017 6:48:44 PM 
Big loss. Now we are down to just 2 WR's with any type of experience.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elijah Ball injury
   Posted: 8/27/2017 8:01:51 PM 
I'm just not sure who steps up. I've seen one practice this season and to say that EB was the best receiver on the field that day would be a huge understatement.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elijah Ball injury
   Posted: 8/27/2017 8:21:42 PM 
I think Willie Cherry or Keevan Harris has to step up. Good sized kids that can be MAC mismatches over the next several years.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elijah Ball injury
   Posted: 8/27/2017 10:07:19 PM 
Huge loss. In terms of who steps up I'm looking to the TE position. We have two upper classmen tight ends in Mangen and Morgan. it will be interesting to see how many targets they get this year.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elijah Ball injury
   Posted: 8/27/2017 10:45:59 PM 
wow, this is awful. Is Cam Odom ready to go?

Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elijah Ball injury
   Posted: 8/28/2017 6:54:49 AM 
Pretty sure I saw Odom in a red jersey last week. I guess we find out this week if he can go. Injuries at CB and WR will test the depth of this team.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elijah Ball injury
   Posted: 8/28/2017 8:37:21 AM 
Every. Flipping. Time.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elijah Ball injury
   Posted: 8/28/2017 10:11:21 AM 
I assume he will qualify for a medical redshirt?

Last Edited: 8/28/2017 10:13:22 AM by OUcats82

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L.C.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elijah Ball injury
   Posted: 8/28/2017 10:44:14 AM 
OUcats82 wrote:
I assume he will qualify for a medical redshirt?

He has already redshirted, so no.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Elijah Ball injury
   Posted: 8/28/2017 11:01:38 AM 
L.C. wrote:
OUcats82 wrote:
I assume he will qualify for a medical redshirt?

He has already redshirted, so no.


He would have to lose a second season to receive a 6th year of eligibility. NCAA athletes get a 5 year clock
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elijah Ball injury
   Posted: 8/28/2017 11:06:54 AM 
L.C. wrote:
OUcats82 wrote:
I assume he will qualify for a medical redshirt?

He has already redshirted, so no.


It would only be a possibility if his first season of redshirting could be proven to be for medical reasons also.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elijah Ball injury
   Posted: 8/28/2017 12:03:26 PM 
Ahh thanks for the explanation....was not 100% sure how those two worked in conjunction with one another.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Elijah Ball injury
   Posted: 8/28/2017 12:48:20 PM 
The basic rule is that you have 4 years of eligibility, and 5 years to use it. Thus, you can "redshirt" one of those years. A second rule is that if you are injured and miss most of a season, it doesn't count as one of your four years, the medical hardship rule. This rule primarily benefits people who have not yet redshirted. Thus, when Papi White played as a true freshman, but was injured after a few games, he was able to count that year as a medical redshirt.

If you miss 2 or more seasons because of injury, you can apply for a sixth year to use up your eligibility. Thus, when Nathan Carpenter had multiple seasons cut short due to injury, he was able to apply for, and was granted a sixth year, giving him an unusual record, with recorded stats in six different years. Didn't he play against Marshall six times? It seems like it.

In Ball's case, since he has already redshirted, and since I don't believe it was for medical reasons, this is just a lost year.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Elijah Ball injury
   Posted: 8/28/2017 1:01:11 PM 
It becomes a little clearer why Ball was videoing the practice the other day. I thought it was strange at the time.
This is a real bummer for the team. Could end up being devastating if no one else steps up.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elijah Ball injury
   Posted: 8/28/2017 2:43:51 PM 
L.C. wrote:
The basic rule is that you have 4 years of eligibility, and 5 years to use it. Thus, you can "redshirt" one of those years. A second rule is that if you are injured and miss most of a season, it doesn't count as one of your four years, the medical hardship rule. This rule primarily benefits people who have not yet redshirted. Thus, when Papi White played as a true freshman, but was injured after a few games, he was able to count that year as a medical redshirt.

If you miss 2 or more seasons because of injury, you can apply for a sixth year to use up your eligibility. Thus, when Nathan Carpenter had multiple seasons cut short due to injury, he was able to apply for, and was granted a sixth year, giving him an unusual record, with recorded stats in six different years. Didn't he play against Marshall six times? It seems like it.

In Ball's case, since he has already redshirted, and since I don't believe it was for medical reasons, this is just a lost year.


It's pretty incredible how detailed the NCAA has to get in order to keep people from finding loopholes in the system. My NCAA Compliance course when I got my master's was probably my favorite class. They even goes as far as having a rule for when the recruits official clock on his five years starts, which I believe is the second he steps on campus after signing the NLI. No givesies, backsies apparently.


Last Edited: 8/28/2017 2:45:53 PM by GoCats105
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elijah Ball injury
   Posted: 8/28/2017 4:52:16 PM 
From Solich's comments, it sounds more Meyer is in the running for the third WR spot (giving Ohio two former QBs), but won't play against Hampton for disciplinary reasons. So, Marhefka, perhaps? Or Cherry? What ever happened to the other player from BC, Seymour?

Last Edited: 8/28/2017 4:52:51 PM by L.C.

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   Posted: 8/28/2017 5:20:54 PM 
L.C. wrote:
From Solich's comments, it sounds more Meyer is in the running for the third WR spot (giving Ohio two former QBs), but won't play against Hampton for disciplinary reasons. So, Marhefka, perhaps? Or Cherry? What ever happened to the other player from BC, Seymour?


Those mentioned above plus:

Odom?

Minter?

Edwards?

Cox?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elijah Ball injury
   Posted: 8/28/2017 6:43:48 PM 
Tupa? Brevin Harris? Keevon Harris? Rinval? Markel Davis? Long? Or some locals, Vu or Edwards?

Lots of names, but who will step up?

Last Edited: 8/28/2017 8:08:10 PM by L.C.

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   Posted: 8/28/2017 7:28:18 PM 
GoCats105 wrote:
L.C. wrote:
The basic rule is that you have 4 years of eligibility, and 5 years to use it. Thus, you can "redshirt" one of those years. A second rule is that if you are injured and miss most of a season, it doesn't count as one of your four years, the medical hardship rule. This rule primarily benefits people who have not yet redshirted. Thus, when Papi White played as a true freshman, but was injured after a few games, he was able to count that year as a medical redshirt.

If you miss 2 or more seasons because of injury, you can apply for a sixth year to use up your eligibility. Thus, when Nathan Carpenter had multiple seasons cut short due to injury, he was able to apply for, and was granted a sixth year, giving him an unusual record, with recorded stats in six different years. Didn't he play against Marshall six times? It seems like it.

In Ball's case, since he has already redshirted, and since I don't believe it was for medical reasons, this is just a lost year.


It's pretty incredible how detailed the NCAA has to get in order to keep people from finding loopholes in the system. My NCAA Compliance course when I got my master's was probably my favorite class. They even goes as far as having a rule for when the recruits official clock on his five years starts, which I believe is the second he steps on campus after signing the NLI. No givesies, backsies apparently.




You ever attempted the recruiting test?
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  Message Not Read  RE: Elijah Ball injury
   Posted: 8/29/2017 8:09:46 AM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:
L.C. wrote:
The basic rule is that you have 4 years of eligibility, and 5 years to use it. Thus, you can "redshirt" one of those years. A second rule is that if you are injured and miss most of a season, it doesn't count as one of your four years, the medical hardship rule. This rule primarily benefits people who have not yet redshirted. Thus, when Papi White played as a true freshman, but was injured after a few games, he was able to count that year as a medical redshirt.

If you miss 2 or more seasons because of injury, you can apply for a sixth year to use up your eligibility. Thus, when Nathan Carpenter had multiple seasons cut short due to injury, he was able to apply for, and was granted a sixth year, giving him an unusual record, with recorded stats in six different years. Didn't he play against Marshall six times? It seems like it.

In Ball's case, since he has already redshirted, and since I don't believe it was for medical reasons, this is just a lost year.


It's pretty incredible how detailed the NCAA has to get in order to keep people from finding loopholes in the system. My NCAA Compliance course when I got my master's was probably my favorite class. They even goes as far as having a rule for when the recruits official clock on his five years starts, which I believe is the second he steps on campus after signing the NLI. No givesies, backsies apparently.




You ever attempted the recruiting test?



I don't think so? We may have had some questions from the recruiting test on our mid-term or final, or maybe we went over them in class. I know we spent a lot of time on the recruiting rules though. It was a lengthy discussion for the better part of two class periods. Our prof was a Compliance Rep at Cincinnati and she told a lovely story about former Wake Forest/UC QB Ben Mauk.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Elijah Ball injury
   Posted: 8/29/2017 8:22:53 AM 
L.C. wrote:
Tupa? Brevin Harris? Keevon Harris? Rinval? Markel Davis? Long? Or some locals, Vu or Edwards?

Lots of names, but who will step up?


Tupa had surgery and is out. A couple of the others looked good.

Last Edited: 8/29/2017 8:27:28 AM by Sam bobcat
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   Posted: 8/29/2017 12:58:09 PM 
Sam bobcat wrote:
L.C. wrote:
Tupa? Brevin Harris? Keevon Harris? Rinval? Markel Davis? Long? Or some locals, Vu or Edwards?

Lots of names, but who will step up?


Tupa had surgery and is out. A couple of the others looked good.


In the Post article Coach Dixon seems to allude to the fact that we have depth at WR. Whether or not the quality is there remains to be seen.

Isiah Cox is listed in the student directory. He supposedly had some clearing house matters to take care of. He's in the media guide listed as a RB. He's not on the roster. His signing day vid on YouTube shows a WR who could play this year.

I gave up my original Solich Soarer hang glider as I kept getting shot at by Turkey hunters in Vinton County. Now I named my drone that and it picked up on WR Hunter Edwards. Local player with nice athletic skills. HUDL vid is mostly QB stuff, but he has made some plays in practice.

Cope and Odom need to stay healthy. TEs need to be more involved in the offense. We should be fine.
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