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Fleck to Minnesota as they fired their coach over his "unhelpful" remarks about the player boycott. FootballScoop says not going to happen for what that's worth. Back to Top Ohio69 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,037 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/3/2017 6:32:31 PM  Man. Brutal situation for him. I don't think he should have been fired. Administrations already seem to think coaches have 100% control of their players. But, his players sure were not Boy Scouts. Last Edited: 1/3/2017 6:33:54 PM by Ohio69 Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?..... Back to Top Pete Chouteau General User Member Since: 11/17/2004 Location: You Can't See Me Post Count: 1,639 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/3/2017 6:36:11 PM  Program needs a cultural change. Fleck fits that bill. Back to Top bigtillyoopsupsideurhead General User Member Since: 12/1/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 1,926 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/3/2017 6:42:14 PM  Chip Kelly to Minnesota? If he wants to be a head coach next season this might be his only shot. Back to Top OhioStunter General User Member Since: 2/18/2005 Location: Chicago Post Count: 2,516 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/3/2017 7:18:11 PM  Ohio69 wrote: Man. Brutal situation for him. I don't think he should have been fired. Administrations already seem to think coaches have 100% control of their players. But, his players sure were not Boy Scouts. I don't think that was the reason. I think it was because he took the side of the players vs. the administration in that situation. I could see Fleck doing the same thing. Chip Kelley is interesting. Two former SF 49ers head coaches going at it in the Big Ten? Back to Top catfan28 General User Member Since: 6/11/2011 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 1,503 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/3/2017 10:49:06 PM  This seems plausible to me. RTB in the Land of 10,000 lakes? Hmmmm... Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,196 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/4/2017 7:39:07 AM  I doubt Minnesota would want to go the MAC route again (Kill). Chip Kelly would really shake things up in that division. Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,066 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/4/2017 8:07:45 AM  Kill did a pretty damn good job for them before his health issues overwhelmed him. Back to Top Mike Coleman Administrator Member Since: 12/21/2004 Location: Near the Pristine Sandy Shores of Lake Erie, OH Post Count: 1,611 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/4/2017 9:13:29 AM  PJ and Claeys were on the NIU staff together for two or three years under Kill and I imagine are friends. I don't think this is a fit. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,113 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/4/2017 9:16:19 AM  OhioStunter wrote: Ohio69 wrote: Man. Brutal situation for him. I don't think he should have been fired. Administrations already seem to think coaches have 100% control of their players. But, his players sure were not Boy Scouts. I don't think that was the reason. I think it was because he took the side of the players vs. the administration in that situation. I could see Fleck doing the same thing. Chip Kelley is interesting. Two former SF 49ers head coaches going at it in the Big Ten? It was plain and simple - in some people's minds he came down on the wrong side of sexual harassment. That will cost you your job everyday. Back to Top Buckeye to Bobcat General User Member Since: 9/10/2013 Post Count: 1,803 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/4/2017 10:14:07 AM  Minnesota is a mess. If anyone takes that job, they better acknowledge the AD and University President that hired them will be gone in about 2 years. I'll save ya the guesswork, essentially he'll be auditioning for the new AD with maybe one year before they want to bring in their chosen guy. It gets annoying to say the least. Back to Top Buckeye to Bobcat General User Member Since: 9/10/2013 Post Count: 1,803 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/4/2017 10:16:41 AM  Alan Swank wrote: OhioStunter wrote: Ohio69 wrote: Man. Brutal situation for him. I don't think he should have been fired. Administrations already seem to think coaches have 100% control of their players. But, his players sure were not Boy Scouts. I don't think that was the reason. I think it was because he took the side of the players vs. the administration in that situation. I could see Fleck doing the same thing. Chip Kelley is interesting. Two former SF 49ers head coaches going at it in the Big Ten? It was plain and simple - in some people's minds he came down on the wrong side of sexual harassment. That will cost you your job everyday. Well it's either side with your players and keep their trust or not side with them at all, lose the faith of the locker room, and then get fired because the players mutiny against you which make you look worse and ultimately get fired within the next year or two or heck, even be asked to resign right on the spot because you "lost the locker room." That coach was put in a no-win situation and would love to see someone else handle that situation differently. I say it like this, if you knew your employee was innocent and had a situation occur, would you side with him or sell him out? Back to Top Ohio69 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,037 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/4/2017 10:22:46 AM  Alan Swank wrote: OhioStunter wrote: Ohio69 wrote: Man. Brutal situation for him. I don't think he should have been fired. Administrations already seem to think coaches have 100% control of their players. But, his players sure were not Boy Scouts. I don't think that was the reason. I think it was because he took the side of the players vs. the administration in that situation. I could see Fleck doing the same thing. Chip Kelley is interesting. Two former SF 49ers head coaches going at it in the Big Ten? It was plain and simple - in some people's minds he came down on the wrong side of sexual harassment. That will cost you your job everyday. Well, this is definitely true. And, hard to disagree with. The more I think about it the more I like that the Minnesota President basically told the players that their behavior was deplorable and unacceptable regardless of whether charges were filed. Last Edited: 1/4/2017 10:23:26 AM by Ohio69 Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?..... Back to Top mf279801 General User Member Since: 8/6/2010 Location: Newark, DE Post Count: 2,472 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/4/2017 10:52:11 AM  Alan Swank wrote: OhioStunter wrote: Ohio69 wrote: Man. Brutal situation for him. I don't think he should have been fired. Administrations already seem to think coaches have 100% control of their players. But, his players sure were not Boy Scouts. I don't think that was the reason. I think it was because he took the side of the players vs. the administration in that situation. I could see Fleck doing the same thing. Chip Kelley is interesting. Two former SF 49ers head coaches going at it in the Big Ten? It was plain and simple - in some people's minds he came down on the wrong side of sexual harassment. That will cost you your job everyday. Sexual assault would be a better description, based on the University's report and the allegations Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,113 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/4/2017 11:06:28 AM  mf279801 wrote: Alan Swank wrote: OhioStunter wrote: Ohio69 wrote: Man. Brutal situation for him. I don't think he should have been fired. Administrations already seem to think coaches have 100% control of their players. But, his players sure were not Boy Scouts. I don't think that was the reason. I think it was because he took the side of the players vs. the administration in that situation. I could see Fleck doing the same thing. Chip Kelley is interesting. Two former SF 49ers head coaches going at it in the Big Ten? It was plain and simple - in some people's minds he came down on the wrong side of sexual harassment. That will cost you your job everyday. Sexual assault would be a better description, based on the University's report and the allegations True. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,059 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/4/2017 11:31:45 AM  SBH wrote: Kill did a pretty damn good job for them before his health issues overwhelmed him. +1 and for someone to suggest otherwise has paid little to no attention. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,196 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/4/2017 11:43:06 AM  BillyTheCat wrote: SBH wrote: Kill did a pretty damn good job for them before his health issues overwhelmed him. +1 and for someone to suggest otherwise has paid little to no attention. I liked what Kill did there I just think it's rare a school goes back to the same well again for coaching talent. And as someone else mentioned Fleck and Claeys are connected. Back to Top MedinaCat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Lakewood, OH Post Count: 742 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/5/2017 10:21:47 PM  Yep Back to Top Ted Thompson Administrator Member Since: 11/11/2004 Location: MAC Play Post Count: 7,658 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/5/2017 10:22:06 PM  Local TV reporting Fleck to Minnesota - 6 years, $21M. Follow Ohio Football recruiting on the BobcatAttack.com football recruiting database. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,470 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/6/2017 12:01:42 AM  Ted Thompson wrote: Local TV reporting Fleck to Minnesota - 6 years, $21M. Good luck to him. I really thought he'd get a better job than that. Minnesota was a power a hundred years ago, but has been pretty irrelevant for the last 50. I think Fleck can win there, however, and the West of the B1G is pretty wide open right now. Wisconsin is the power, followed by Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, and Northwestern, with the order varying by year, and then Illinois and Purdue bringing up the rear. Last Edited: 1/6/2017 12:02:07 AM by L.C. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Bcat2 General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 4,295 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/6/2017 7:20:58 AM  If Broncos "Row the Boat," Golden Gophers will .....? "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,196 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/6/2017 7:31:28 AM  There's 10,000 lakes to row his boat in. Good luck to PJ. Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,463 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/6/2017 8:43:58 AM  L.C. wrote: Ted Thompson wrote: Local TV reporting Fleck to Minnesota - 6 years, $21M. Good luck to him. I really thought he'd get a better job than that. Minnesota was a power a hundred years ago, but has been pretty irrelevant for the last 50. I think Fleck can win there, however, and the West of the B1G is pretty wide open right now. Wisconsin is the power, followed by Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, and Northwestern, with the order varying by year, and then Illinois and Purdue bringing up the rear. I'm thinking that this could be a good stepping stone for PJ. If he does well there, he could get a really good job next. This guy is 36 or so, he has a bright future if he doesn't flame out. Just think how many games he could win as a head coach if he can keep up his entusiasm. He is one heck of a motivator and his recruiting prowess is off the chart. It will be interesting to see if he can keep that up at the next level. I think he will. Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,635 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/6/2017 9:27:04 AM  colobobcat66 wrote: L.C. wrote: Ted Thompson wrote: Local TV reporting Fleck to Minnesota - 6 years, $21M. Good luck to him. I really thought he'd get a better job than that. Minnesota was a power a hundred years ago, but has been pretty irrelevant for the last 50. I think Fleck can win there, however, and the West of the B1G is pretty wide open right now. Wisconsin is the power, followed by Nebraska, Iowa, Minnesota, and Northwestern, with the order varying by year, and then Illinois and Purdue bringing up the rear. I'm thinking that this could be a good stepping stone for PJ. If he does well there, he could get a really good job next. This guy is 36 or so, he has a bright future if he doesn't flame out. Just think how many games he could win as a head coach if he can keep up his entusiasm. He is one heck of a motivator and his recruiting prowess is off the chart. It will be interesting to see if he can keep that up at the next level. I think he will. He took the wrong job, he won't be able to get the kids he needs to win the B1G Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,470 Status: Offline     RE: PJF to Minnesota    Posted: 1/6/2017 9:27:47 AM  colobobcat66 wrote: I'm thinking that this could be a good stepping stone for PJ. If he does well there, he could get a really good job next. This guy is 36 or so, he has a bright future if he doesn't flame out. Just think how many games he could win as a head coach if he can keep up his entusiasm. He is one heck of a motivator and his recruiting prowess is off the chart. It will be interesting to see if he can keep that up at the next level. I think he will. It's always possible, but I think the only person that ever coached there and moved on was Lou Holtz, who put in two years there. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 25  of 89 Posts Jump to Page:   1 | 2 | 3 | 4    Next > View Other 'Ohio Football' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 198 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 197 Guests 1 Registered User:   Bobcat Love There are no other users looking at this page.

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