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Author Message MedinaCat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Lakewood, OH Post Count: 742 Status: Offline     Hugh Freeze Values Poll - Which of the following coaching transgressions do you find to be the LEAST repugnant?    Posted: 7/25/2017 10:26:22 AM  Hugh Freeze Values Poll - Which of the following coaching transgressions do you find to be the LEAST repugnant?   Looking the other way of suspected illegal drug use Facilitating/ignoring the use of PEDs Facilitating the use of paid escorts/prostitutes Facilitating or ignoring the exchange of cash or gifts to players and/or their families Ignoring or covering up violent criminal acts Coercing academics to adjust/fix grades   Please Register or Login to Vote   Show Results The TOS to Ole Miss thread took an interesting turn and got me to thinking about the nature of the violations and how they compare with other tomfoolery. Back to Top OUPride General User Member Since: 9/21/2010 Post Count: 574 Status: Offline     RE: Hugh Freeze Values Poll - Which of the following coaching transgressions do you find to be the LEAST repugnant?    Posted: 7/25/2017 11:31:32 AM  It has to be covering up violent acts. That's infinitely more serious than breaking NCAA violations through payments or academic fraud. The Paterno and Baylor scandals were infinitely worse than anything that SMU did. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,041 Status: Offline     RE: Hugh Freeze Values Poll - Which of the following coaching transgressions do you find to be the LEAST repugnant?    Posted: 7/25/2017 2:10:10 PM  http://tannerlectures.utah.edu/_documents/a-to-z/s/Stone9... Guy is the epitome of these values ;-) Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,470 Status: Offline     RE: Hugh Freeze Values Poll - Which of the following coaching transgressions do you find to be the LEAST repugnant?    Posted: 7/25/2017 2:46:56 PM  OUPride wrote: It has to be covering up violent acts. That's infinitely more serious than breaking NCAA violations through payments or academic fraud. The Paterno and Baylor scandals were infinitely worse than anything that SMU did. I think that the voting on this poll is seriously off, because some people (including me) did not read the poll carefully before we voted. The poll does not ask which is the WORST offense. The poll asks which is the LEAST offensive. All of the items in the poll are extremely repugnant. Unfortunately, what we end up with is a poll of no value. Some people read the poll correctly, and voted for what they thought was LEAST offensive. Others misread the poll, and voted for what they thought was MOST offensive. Therefore it's hard to make anything of the answers. I suggest that we start over, and erase this poll, and resubmit it, and this time, hopefully we'll all get that the poll is for LEAST offensive, not MOST. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Doc Bobcat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,246 Status: Offline     RE: Hugh Freeze Values Poll - Which of the following coaching transgressions do you find to be the LEAST repugnant?    Posted: 7/25/2017 3:14:30 PM  Well folks. It's the Dog Days of summer and you can tell iit at BA. On a more serious note. The Smiling Skull near the train station. Is that the old Roaring 20s? Skull a nice dive bar by the way. $1.25 PBR. Back to Top C Money General User Member Since: 8/28/2010 Post Count: 3,420 Status: Offline     RE: Hugh Freeze Values Poll - Which of the following coaching transgressions do you find to be the LEAST repugnant?    Posted: 7/25/2017 4:01:44 PM  Doc Bobcat wrote: Well folks. It's the Dog Days of summer and you can tell iit at BA. On a more serious note. The Smiling Skull near the train station. Is that the old Roaring 20s? Skull a nice dive bar by the way. $1.25 PBR. I only made it into the Skull once, on a (true) shuffle. I don't remember a whole lot about it, other than drinking out of mason jars. How about the new(ish) beer hall in the old W.G. Grinder's building? I tried stopping in last spring but it was closed. Worth trying again? Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,111 Status: Offline     RE: Hugh Freeze Values Poll - Which of the following coaching transgressions do you find to be the LEAST repugnant?    Posted: 7/25/2017 4:36:30 PM  L.C. wrote: OUPride wrote: It has to be covering up violent acts. That's infinitely more serious than breaking NCAA violations through payments or academic fraud. The Paterno and Baylor scandals were infinitely worse than anything that SMU did. I think that the voting on this poll is seriously off, because some people (including me) did not read the poll carefully before we voted. The poll does not ask which is the WORST offense. The poll asks which is the LEAST offensive. All of the items in the poll are extremely repugnant. Unfortunately, what we end up with is a poll of no value. Some people read the poll correctly, and voted for what they thought was LEAST offensive. Others misread the poll, and voted for what they thought was MOST offensive. Therefore it's hard to make anything of the answers. I suggest that we start over, and erase this poll, and resubmit it, and this time, hopefully we'll all get that the poll is for LEAST offensive, not MOST. Yep - I fell for that one too. Original poster - please delete and reword. Thanks. Back to Top mcbin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 951 Status: Offline     RE: Hugh Freeze Values Poll - Which of the following coaching transgressions do you find to be the LEAST repugnant?    Posted: 7/25/2017 5:57:46 PM  Ha. Well some of us can read :) Looks like about 50% so far... Back to Top mf279801 General User Member Since: 8/6/2010 Location: Newark, DE Post Count: 2,472 Status: Offline     RE: Hugh Freeze Values Poll - Which of the following coaching transgressions do you find to be the LEAST repugnant?    Posted: 7/25/2017 6:15:25 PM  Ahh yes, because all of the other BA polls are statistically sound ;) Back to Top Sam bobcat General User Member Since: 7/14/2015 Post Count: 633 Status: Offline     RE: Hugh Freeze Values Poll - Which of the following coaching transgressions do you find to be the LEAST repugnant?    Posted: 7/25/2017 6:27:51 PM  Facilitating or ignoring cash or gifts is the least repugnant of those offenses to me. I don't condone it but it doesn't bother me as much as some others. Especially ones that disregard the health and well being of the student athletes. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,041 Status: Offline     RE: Hugh Freeze Values Poll - Which of the following coaching transgressions do you find to be the LEAST repugnant?    Posted: 7/25/2017 6:57:30 PM  C Money wrote: Doc Bobcat wrote: Well folks. It's the Dog Days of summer and you can tell iit at BA. On a more serious note. The Smiling Skull near the train station. Is that the old Roaring 20s? Skull a nice dive bar by the way. $1.25 PBR. I only made it into the Skull once, on a (true) shuffle. I don't remember a whole lot about it, other than drinking out of mason jars. How about the new(ish) beer hall in the old W.G. Grinder's building? I tried stopping in last spring but it was closed. Worth trying again? Didn't stay in business 2 months Back to Top ou1982 General User Member Since: 3/5/2011 Post Count: 149 Status: Offline     RE: Hugh Freeze Values Poll - Which of the following coaching transgressions do you find to be the LEAST repugnant?    Posted: 7/25/2017 7:00:33 PM  i can't give a wink and a nod to anything listed in this poll. i'd want the head man\woman fired for any one of these transgressions. Back to Top C Money General User Member Since: 8/28/2010 Post Count: 3,420 Status: Offline     RE: Hugh Freeze Values Poll - Which of the following coaching transgressions do you find to be the LEAST repugnant?    Posted: 7/25/2017 7:15:08 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: Didn't stay in business 2 months Well, I guess that explains why it was closed. Last Edited: 7/25/2017 7:15:23 PM by C Money Back to Top 1stInConvo General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 44 Status: Offline     RE: Hugh Freeze Values Poll - Which of the following coaching transgressions do you find to be the LEAST repugnant?    Posted: 7/25/2017 9:13:02 PM  Trick question. I find them all repugnant, so one is no more or less than the others. In my view, repugnancy does not have levels of intensity when they are all bad. Like asking me which way of murdering someone is less deathly. I would have to add things nose-picking, slapping helmets, or having a mullet to find a least repugnant behavior. Or looking like a ferret. Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 5,107 Status: Offline     RE: Hugh Freeze Values Poll - Which of the following coaching transgressions do you find to be the LEAST repugnant?    Posted: 7/25/2017 9:53:56 PM  Ignoring personal known drug use. I'm sure every coach is guilty of that one if they've had a career over 10 years in the business. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,470 Status: Offline     RE: Hugh Freeze Values Poll - Which of the following coaching transgressions do you find to be the LEAST repugnant?    Posted: 7/25/2017 11:22:09 PM  Alan Swank wrote: Yep - I fell for that one too. Original poster - please delete and reword. Thanks. Well, three of us admit that we failed this reading test, but in reality it has to be much higher. I find it hard to believe that ten voters find covering up violent crimes least offensive, and another three aren't bothered by grade fixing. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,382 Status: Offline     RE: Hugh Freeze Values Poll - Which of the following coaching transgressions do you find to be the LEAST repugnant?    Posted: 7/26/2017 12:43:17 AM  L.C. wrote: Alan Swank wrote: Yep - I fell for that one too. Original poster - please delete and reword. Thanks. Well, three of us admit that we failed this reading test, but in reality it has to be much higher. I find it hard to believe that ten voters find covering up violent crimes least offensive, and another three aren't bothered by grade fixing. If confession is good for the soul, I admit that I failed the reading comprehension test also. I was just reading too fast, that's my excuse. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top OUPride General User Member Since: 9/21/2010 Post Count: 574 Status: Offline     RE: Hugh Freeze Values Poll - Which of the following coaching transgressions do you find to be the LEAST repugnant?    Posted: 7/26/2017 2:19:18 PM  L.C. wrote: Alan Swank wrote: Yep - I fell for that one too. Original poster - please delete and reword. Thanks. Well, three of us admit that we failed this reading test, but in reality it has to be much higher. I find it hard to believe that ten voters find covering up violent crimes least offensive, and another three aren't bothered by grade fixing. I failed it and thus voted for covering up violent acts. Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,463 Status: Offline     RE: Hugh Freeze Values Poll - Which of the following coaching transgressions do you find to be the LEAST repugnant?    Posted: 7/29/2017 3:52:46 PM  L.C. wrote: Alan Swank wrote: Yep - I fell for that one too. Original poster - please delete and reword. Thanks. Well, three of us admit that we failed this reading test, but in reality it has to be much higher. I find it hard to believe that ten voters find covering up violent crimes least offensive, and another three aren't bothered by grade fixing. I flunked the test, I confess. Last Edited: 7/29/2017 8:27:22 PM by colobobcat66 Back to Top Cats-22 General User Member Since: 9/30/2006 Post Count: 370 Status: Offline     RE: Hugh Freeze Values Poll - Which of the following coaching transgressions do you find to be the LEAST repugnant?    Posted: 7/30/2017 5:22:39 PM  Cash gifts to players is least repugnant. It's cheating, and coaches definitely shouldn't facilitate it or allow it. But if you had to commit one of these transgressions, gifts to players is the least objectionable...mainly because the rule you're breaking in that case is arguably unjust itself. 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