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Your top 6 states in terms of high school football recruiting. 1. Florida 2. Texas 3. California 4. Ohio 5. Georgia 6. Pennsylvania I don't get it. Back to Top Recovering Journalist General User Member Since: 8/17/2010 Location: Cleveland, OH Post Count: 1,851 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/2/2017 9:25:48 AM  Florida, Texas and California have tons of high school talent and bigger populations than Ohio. Florida and California also have fewer FBS schools than Ohio. They're just recruiting where the players are and where there's possibly less competition for players. Should not come as a surprise. Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,574 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/2/2017 9:32:30 AM  Great class. On paper, our best ever. I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top Shaq of the MAC General User Member Since: 2/15/2014 Post Count: 40 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/2/2017 9:38:49 AM  Recovering Journalist wrote: Florida, Texas and California have tons of high school talent and bigger populations than Ohio. Florida and California also have fewer FBS schools than Ohio. They're just recruiting where the players are and where there's possibly less competition for players. Should not come as a surprise. Less competition? Every big school in the country camps out in Florida. I'm just baffled as to why the current staff, who I like BTW, hasn't tried to create a pipeline to the Columbus area for 2-star and 3-star recruits that are not being courted by Ohio State. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,470 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/2/2017 9:49:19 AM  The number of recruits from in-state has varied widely over the years: Looking at just Freshmen, here's how the percentage from Ohio has varied: 2006 - 9 of 15 from Ohio 2007 - 9 of 20 from Ohio 2008 - 5 of 15 from Ohio 2009 - 3 of 17 from Ohio 2010 - 7 of 13 from Ohio 2011 - 11 of 21 from Ohio 2012 - 4 of 14 from Ohio 2013 - 8 of 18 from Ohio 2014 - 13 of 18 from Ohio 2015 - 7 of 16 from Ohio 2016 - 11 of 18 from Ohio 2017 - 2 of 19 from Ohio I attribute this year's drop to the loss of Coach George at a key point in the recruiting cycle. After he left, the number of recruits for June-July dropped well below the last couple years. Those recruits tend to be from Ohio. Last Edited: 2/2/2017 9:49:54 AM by L.C. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top . General User Member Since: 2/3/2005 Post Count: 2,997 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/2/2017 10:36:12 AM  It is not a problem to get a majority of recruits from Florida, Texas and California. Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,341 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/2/2017 11:48:41 AM  Shaq of the MAC wrote: Recovering Journalist wrote: Florida, Texas and California have tons of high school talent and bigger populations than Ohio. Florida and California also have fewer FBS schools than Ohio. They're just recruiting where the players are and where there's possibly less competition for players. Should not come as a surprise. Less competition? Every big school in the country camps out in Florida. I'm just baffled as to why the current staff, who I like BTW, hasn't tried to create a pipeline to the Columbus area for 2-star and 3-star recruits that are not being courted by Ohio State. Who do you have in mind that we might've missed? Is there a list of 2- or 3-star football players from Columbus...or anywhere in Ohio...that went to another G5 school or a lower-tier "P" school rather than Ohio? We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top Shaq of the MAC General User Member Since: 2/15/2014 Post Count: 40 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/2/2017 11:50:18 AM  Brian Smith wrote: It is not a problem to get a majority of recruits from Florida, Texas and California. I understand that. But would you fly to Texas to pick an apple when we have orchards right here in Ohio? Back to Top UpSan Bobcat General User Member Since: 8/30/2005 Location: Upper Sandusky, OH Post Count: 3,800 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/2/2017 11:58:25 AM  Shaq of the MAC wrote: Brian Smith wrote: It is not a problem to get a majority of recruits from Florida, Texas and California. I understand that. But would you fly to Texas to pick an apple when we have orchards right here in Ohio? In this analogy, I'd say, there are a lot more people seeking the same kind of two- and three-star apples in Ohio, so they aren't as easy to come by. Most the people looking in Florida, Texas and California are looking for four- and five-star apples, leaving the two- and three-star apples. Back to Top Ohio69 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,037 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/2/2017 12:45:53 PM  http://www.sbnation.com/college-football-recruiting/2015/... I thought the chart in the above was interesting. Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?..... Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,463 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/2/2017 12:53:49 PM  FWIW, using 247sports rankings for Ohio top 100 recruits only: Ohio 1 recruit-#45 recruit in State was top recruit picked Toledo-11recruits BG-3 recruits Akron-3 recruits Marshall-1 recruit Cincinnati -10 recruits including #21 and 23 in State. Only G-5 w/ recruit above Ohio Buffalo-1 recruit Kent -4 recruits Miami-4 recruits Ball-1 recruit EMU-1 recruit Back to Top bshot44 General User Member Since: 2/12/2012 Post Count: 2,211 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/2/2017 1:17:50 PM  The Optimist wrote: Great class. On paper, our best ever. I've seen this a few times from different folks. Why is that? Just curious, what makes this the best class ever? Back to Top bigtillyoopsupsideurhead General User Member Since: 12/1/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 1,926 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/2/2017 2:38:36 PM  colobobcat66 wrote: FWIW, using 247sports rankings for Ohio top 100 recruits only: Ohio 1 recruit-#45 recruit in State was top recruit picked Toledo-11recruits BG-3 recruits Akron-3 recruits Marshall-1 recruit Cincinnati -10 recruits including #21 and 23 in State. Only G-5 w/ recruit above Ohio Buffalo-1 recruit Kent -4 recruits Miami-4 recruits Ball-1 recruit EMU-1 recruit Cincinnati didn't recruit Ohio a lot under Tuberville, but now Fickle is targeting Ohio big time. They nabbed two Ohio players we were in on in the last week or so. Plus we lost the Ohio RB to Indiana recently. I don't think we are ignoring Ohio, there is just a lot of competition so we are looking elsewhere at other football rich regions. Back to Top OUcats82 General User Member Since: 1/9/2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 1,862 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/2/2017 2:42:39 PM  They can come from Middle Earth, Melmac, or New Mexico for all I care if they are good players, will work hard in the classroom, and perhaps most of all, represent our university with class and self respect. Ohio-The State University Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,470 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/2/2017 3:03:39 PM  bshot44 wrote: The Optimist wrote: Great class. On paper, our best ever. I've seen this a few times from different folks. Why is that? Just curious, what makes this the best class ever? Only time will tell if they are the best class ever. The one thing we do know is that it's the most "known" class. Virtually all of the players in this class had a lot of other offers. Many other classes had mostly players with few or no offers. That didn't mean they were bad players, just that they weren't easy for us, as fans, to celebrate. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top . General User Member Since: 2/3/2005 Post Count: 2,997 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/2/2017 3:15:16 PM  UpSan Bobcat wrote: Shaq of the MAC wrote: Brian Smith wrote: It is not a problem to get a majority of recruits from Florida, Texas and California. I understand that. But would you fly to Texas to pick an apple when we have orchards right here in Ohio? In this analogy, I'd say, there are a lot more people seeking the same kind of two- and three-star apples in Ohio, so they aren't as easy to come by. Most the people looking in Florida, Texas and California are looking for four- and five-star apples, leaving the two- and three-star apples. The analogy doesn't work at all, because most of us buy our apples from wherever they are cheapest and easiest to procure. Clearly, the Ohio coaching staff has found it easier to get their apples from the states of Florida, California and Texas. Now, you can want us to buy our apples from Ohio for some sort of civic pride or duty, but that's not a very efficient way to get our apples. (Also, ironically, the best-tasting apple, the Sweetango, isn't grown in the state of Ohio. The University of Minnesota, which owns the marketing rights to the apple, uses cooperative farmers from Michigan and Wisconsin to grow its apples for the midwestern markets) Back to Top bshot44 General User Member Since: 2/12/2012 Post Count: 2,211 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/2/2017 3:36:13 PM  L.C. wrote: bshot44 wrote: The Optimist wrote: Great class. On paper, our best ever. I've seen this a few times from different folks. Why is that? Just curious, what makes this the best class ever? Only time will tell if they are the best class ever. The one thing we do know is that it's the most "known" class. Virtually all of the players in this class had a lot of other offers. Many other classes had mostly players with few or no offers. That didn't mean they were bad players, just that they weren't easy for us, as fans, to celebrate. I think you're right..only time will tell. I'm not huge into recruiting.... Tons of these guys either never pan out or never even end up on campus. Seems like a lot of wasted energy to me to dive in and get involved. I understand the importance, for sure. But not from a fan's perspective. It's obviously vital for a program to succeed. I have a hard enough time watching college and NFL football...don't need to be sifting thru HS footage. Wake me when they take the field at Peden and I'll pay attention. I once heard Bob Knight asked about recruiting, etc. He said "Come talk to me in four years and I'll tell how good they are" Seems right to me. Back to Top Shaq of the MAC General User Member Since: 2/15/2014 Post Count: 40 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/2/2017 4:06:28 PM  Brendan Bordner, Hilliard Bradley, 6-5, 240, DE, Rutgers Gunnar Daniel, Marysville, 5-11, 235, C, Ball State Nick DeWolfe, Hilliard Bradley, 6-3, 270, DT, Air Force Kieran Douglas, Pickerington Central, 6-2, 215, LB, Army Morgan Ellison, Pickerington Central, 6-2, 230, RB, Indiana Darrick Forrest, Walnut Ridge, 6-0, 170, DB, Cincinnati Ben Frye, Dublin Coffman, 6-3, 248, DE, Duke Joseph Greenwood, Worthington Christian, 6-0, 200, LS, Ball State Ty Henderson, Dublin Jerome, 6-0, 165, WR/KR, Central Michigan Brenden Knox, Franklin Heights, 6-0, 205, RB, Marshall Dominique Long, Westerville South, 6-2, 190, DB, Michigan State Sam Neverov, Dublin Jerome, 6-4, 290, OL, Bowling Green Jeff Nogaj, Johnstown, 6-5, 290, OL, Iowa State Will Phillis, Hilliard Bradley, 6-4, 225, QB, Kent State Trey Pugh, Jonathan Alder, 6-5, 230, TE, Northwestern Brad Robbins, Westerville South, 6-2, 180, Michigan Drew Rosi, Olentangy Liberty, 6-4, 255, TE, Toledo Nathan Snyder, Marysville, 6-4, 220, P, Ball State Caleb Stoneburner, Dublin Coffman, 6-4, 205, WR, Boston College Carson Van Lynn, Worthington Kilbourne, 6-6, 245, DE, Pittsburgh Brendon White, Olentangy Liberty, 6-2, 205, WR, Ohio State Preferred walk-ons J.J Cooper Jr., Reynoldsburg, 6-4, 190, WR, Ohio State Dominic DiMaccio, DeSales, 5-9, 160, K, Missouri Chris Stoll, DeSales, 6-3, 230, LS, Penn State Walk-on Zach Waddle, Grove City, Ohio State --------------------------------------------------------- Day 1 Columbus area signings. With the new highway and short distance between Athens and Columbus - I just don't see how or why Ohio University doesn't have a connection with the central district athlete. I know Saul is starting to look into Columbus for players, but the football program has not been able to create any sort of connection what so ever. Back to Top Buckeye to Bobcat General User Member Since: 9/10/2013 Post Count: 1,803 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/2/2017 4:09:22 PM  bigtillyoopsupsideurhead wrote: colobobcat66 wrote: FWIW, using 247sports rankings for Ohio top 100 recruits only: Ohio 1 recruit-#45 recruit in State was top recruit picked Toledo-11recruits BG-3 recruits Akron-3 recruits Marshall-1 recruit Cincinnati -10 recruits including #21 and 23 in State. Only G-5 w/ recruit above Ohio Buffalo-1 recruit Kent -4 recruits Miami-4 recruits Ball-1 recruit EMU-1 recruit Cincinnati didn't recruit Ohio a lot under Tuberville, but now Fickle is targeting Ohio big time. They nabbed two Ohio players we were in on in the last week or so. Plus we lost the Ohio RB to Indiana recently. I don't think we are ignoring Ohio, there is just a lot of competition so we are looking elsewhere at other football rich regions. There's always been competition in Ohio. Nothing has changed in regards to that. What hasn't changed either is our lack of recruiting in Ohio. I said it before and will say it again, we suck at recruiting Ohio. I got ripped for mentioning it on another thread but after 12 years you would think Frank, Tim, and Jimmy could actually have a couple hot beds in the state they mine. How is it that Saul and Co. can have so many inroads in Ohio in less than 3 years yet our football program has only two Ohio "scholarship" commits this year? Heck, our basketball program landed as many last year. So yeah, one of the best states for football talent, cant go get em here, nor Western Pa shockingly. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,470 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/2/2017 8:16:25 PM  This exact discussion is also happening in the recruiting forum. There, a couple other points came up: 1. This was the year of the temporary rule against off-campus football camps. Ohio's normal outreach to in-state players is through the off-campus camps around the state, and they normally add a lot of commitments from Ohio players in June-July as a result of the camps. 2. It was reportedly a poor year for Ohio recruits. (Next year is expected to be a strong one.) Other schools, such as Ohio State, also recruited less Ohio players than normal. Only Toledo really had a lot of in-state recruits. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Cats-22 General User Member Since: 9/30/2006 Post Count: 370 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/2/2017 8:36:09 PM  OUcats82 wrote: They can come from Middle Earth, Melmac, or New Mexico for all I care if they are good players, will work hard in the classroom, and perhaps most of all, represent our university with class and self respect. Melmac recruits would probably try to eat Rufus. Otherwise I agree. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,059 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ... (NT)    Posted: 2/2/2017 10:18:16 PM  Last Edited: 2/2/2017 10:21:23 PM by BillyTheCat Back to Top Panda General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Post Count: 280 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/3/2017 10:33:51 AM  It is my opinion that some of the apples in Ohio that we were offering went to Cincinnati. BGSU picked up a good lineman from Westerville North at the last minute, but not sure we offered as he was going to Youngstown.(I think we fell asleep on this one). Good class, hopefully the QB from Canada is as good as projected. WE NEED HELP Panda Back to Top 89Cat General User Member Since: 9/12/2011 Post Count: 64 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/3/2017 11:17:43 AM  Cats-22 wrote: OUcats82 wrote: They can come from Middle Earth, Melmac, or New Mexico for all I care if they are good players, will work hard in the classroom, and perhaps most of all, represent our university with class and self respect. Melmac recruits would probably try to eat Rufus. Otherwise I agree. This made me chuckle, I had an Alf poster in my room at the College Inn. Back to Top OhioBobcat General User Member Since: 1/20/2006 Post Count: 1,618 Status: Offline     RE: 'Ohio' University ... but ...    Posted: 2/3/2017 11:45:45 AM  OUcats82 wrote: They can come from Middle Earth, Melmac, or New Mexico for all I care if they are good players, will work hard in the classroom, and perhaps most of all, represent our university with class and self respect. This. Who the heck cares where they come from? 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