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First Street Forever
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  Message Not Read  The Greatest Thing Ever
   Posted: 12/4/2016 6:13:34 PM 
Back in the day when I'd post every so often, the one thing that riled me up a little was the proliferation of bowl games (with bargain quality sponsors) and the whole "everybody gets a trophy" mentality surrounding them. I'd joke about people being excited about Ohio playing in the Family Dollar Bowl...

Well...

well...

well...

The General Dollar Bowl ladies and gentlemen...










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  Message Not Read  RE: The Greatest Thing Ever
   Posted: 12/4/2016 6:24:33 PM 
First Street Forever wrote:
Back in the day when I'd post every so often, the one thing that riled me up a little was the proliferation of bowl games (with bargain quality sponsors) and the whole "everybody gets a trophy" mentality surrounding them. I'd joke about people being excited about Ohio playing in the Family Dollar Bowl...

Well...

well...

well...

The General Dollar Bowl ladies and gentlemen...


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Greatest Thing Ever
   Posted: 12/5/2016 9:13:15 AM 
First Street Forever wrote:
Back in the day when I'd post every so often, the one thing that riled me up a little was the proliferation of bowl games (with bargain quality sponsors) and the whole "everybody gets a trophy" mentality surrounding them. I'd joke about people being excited about Ohio playing in the Family Dollar Bowl...

Well...

well...

well...

The General Dollar Bowl ladies and gentlemen...


To be fair, it's a 17 year old bowlgame (formerly GMAC and GoDaddy). The bowl isn't new, just the (unfortunate) sponsor
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  Message Not Read  RE: The Greatest Thing Ever
   Posted: 12/5/2016 9:21:33 AM 
I'm torn whether we want a banner at Peden declaring that we are Dollar General Bowl champions. Yes, I want us to win. But do we really need a banner?

You gotta wonder what the trophy will be like. Thin plastic, so light you can lift it with one finger? Made in China?


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Greatest Thing Ever
   Posted: 12/5/2016 9:25:22 AM 
Bowls like the one in Mobile should have their own recurring name that they can keep so that the sponsor of the bowl seems secondary. Call it the Gulf Coast Bowl or the Oil Spill Bowl (easy to find BP sponsorship there) and let that name carry on even as the sponsorship changes. It could at least build up a little cachet and tradition for the game.

Last Edited: 12/5/2016 9:28:09 AM by Deciduous Forest Cat

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  Message Not Read  RE: The Greatest Thing Ever
   Posted: 12/5/2016 9:29:38 AM 
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
Bowls like the one in Mobile should have their own recurring name that they can keep so that the sponsor of the bowl seems secondary. Call it the Gulf Coast Bowl or the Oil Spill Bowl (easy to find BP sponsorship there) and let that name carry on even as the sponsorship changes. It could at least build up a little cachet and tradition for the game.


If they don't get their name on it, they wouldn't sponsor it...

-johjn


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Greatest Thing Ever
   Posted: 12/5/2016 9:44:39 AM 
oucs 1986 wrote:
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
Bowls like the one in Mobile should have their own recurring name that they can keep so that the sponsor of the bowl seems secondary. Call it the Gulf Coast Bowl or the Oil Spill Bowl (easy to find BP sponsorship there) and let that name carry on even as the sponsorship changes. It could at least build up a little cachet and tradition for the game.


If they don't get their name on it, they wouldn't sponsor it...

-johjn


Of course their name would be on it, but it sounds better if the bowl itself has some sort of local moniker. The FedEX Orange Bowl is still the Orange Bowl and will remain so even if FedEx quits. (btw, has a study ever been completed about the return on investment for such sponsorships or stadium naming rights? Very curious)

I thought Motor City Bowl was a cool name, but when Ford was no longer the sponsor, they dropped the "bowl" name and just went sponsor only. It certainly could have been the Little Caesars Motor City Bowl. It was still in the Motor City.

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  Message Not Read  RE: The Greatest Thing Ever
   Posted: 12/5/2016 11:39:24 AM 
Pataskala wrote:
I'm torn whether we want a banner at Peden declaring that we are Dollar General Bowl champions. Yes, I want us to win. But do we really need a banner?

You gotta wonder what the trophy will be like. Thin plastic, so light you can lift it with one finger? Made in China?


To be truthful that name might have a lot of appeal to some of our new fans in the family packs from out in the county. Lot's of them shop at Dollar General on a regular basis. There are three Dollar General stores in the immediate Athens area -- one on East State Street, one on Albany Rd, and one in The Plains. I think there are about ten in Athens county and nearby areas of adjacent counties. I remember last year talking with a nice family from Glouster who started to attend our games because of the cheap family packs. I'm sure for them Dollar General is a place they regularly shop, as there is one right there in Glouster.

Last Edited: 12/5/2016 11:40:22 AM by OhioCatFan


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Greatest Thing Ever
   Posted: 12/5/2016 5:29:08 PM 
OCF--Let's aim for The Beer Bowl.

A lot of people like beer a lot.



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  Message Not Read  RE: The Greatest Thing Ever
   Posted: 12/5/2016 7:15:55 PM 
Monroe Slavin wrote:
OCF--Let's aim for The Beer Bowl.

A lot of people like beer a lot.





I'm all with you here, my man! Just so long as it's the Pabst Blue Ribbon Bowl or the some other brand associated with our SEO socioeconomic roots, and not a craft beer. The Jackie O's Fire Fly Amber Ale Bowl just does not have a great ring to it.

Now here's a bowl game sponsor that could excite all of Southeastern Ohio:

http://workingmanbrewing.com/our-beers /


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Greatest Thing Ever
   Posted: 12/5/2016 9:09:09 PM 
Since we have a lot of wise historians within our ranks here...

When did it start becoming common for corporate sponsors to tack on their names on the bowl games?

I can think of a few bowl games that had pretty classic names replaced completely by the name of the sponsor. I welcome any corrections!

Tangerine Bowl became the Russell Athletic Bowl

Citrus Bowl became the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl

The Hall of Fame Bowl became the Outback Bowl

The Continental Tire Bowl became the Meineke Car Care Bowl then became the Belk Bowl

The Humanitarian Bowl became the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl (a name upgrade in my opinion)

The Gator Bowl became the Taxslayer Bowl

The Peach Bowl became the Chick-fil-A Bowl then became the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl

Shall we start a BA all time most ridiculous bowl game names list?

I will whet your appetites with The Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Greatest Thing Ever
   Posted: 12/5/2016 9:51:47 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
Pataskala wrote:
I'm torn whether we want a banner at Peden declaring that we are Dollar General Bowl champions. Yes, I want us to win. But do we really need a banner?

You gotta wonder what the trophy will be like. Thin plastic, so light you can lift it with one finger? Made in China?


To be truthful that name might have a lot of appeal to some of our new fans in the family packs from out in the county. Lot's of them shop at Dollar General on a regular basis. There are three Dollar General stores in the immediate Athens area -- one on East State Street, one on Albany Rd, and one in The Plains. I think there are about ten in Athens county and nearby areas of adjacent counties. I remember last year talking with a nice family from Glouster who started to attend our games because of the cheap family packs. I'm sure for them Dollar General is a place they regularly shop, as there is one right there in Glouster.



Good point. They do also have an interesting business model. My father in law's company made their shelving for years. The last I heard they either have or have plans to operate at least one store in every US zip code. Whenever I drive through towns like Glouster it's usually the only variety store the town has.


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Greatest Thing Ever
   Posted: 12/6/2016 8:10:43 AM 
OUcats82 wrote:
Since we have a lot of wise historians within our ranks here...

When did it start becoming common for corporate sponsors to tack on their names on the bowl games?

I can think of a few bowl games that had pretty classic names replaced completely by the name of the sponsor. I welcome any corrections!

Tangerine Bowl became the Russell Athletic Bowl

Citrus Bowl became the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl

The Hall of Fame Bowl became the Outback Bowl

The Continental Tire Bowl became the Meineke Car Care Bowl then became the Belk Bowl

The Humanitarian Bowl became the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl (a name upgrade in my opinion)

The Gator Bowl became the Taxslayer Bowl

The Peach Bowl became the Chick-fil-A Bowl then became the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl

Shall we start a BA all time most ridiculous bowl game names list?

I will whet your appetites with The Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl


The one I remember the most growing up was FedEx sponsoring the Orange Bowl. That was like that from the late 80s until just recently.

Tositos sponsored the Fiesta Bowl from the mid 90s until 2014.

USF&G sponsored the Sugar Bowl for about a decade in the 80s and early 90s until Nokia took that for another decade.

The Motor City Bowl was originally sponsored by the big three car manufacturers in Michigan (Ford, GM and Chrysler), though they were never really a title sponsor.

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  Message Not Read  RE: The Greatest Thing Ever
   Posted: 12/6/2016 5:19:25 PM 
Quote:
If they don't get their name on it, they wouldn't sponsor it...

-johjn


as Elmer Fudd once said, "twue".

Too many bowls, IMO. The MACC was our bowl game. It's like playing in the CIT or CBI. I'm not fond of those, either.

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  Message Not Read  RE: The Greatest Thing Ever
   Posted: 12/7/2016 10:20:22 AM 
GoCats105 wrote:
OUcats82 wrote:
Since we have a lot of wise historians within our ranks here...

When did it start becoming common for corporate sponsors to tack on their names on the bowl games?

I can think of a few bowl games that had pretty classic names replaced completely by the name of the sponsor. I welcome any corrections!

Tangerine Bowl became the Russell Athletic Bowl

Citrus Bowl became the Buffalo Wild Wings Bowl

The Hall of Fame Bowl became the Outback Bowl

The Continental Tire Bowl became the Meineke Car Care Bowl then became the Belk Bowl

The Humanitarian Bowl became the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl (a name upgrade in my opinion)

The Gator Bowl became the Taxslayer Bowl

The Peach Bowl became the Chick-fil-A Bowl then became the Chick-fil-A Peach Bowl

Shall we start a BA all time most ridiculous bowl game names list?

I will whet your appetites with The Beef 'O' Brady's Bowl


The one I remember the most growing up was FedEx sponsoring the Orange Bowl. That was like that from the late 80s until just recently.

Tositos sponsored the Fiesta Bowl from the mid 90s until 2014.

USF&G sponsored the Sugar Bowl for about a decade in the 80s and early 90s until Nokia took that for another decade.

The Motor City Bowl was originally sponsored by the big three car manufacturers in Michigan (Ford, GM and Chrysler), though they were never really a title sponsor.



If I remember correctly, the first one to fully drop the bowl name and just go with the corporate sponsor was the Sun Bowl. The John Hancock Sun Bowl was renamed The John Hancock Bowl.

Last Edited: 12/7/2016 10:35:12 AM by MedinaCat

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   Posted: 12/7/2016 12:36:12 PM 
I hear you, I was hoping for Miami also and the date certainly caused some holiday plan juggling, but before we show disrespect to our bowl sponsor, check out their financial performance. I'm not a stock analyst but it appears they've been doing fairly well. (NYSE symbol: DG) In fact, the trend has been upward until August of this year shortly after they announced they would be sponsoring this bowl when the stock price plummeted over $20 a share. (Hopefully, just a coincidence.) It appears small prices mean big (and good) business.

Let's remember:

The payout last year was $750,000. Much higher than the $100,000 the RayCom Camellia Bowl paid out. I haven't heard this will change.

A bowl game means 15 more practices which give us a leg up over non-bowl attending teams for next year.

We will see, but just because the store sells "affordable" merchandise, doesn't mean they'll cheap out on the bowl experience for the players or the fans. This is an existing bowl, and as had been mentioned, one of the top ones for a MAC team to attend.

I've never been to Mobile, AL, but many on BA have mentioned they had a great time last time they went to this bowl and they seem to have many events all week leading up to the game so I'm looking forward to checking out what I can.

This is a prime time bowl at 8 pm EST on a Friday night on ESPN, and not ESPN2 or ESPNU.

I also think Mobile is missing the boat by not getting something significant in the naming like "The Dollar General Celebration Bowl" or "The Dollar General Mardis Gras Bowl" since I hear that Mobile is big on Mardis Gras celebrations and puts on a Mardis Gras parade just for this bowl.

Thank You Dollar General.

Merry Stress-mas.
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  Message Not Read  RE: The Greatest Thing Ever
   Posted: 12/7/2016 12:48:18 PM 
SWBC wrote:
"The Dollar General Mardis Gras Bowl"


Two sponsors. Dollar General and Mardis Gras paper towels.

Last Edited: 12/7/2016 12:49:01 PM by .

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