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He would be great for us! Back to Top Buckeye to Bobcat General User Member Since: 9/10/2013 Post Count: 1,803 Status: Offline     RE: Stephen Collier (OSU)    Posted: 1/1/2017 7:48:29 PM  I really need to use my inside scoop to see if possible. Back to Top Deciduous Forest Cat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Ohio Post Count: 4,411 Status: Offline     RE: Stephen Collier (OSU)    Posted: 1/2/2017 11:52:59 AM  Let me get this straight...osu, who can't throw the the ball with their starter, has a 4th string grad transfer and we want him? Back to Top MonroeClassmate General User Member Since: 8/31/2010 Post Count: 2,088 Status: Offline     RE: Stephen Collier (OSU)    Posted: 1/2/2017 12:01:40 PM  Red shirted season and out by injury season. Resident expert: BillytheCat, if this young man graduates with a year left, is there history of a graduate transfer having two years to play if granted a medical red shirt? Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,635 Status: Offline     RE: Stephen Collier (OSU)    Posted: 1/2/2017 12:12:40 PM  I believe he and Zaire could apply for medical redshirts. I believe Burrow and Collier are better passers than JT. Urban hasn't developed a good NFL QB since Alex Smith. Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,196 Status: Offline     RE: Stephen Collier (OSU)    Posted: 1/2/2017 3:36:29 PM  I used to think this board was smarter than this. Keep grasping for straws. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,059 Status: Offline     RE: Stephen Collier (OSU)    Posted: 1/2/2017 4:46:13 PM  MonroeClassmate wrote: Red shirted season and out by injury season. Resident expert: BillytheCat, if this young man graduates with a year left, is there history of a graduate transfer having two years to play if granted a medical red shirt? You would have no clue on the granting of a 6th year until after the completion of eligibility.the NCAA has gotten more lienent over the past few years on 6th years. Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,635 Status: Offline     RE: Stephen Collier (OSU)    Posted: 1/2/2017 6:09:38 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: MonroeClassmate wrote: Red shirted season and out by injury season. Resident expert: BillytheCat, if this young man graduates with a year left, is there history of a graduate transfer having two years to play if granted a medical red shirt? You would have no clue on the granting of a 6th year until after the completion of eligibility.the NCAA has gotten more lienent over the past few years on 6th years. +1 Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top OhioBobcat General User Member Since: 1/20/2006 Post Count: 1,618 Status: Offline     RE: Stephen Collier (OSU)    Posted: 1/2/2017 11:42:07 PM  I'm not understanding all of these hopes and wishes for all these transfers to come to Ohio. Are people wanting Ohio to knock Akron of its perch? First people dig at Akron for all of their transfers, then hope for them themselves? Speaking of which, how have all of those transfers panned out for Akron in recent years anyway? Not very well. Akron's become a graveyard for many of them and they've had very little impact. Many of them were band aids that couldn't stop the bleeding. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,196 Status: Offline     RE: Stephen Collier (OSU)    Posted: 1/3/2017 7:43:45 AM  OhioBobcat wrote: I'm not understanding all of these hopes and wishes for all these transfers to come to Ohio. Are people wanting Ohio to knock Akron of its perch? First people dig at Akron for all of their transfers, then hope for them themselves? Speaking of which, how have all of those transfers panned out for Akron in recent years anyway? Not very well. Akron's become a graveyard for many of them and they've had very little impact. Many of them were band aids that couldn't stop the bleeding. +1 If the program is in as good of shape as people say on here, the QB position shouldn't be a problem next year or years to come. Back to Top C Money General User Member Since: 8/28/2010 Post Count: 3,420 Status: Offline     RE: Stephen Collier (OSU)    Posted: 1/3/2017 8:10:37 AM  GoCats105 wrote: If the program is in as good of shape as people say on here, the QB position shouldn't be a problem next year or years to come. IF. Some believe that the staff's failure (inability?) to recruit and develop a high quality QB is what prevents the program from taking the next step. We shall see. Back to Top ExCat21 General User Member Since: 9/29/2014 Post Count: 1,129 Status: Offline     RE: Stephen Collier (OSU)    Posted: 1/3/2017 9:16:09 AM  Instead of Collier (unproven 5th yr grad), I would still play Q Maxwell who has in-game experience and has ran our system for 2 yrs. Only real transfer worth considering is Malik Zaire or Max Browne (who Darnold beat out at USC). Browne would have 2 or 3 to play. UCONNs coach got canned but Im not sure if they have any QB worth looking at. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,470 Status: Offline     RE: Stephen Collier (OSU)    Posted: 1/3/2017 9:59:42 AM  GoCats105 wrote: OhioBobcat wrote: I'm not understanding all of these hopes and wishes for all these transfers to come to Ohio. Are people wanting Ohio to knock Akron of its perch? First people dig at Akron for all of their transfers, then hope for them themselves? Speaking of which, how have all of those transfers panned out for Akron in recent years anyway? Not very well. Akron's become a graveyard for many of them and they've had very little impact. Many of them were band aids that couldn't stop the bleeding. +1 If the program is in as good of shape as people say on here, the QB position shouldn't be a problem next year or years to come. I make a distinction between "next year" and "years to come". If the situation at QB is improving, that doesn't mean it is instantly cured. Yes, let's say that Maxwell works all spring and summer and by fall he is playing like Big Ben, and that in the next three years he never gets hurt. Then, yes, there is no need for transfers. Let's say that Rourke comes in and he's the next Johnny Manziel (at the college level), and again, he never gets hurt. Again, we don't need a transfer. The same goes for Keszei, or if Duckworth suddenly surges to the top. It doesn't always work that way, however. More than likely Keszei will redshirt next year. It's possible that Duckworth will never gel into starter material. That gets you down to two quarterbacks competing for the starting job, Maxwell and Rourke, both of which may need another year of development time, or both of which might get hurt. I, for one, like to see at least 3 quarterbacks in the running for the starting job, just in case. If a transfer is added this year, that gives you 3 players, Maxwell, Rourke, and the transfer. Then the following year you have Maxwell, Rourke, and Keszei. If they keep adding quality recruits, and the players they have keep developing, then the situation MAY be fine for many "years to come". As for "next year", I personally feel like a little extra depth will be a good thing. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,635 Status: Offline     RE: Stephen Collier (OSU)    Posted: 1/3/2017 10:02:27 AM  L.C. wrote: GoCats105 wrote: OhioBobcat wrote: I'm not understanding all of these hopes and wishes for all these transfers to come to Ohio. Are people wanting Ohio to knock Akron of its perch? First people dig at Akron for all of their transfers, then hope for them themselves? Speaking of which, how have all of those transfers panned out for Akron in recent years anyway? Not very well. Akron's become a graveyard for many of them and they've had very little impact. Many of them were band aids that couldn't stop the bleeding. +1 If the program is in as good of shape as people say on here, the QB position shouldn't be a problem next year or years to come. I make a distinction between "next year" and "years to come". If the situation at QB is improving, that doesn't mean it is instantly cured. Yes, let's say that Maxwell works all spring and summer and by fall he is playing like Big Ben, and that in the next three years he never gets hurt. Then, yes, there is no need for transfers. Let's say that Rourke comes in and he's the next Johnny Manziel (at the college level), and again, he never gets hurt. Again, we don't need a transfer. The same goes for Keszei, or if Duckworth suddenly surges to the top. It doesn't always work that way, however. More than likely Keszei will redshirt next year. It's possible that Duckworth will never gel into starter material. That gets you down to two quarterbacks competing for the starting job, Maxwell and Rourke, both of which may need another year of development time, or both of which might get hurt. I, for one, like to see at least 3 quarterbacks in the running for the starting job, just in case. If a transfer is added this year, that gives you 3 players, Maxwell, Rourke, and the transfer. Then the following year you have Maxwell, Rourke, and Keszei. If they keep adding quality recruits, and the players they have keep developing, then the situation MAY be fine for many "years to come". As for "next year", I personally feel like a little extra depth will be a good thing. +1 Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,059 Status: Offline     RE: Stephen Collier (OSU)    Posted: 1/3/2017 11:52:52 AM  OhioBobcat wrote: I'm not understanding all of these hopes and wishes for all these transfers to come to Ohio. Are people wanting Ohio to knock Akron of its perch? First people dig at Akron for all of their transfers, then hope for them themselves? Speaking of which, how have all of those transfers panned out for Akron in recent years anyway? Not very well. Akron's become a graveyard for many of them and they've had very little impact. Many of them were band aids that couldn't stop the bleeding. We also have a higher number of JUCO's this year than normal. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,470 Status: Offline     RE: Stephen Collier (OSU)    Posted: 1/3/2017 12:20:36 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: We also have a higher number of JUCO's this year than normal. JUCOs and transfers by year, 2006-present: 2006 - Juco: Goff, Nwokocha; Xfers: Bower, Hinton 2007 - Juco: Scott, Ejike; Xfers: Braunstein, Mooney, Carter, Flintall, Olyaie 2008 - Juco: Dawson, Jackson, Tafua, Moncrief; Xfers: Goulet 2009 - Juco: Pinder, D. Brown; xfers: Bates, Gross 2010 - Juco: Leftwich, Leftwich, Morales, Ashley(no show) Xfer: Prior 2011 - Juco: Knight, Spivey, Denton; xfers; Blankenship, Roback 2012 - Juco: Edmond, Wells, Branz, Waters; Xfers: K Smith 2013 - Juco: Tautuaiki, McLeod; Xfers: Asher, Talbert 2014 - Juco: Layton, Boland, Bonnstetter; xfers: C. Wilson, Bradley 2015 - Juco: Robbins, Anderson, Cooper xfers: Heitzman, Krizancic 2016 - Juco: Miller; xfers: Strobel, Houchins 2017 - Juco: Newton, Haas, Rourke; xfers: ????? The average is 2.7 Jucos and 2 transfers. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,059 Status: Offline     RE: Stephen Collier (OSU)    Posted: 1/3/2017 12:51:23 PM  L.C. wrote: BillyTheCat wrote: We also have a higher number of JUCO's this year than normal. JUCOs and transfers by year, 2006-present: 2006 - Juco: Goff, Nwokocha; Xfers: Bower, Hinton 2007 - Juco: Scott, Ejike; Xfers: Braunstein, Mooney, Carter, Flintall, Olyaie 2008 - Juco: Dawson, Jackson, Tafua, Moncrief; Xfers: Goulet 2009 - Juco: Pinder, D. Brown; xfers: Bates, Gross 2010 - Juco: Leftwich, Leftwich, Morales, Ashley(no show) Xfer: Prior 2011 - Juco: Knight, Spivey, Denton; xfers; Blankenship, Roback 2012 - Juco: Edmond, Wells, Branz, Waters; Xfers: K Smith 2013 - Juco: Tautuaiki, McLeod; Xfers: Asher, Talbert 2014 - Juco: Layton, Boland, Bonnstetter; xfers: C. Wilson, Bradley 2015 - Juco: Robbins, Anderson, Cooper xfers: Heitzman, Krizancic 2016 - Juco: Miller; xfers: Strobel, Houchins 2017 - Juco: Newton, Haas, Rourke; xfers: ????? The average is 2.7 Jucos and 2 transfers. this year isnt over ;-) Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,470 Status: Offline     RE: Stephen Collier (OSU)    Posted: 1/3/2017 1:05:54 PM  Nope, it's not, and I have no idea what to expect the rest of the way. I wasn't saying your statement was wrong, by the way. Even the 3 that are already known is more than average. I was just giving some context for the whole "Juco/xfer" discussion. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 18  of 18 Posts Jump to Page:   1 View Other 'Ohio Football' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 404 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 400 Guests 4 Registered Users:   Ted Thompson, Bobcat Love, giacomo, Kinggeorge4 There are no other users looking at this page.

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