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Alan Swank
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  Message Not Read  Friday night college football
   Posted: 9/8/2017 8:46:37 AM 
Interesting article in today's Dispatch.

http://www.dispatch.com/sports/20170908/big-ten-games-on-...
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MedinaCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Friday night college football
   Posted: 9/8/2017 8:59:40 AM 
While I agree that Friday nights are for HS football(at least in middle America), 6 games will not have a huge impact. The question is will 6 this year become 12 next year and so on.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Friday night college football
   Posted: 9/8/2017 10:40:09 AM 
That's what we said about Thursdays .... a few games won't matter.

Then it went to Tuesday .... Wednesday .... Thursday .... and now Friday.

I HATE IT.

Can't express that enough.

It kills more opportunities for fans to actually enjoy a game in person.

I know everything is for the almighty dollar ... but it still sucks.

I remember when Friday nights were for HS .... Saturday for College ... Sunday/Monday for NFL

NOW GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!
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Kinggeorge4
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  Message Not Read  RE: Friday night college football
   Posted: 9/8/2017 11:07:21 AM 
I do not really mind it. I do not go to local high school games as my daughter is no longer in school and I do not live where I grew up. I used to go but I haven't been to a high school game since 2005. I feel for the players who won't get to see the game.


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GEORGE

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  Message Not Read  RE: Friday night college football
   Posted: 9/8/2017 11:12:37 AM 
Kinggeorge4 wrote:
I do not really mind it. I do not go to local high school games as my daughter is no longer in school and I do not live where I grew up. I used to go but I haven't been to a high school game since 2005. I feel for the players who won't get to see the game.


It's not necessarily the HS aspect of a Friday night.

It's the robbery of the college football experience for fans that attend.

For me, it's more than just going thru the turnstile and sitting in the stands.

It's tailgating, socializing with other fans before the game, grabbing a bite (and beer) after the game....

It's really hard to do that on a weeknight when you A) live an hour away and B) have a job you can't just leave at noon

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  Message Not Read  RE: Friday night college football
   Posted: 9/8/2017 11:14:40 AM 
bshot44 wrote:
That's what we said about Thursdays .... a few games won't matter.

Then it went to Tuesday .... Wednesday .... Thursday .... and now Friday.

I HATE IT.

Can't express that enough.

It kills more opportunities for fans to actually enjoy a game in person.

I know everything is for the almighty dollar ... but it still sucks.

I remember when Friday nights were for HS .... Saturday for College ... Sunday/Monday for NFL

NOW GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!


It doesn't always happen, but I agree with you on this one. As a kid of around 11-15, Friday was definitely HS Football, Saturday was Buckeyes, and Sunday was Bengals. Always, every week in the fall. And it was a social event.

I'm not a fan of Friday night games, especially on the part of the B1G.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Friday night college football
   Posted: 9/8/2017 11:46:31 AM 
I love college football on any day of the week. The more games I can watch, the better. MACtion on Tuesday and Wednesday nights. A decent matchup w/ ranked teams on Thursday night is perfect. Add in some late night west coast games on Friday night (Boise, BYU, a PAC-12 game, etc) and then the usual slate on a Saturday.

I love that the Cats are in the FS1 spotlight tonight at Purdue. Great exposure and I get to attend without missing any other games today.

FWIW, I haven't attended a high school game since I was actually in high school. High school football isn't much of a thing for adults in Chicagoland. Zero problems with high school football getting upstaged by college ball.


What a day at the Convo.....Wow!

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  Message Not Read  RE: Friday night college football
   Posted: 9/8/2017 11:46:31 AM 
OU_Country wrote:
bshot44 wrote:
That's what we said about Thursdays .... a few games won't matter.

Then it went to Tuesday .... Wednesday .... Thursday .... and now Friday.

I HATE IT.

Can't express that enough.

It kills more opportunities for fans to actually enjoy a game in person.

I know everything is for the almighty dollar ... but it still sucks.

I remember when Friday nights were for HS .... Saturday for College ... Sunday/Monday for NFL

NOW GET OFF MY LAWN!!!!


It doesn't always happen, but I agree with you on this one. As a kid of around 11-15, Friday was definitely HS Football, Saturday was Buckeyes, and Sunday was Bengals. Always, every week in the fall. And it was a social event.

I'm not a fan of Friday night games, especially on the part of the B1G.



Even high schools are spreading out their schedules for TV exposure and, maybe, a few extra dollars. Locally, Ch. 53 has a weekly Thursday night HS game. ESPN shows live HS games anytime from Thursday through Sundays.

As for B10, with seven to 14 games each week they've realized that a Saturday-only schedule makes it almost impossible to keep all their TV outlets happy because they have games competing with one another. Even during conference season they'll usually have three noon games. SEC is finding the same thing. ACC and the other "P" conferences have scheduled Thursday or Friday games for years just for the TV exposure.


We will get by.
We will get by.
We will get by.
We will survive.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Friday night college football
   Posted: 9/8/2017 11:48:29 AM 
I usually still tailgate but with food prepared the night before and easy to reheat. But if you are an hour or more away, it would be harder. It has made us get a little more creative and it is not as long. But the aspect of watching other teams on tv, I like.


GO BOBCATS
GEORGE

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  Message Not Read  RE: Friday night college football
   Posted: 9/8/2017 12:03:01 PM 
I don't mind the weekday games, it's just the ubiquity that's ruined the excitement.

Allow me to use this subject to steer the conversation towards some of my pet peeves and beating of the horse opinions!

The Thursday night game used to feel like you were getting away with something. You were getting an extra college football game you'd never get to see otherwise. Like an early start to the weekend. A Thirsty Thursday without the headache for people no longer in college or too young to even know what they were missing.

Now there are four or five options on weeknights. The hype for Thursday games has been swallowed up by terrible NFL games. The same few power programs have set up shop on those Thursdays, so you get the same product, same match-ups year after year. Friday games just become background noise for most people at the bar, at a party or a get-together because they're rarely compelling. Hell, even the Noon slot on Saturday is pure garbage week-in and week-out. The Rutgers-Iowa Slot, is what it should be renamed.

College football will need to do some pruning over the next decade and learn to try to restore some semblance of excitement for its games. The NFL might need to kill either Thursday or Monday the way the ratings are headed.

Even MACtion lost its sheen when other conferences started putting games mid-week. (Oh and the conference went away from its Arena League scoring rates from that crazy era where Toledo would outscore Western 72-68 on a Wednesday night and the football geekdom was glued to it. The conference trended towards the staidness of Row The Boat and Beau Up The Middle. A gigantic mistake from an entertainment and recruiting standpoint, imo. Also, the rest of the country caught up to the grand experiment the smaller programs were running on offense and did it with better athletes. Yet another way mid-week football became just like weekend football.)

So, weekday football? It can work. But the product better be scarce or it better be different, a product you can't get anywhere else. A product that feels different, that feels special.

MACtion had a chance to be that. It just would've taken a Bill Veeck-type vision for the conference and the product. And it would've rankled many to see the conference sort of collude and have its style centrally managed. A sort of mandate to run the spread and score a bajillion points. Officials that let offenses do whatever they want. A sham, if you want to look at it that way. The notion is icky to me, too, but it might've been necessary to build a national following.But it would've made the product so much more marketable.

Oh, as for conflicting with high school football? The high school football product isn't being swallowed by college football games on Friday nights. That's ridiculous. It's being swallowed by societal changes, population re-alignments, medical research and the notion that if a kid isn't a D-1 recruit, he isn't worth watching. It's being swallowed by the small town being swallowed. Trying to reverse that is like trying to revitalize small-town downtown shopping as a national phenomenon. It's like trying to fight a tide. Good luck with that. It's better to understand where the tastes and sensibilities are headed and re-adjust budgets and expectations accordingly.

Maybe the high school football team isn't the focal point of pride for these towns anymore. Maybe that's not as awful as some may think it will be. Maybe they find something else. Or maybe they refuse and cling to what used to unite them but is no longer valued by the larger society and grumble.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Friday night college football
   Posted: 9/8/2017 2:08:27 PM 
Brian Smith wrote:
I don't mind the weekday games, it's just the ubiquity that's ruined the excitement.

Allow me to use this subject to steer the conversation towards some of my pet peeves and beating of the horse opinions!

The Thursday night game used to feel like you were getting away with something. You were getting an extra college football game you'd never get to see otherwise. Like an early start to the weekend. A Thirsty Thursday without the headache for people no longer in college or too young to even know what they were missing.

Now there are four or five options on weeknights. The hype for Thursday games has been swallowed up by terrible NFL games. The same few power programs have set up shop on those Thursdays, so you get the same product, same match-ups year after year. Friday games just become background noise for most people at the bar, at a party or a get-together because they're rarely compelling. Hell, even the Noon slot on Saturday is pure garbage week-in and week-out. The Rutgers-Iowa Slot, is what it should be renamed.

College football will need to do some pruning over the next decade and learn to try to restore some semblance of excitement for its games. The NFL might need to kill either Thursday or Monday the way the ratings are headed.

Even MACtion lost its sheen when other conferences started putting games mid-week. (Oh and the conference went away from its Arena League scoring rates from that crazy era where Toledo would outscore Western 72-68 on a Wednesday night and the football geekdom was glued to it. The conference trended towards the staidness of Row The Boat and Beau Up The Middle. A gigantic mistake from an entertainment and recruiting standpoint, imo. Also, the rest of the country caught up to the grand experiment the smaller programs were running on offense and did it with better athletes. Yet another way mid-week football became just like weekend football.)

So, weekday football? It can work. But the product better be scarce or it better be different, a product you can't get anywhere else. A product that feels different, that feels special.

MACtion had a chance to be that. It just would've taken a Bill Veeck-type vision for the conference and the product. And it would've rankled many to see the conference sort of collude and have its style centrally managed. A sort of mandate to run the spread and score a bajillion points. Officials that let offenses do whatever they want. A sham, if you want to look at it that way. The notion is icky to me, too, but it might've been necessary to build a national following.But it would've made the product so much more marketable.

Oh, as for conflicting with high school football? The high school football product isn't being swallowed by college football games on Friday nights. That's ridiculous. It's being swallowed by societal changes, population re-alignments, medical research and the notion that if a kid isn't a D-1 recruit, he isn't worth watching. It's being swallowed by the small town being swallowed. Trying to reverse that is like trying to revitalize small-town downtown shopping as a national phenomenon. It's like trying to fight a tide. Good luck with that. It's better to understand where the tastes and sensibilities are headed and re-adjust budgets and expectations accordingly.

Maybe the high school football team isn't the focal point of pride for these towns anymore. Maybe that's not as awful as some may think it will be. Maybe they find something else. Or maybe they refuse and cling to what used to unite them but is no longer valued by the larger society and grumble.

I agree, I would like to see no NFL on Thursday and only non-power 5 games on weekdays and try to get the exciting matchups. I used to enjoy the games I would not usually see on a Saturday.


GO BOBCATS
GEORGE

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  Message Not Read  RE: Friday night college football
   Posted: 9/8/2017 11:58:28 PM 
As with most things I am a traditionalist and would rather see high school games remain on Friday night and college games Saturday. I don't mind MAC Thursday, I actually prefer it to most of the NFL Thursday night games. The problem is that young people in college have far more options even in MAC college towns, where the thought of ESPN coming to Athens in the 1980s, seemed as remote to me and my friends as winning the lottery.

As far as high school football, I don't think much as changed; family and friends still turn out for games in cities, suburbs and small towns. They often go to see their kids, their relative's kids and or neighbor kids play.

In small towns the Friday night football game is the get together activity that draws people of all ages for the common purpose of socialization, certainly not for grumbling as was surmised earlier on this thread. Friday night football may have peaked, but it still has a way of bringing small towns together and hopefully that will never end. There is a lot to be learned from small towns who exhibit unity, purpose and clarity which come out in community activities such as Friday night Football.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Friday night college football
   Posted: 9/9/2017 12:08:00 AM 
Brian Smith wrote:
I don't mind the weekday games, it's just the ubiquity that's ruined the excitement.

Allow me to use this subject to steer the conversation towards some of my pet peeves and beating of the horse opinions!

The Thursday night game used to feel like you were getting away with something. You were getting an extra college football game you'd never get to see otherwise. Like an early start to the weekend. A Thirsty Thursday without the headache for people no longer in college or too young to even know what they were missing.

Now there are four or five options on weeknights. The hype for Thursday games has been swallowed up by terrible NFL games. The same few power programs have set up shop on those Thursdays, so you get the same product, same match-ups year after year. Friday games just become background noise for most people at the bar, at a party or a get-together because they're rarely compelling. Hell, even the Noon slot on Saturday is pure garbage week-in and week-out. The Rutgers-Iowa Slot, is what it should be renamed.

College football will need to do some pruning over the next decade and learn to try to restore some semblance of excitement for its games. The NFL might need to kill either Thursday or Monday the way the ratings are headed.

Even MACtion lost its sheen when other conferences started putting games mid-week. (Oh and the conference went away from its Arena League scoring rates from that crazy era where Toledo would outscore Western 72-68 on a Wednesday night and the football geekdom was glued to it. The conference trended towards the staidness of Row The Boat and Beau Up The Middle. A gigantic mistake from an entertainment and recruiting standpoint, imo. Also, the rest of the country caught up to the grand experiment the smaller programs were running on offense and did it with better athletes. Yet another way mid-week football became just like weekend football.)

So, weekday football? It can work. But the product better be scarce or it better be different, a product you can't get anywhere else. A product that feels different, that feels special.

MACtion had a chance to be that. It just would've taken a Bill Veeck-type vision for the conference and the product. And it would've rankled many to see the conference sort of collude and have its style centrally managed. A sort of mandate to run the spread and score a bajillion points. Officials that let offenses do whatever they want. A sham, if you want to look at it that way. The notion is icky to me, too, but it might've been necessary to build a national following.But it would've made the product so much more marketable.

Oh, as for conflicting with high school football? The high school football product isn't being swallowed by college football games on Friday nights. That's ridiculous. It's being swallowed by societal changes, population re-alignments, medical research and the notion that if a kid isn't a D-1 recruit, he isn't worth watching. It's being swallowed by the small town being swallowed. Trying to reverse that is like trying to revitalize small-town downtown shopping as a national phenomenon. It's like trying to fight a tide. Good luck with that. It's better to understand where the tastes and sensibilities are headed and re-adjust budgets and expectations accordingly.

Maybe the high school football team isn't the focal point of pride for these towns anymore. Maybe that's not as awful as some may think it will be. Maybe they find something else. Or maybe they refuse and cling to what used to unite them but is no longer valued by the larger society and grumble.


Good words that remind me how lame it is that there are no MAC Saturday games in November this year. Ain't nobody watching Buffalo at Ball State.
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