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OhioCatFan
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  Message Not Read  Miami Sucks . . .
   Posted: 9/16/2017 11:45:55 PM 
but the officiating crew at the Miami-UC game sucks even worse. They were totally clueless most of the game, and in Miami's final drive called off an interference call that the replay showed was actually interference. They also called Miami for delay of game when it appeared that Miami had actually called TO. These were just two examples in the last few minutes of play, but these guys bad bogus calls throughout the game. I believe this may have been the worst officiated game I've ever seen.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Miami Sucks . . .
   Posted: 9/17/2017 12:23:25 AM 
As someone who was there, it's never good to hear both sides griping about calls.

That said, both sides had reasona to gripe. That officiating crew was MACtion-esque
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DXer
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  Message Not Read  RE: Miami Sucks . . .
   Posted: 9/17/2017 2:39:51 AM 
I have always said that officials in all NCAA sports should be governed by an independent NCAA group. This neutral body would hire, schedule, and assess the performance of the officials. Officials should not be under the control of the individual conferences. Even if you believe that officiating is the holiest professions on the face of the earth, just the possibility of partiality to the official's conference should be enough to warrant that they be goverened by an independent organization instead. In today's world potentially millions of dollars can be lost by a P5 conference if its football and basketball teams lose non-conference games, or its top teams lose conference games. Thus a major reason for an independent organization to hire and judge performance.

In the case of this Cincinnati-Miami game, I don't know which conference the officials worked for. However, if they were American Conference officials, I would really be skeptical of the impartiality of the calls that went UC's way near the end of the game.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Miami Sucks . . .
   Posted: 9/17/2017 2:40:27 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
... I believe this may have been the worst officiated game I've ever seen.

Until I see a game with a safety called further from the endzone than the 4-yard line, no game will be in the running for the "worst officiated game" other than a certain game we remember too well.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Miami Sucks . . .
   Posted: 9/17/2017 8:58:34 AM 
DXer wrote:
I have always said that officials in all NCAA sports should be governed by an independent NCAA group. This neutral body would hire, schedule, and assess the performance of the officials. Officials should not be under the control of the individual conferences. Even if you believe that officiating is the holiest professions on the face of the earth, just the possibility of partiality to the official's conference should be enough to warrant that they be goverened by an independent organization instead. In today's world potentially millions of dollars can be lost by a P5 conference if its football and basketball teams lose non-conference games, or its top teams lose conference games. Thus a major reason for an independent organization to hire and judge performance.

In the case of this Cincinnati-Miami game, I don't know which conference the officials worked for. However, if they were American Conference officials, I would really be skeptical of the impartiality of the calls that went UC's way near the end of the game.


Well, you obviously have no clue how NCAA officials are selected, assigned, scheduled, assessed or trained. Because they are independent of the NCAA. BUT alas, believe what you like.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Miami Sucks . . .
   Posted: 9/17/2017 9:52:07 AM 
L.C. wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
... I believe this may have been the worst officiated game I've ever seen.

Until I see a game with a safety called further from the endzone than the 4-yard line, no game will be in the running for the "worst officiated game" other than a certain game we remember too well.



That was certainly the worst call I've ever seen. This game is in the running for worst overall called game.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Miami Sucks . . .
   Posted: 9/17/2017 10:15:24 AM 
Miami attacks a defense with an aggressive downfield passing game. Will be a challenge for us.
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shabamon
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  Message Not Read  RE: Miami Sucks . . .
   Posted: 9/17/2017 10:26:45 AM 
Aggressive is about the last word I would use to describe Miami's offense, based on what I saw last night.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Miami Sucks . . .
   Posted: 9/17/2017 11:43:19 AM 
Every team we play that passes the ball adequately will be a challenge for our corners. I lost count of the number of times our corners did 360 degree turns losing sight of the QB, ball, and receiver.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Miami Sucks . . .
   Posted: 9/17/2017 2:29:02 PM 
Miami Head Coach blew the game!! He wanders around and had no concentration regarding field position, time on clock and play calling was just as bad. In fact
Cincinnati was just as bad.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Miami Sucks . . .
   Posted: 9/17/2017 7:36:46 PM 
shabamon wrote:
Aggressive is about the last word I would use to describe Miami's offense, based on what I saw last night.


They attempted to go down the field multiple times and defensively they got after it.....

They didn't lose yesterday because they weren't worse than Cincinnati. They lost because of a freshman and a coach (though video today showed him trying to call a timeout)
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  Message Not Read  RE: Miami Sucks . . .
   Posted: 9/17/2017 10:23:50 PM 
They had the game on the local Fox affiliate here in Cincinnati and I watched parts of it back and forth with the Louisville-Clemson game.

Miami was up 17-6 with the ball and driving with like 4 minutes to go so I just figured they would break the streak. Was shocked to see UC came all the way back to win last night!

Usually I always cheer for the MAC out of conference but I've been a UC fan since I was a kid and well, because Miami. Better days ahead for UC hopefully but Fickell has his work cut out for him cleaning up the Tuberville mess.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Miami Sucks . . .
   Posted: 9/17/2017 10:26:49 PM 
Panda wrote:
Miami Head Coach blew the game!! He wanders around and had no concentration regarding field position, time on clock and play calling was just as bad. In fact
Cincinnati was just as bad.


Agree.



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DXer
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  Message Not Read  RE: Miami Sucks . . .
   Posted: 9/18/2017 12:07:54 AM 
All I know is that when watching a Bowl game, or an inter-conference regular season game, on TV, 100% of the time the TV announcers will tell us that the referee crew is from such-and-such conference, Are the TV announcers somehow misinformed and the crews are actually part of a independent organization and that the TV announcers telling us that the crew is, say, an Atlantic Coast Conference crew is erroneous? I've heard them say it dozens and dozens of times over the years. I've also seen it many times in post-game newspaper articles, especially when there is a controversial call to report on.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Miami Sucks . . .
   Posted: 9/18/2017 1:11:30 PM 
Casper71 wrote:
Every team we play that passes the ball adequately will be a challenge for our corners. I lost count of the number of times our corners did 360 degree turns losing sight of the QB, ball, and receiver.


^^^ This has me concerned as well
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