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They throw the ball very well and. well, we're not that good at stopping the pass. If our run D makes them one dimensional, which is probable, they'll throw it 80% of the time, and that's what is keeping me up at night. Could be in for a long game. Back to Top Jeff McKinney Moderator Member Since: 11/12/2004 Post Count: 6,127 Status: Offline     RE: Line on Ohio vs WMU    Posted: 11/26/2016 12:34:09 AM  I'm going to guess the line will be WMU -20 Back to Top Victory General User Member Since: 3/10/2012 Post Count: 2,272 Status: Offline     RE: Line on Ohio vs WMU    Posted: 11/26/2016 7:46:45 PM  I would guess 20 as well. Back to Top OhioBobcat General User Member Since: 1/20/2006 Post Count: 1,618 Status: Offline     RE: Line on Ohio vs WMU    Posted: 11/26/2016 10:43:11 PM  It doesn't matter what Vegas thinks. The only thing that matters is the scoreboard. Back to Top OUcats82 General User Member Since: 1/9/2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 1,862 Status: Offline     RE: Line on Ohio vs WMU    Posted: 11/27/2016 12:31:15 AM  Gosh how I hope this is the game where we finally are the team to get the shocking win over the heavily favored, ranked opponent. After seeing what Western did to Toledo it will take the Cats' best effort of the year to stand a fighting chance in this game. We've struggled the past few games where they have made things look easy. Deeply hoping for a role reversal come Friday. I know this is just a game and there are more important things in life than sports but I know I put a lot of heart and energy into cheering for the Bobcats and would really appreciate and enjoy at least one title in my lifetime. WIn or lose Western will drop back down to the log jam that is life in the MAC. Ohio-The State University Back to Top The Situation General User Member Since: 7/12/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 957 Status: Offline     RE: Line on Ohio vs WMU    Posted: 11/27/2016 2:46:51 AM  There's a line on the game? What difference does it make? Go Bobcats! Back to Top C Money General User Member Since: 8/28/2010 Post Count: 3,420 Status: Offline     RE: Line on Ohio vs WMU    Posted: 11/27/2016 12:18:25 PM  Opened +17.5. Now at +19. Back to Top . General User Member Since: 2/3/2005 Post Count: 2,997 Status: Offline     RE: Line on Ohio vs WMU    Posted: 11/27/2016 12:30:59 PM  To quote Patterson Hood: We trust (oddsmakers) as long as (they) tell us what we want to hear. Back to Top Victory General User Member Since: 3/10/2012 Post Count: 2,272 Status: Offline     RE: Line on Ohio vs WMU    Posted: 11/27/2016 12:57:52 PM  Brian Smith wrote: To quote Patterson Hood: We trust (oddsmakers) as long as (they) tell us what we want to hear. They aren't right all the time. But they are right more than anyone else. If someone was right more often they would be fired and replaced with that someone. Fans are often clueless and focused on their own interests. Talking heads get paid to be entertaining and not to be right. Coaches are the best at game planning and teaching technique but they can't touch oddsmakers in being right about who is going to win and lose. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,470 Status: Offline     RE: Line on Ohio vs WMU    Posted: 11/27/2016 1:09:17 PM  Victory wrote: Brian Smith wrote: To quote Patterson Hood: We trust (oddsmakers) as long as (they) tell us what we want to hear. They aren't right all the time. But they are right more than anyone else. If someone was right more often they would be fired and replaced with that someone. Fans are often clueless and focused on their own interests. Talking heads get paid to be entertaining and not to be right. Coaches are the best at game planning and teaching technique but they can't touch oddsmakers in being right about who is going to win and lose. A lot of people think that the job of the oddsmaker is to come close to the final point spread. That isn't their job, though. Their job is to determine the point spread at which half the money will come in on one side, and half on the other, thus assuring the casino a profit regardless of who wins. In the end the point spreads end up close to the game outcomes because they reflect the opinions of all of the bettors. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,464 Status: Offline     RE: Line on Ohio vs WMU    Posted: 11/27/2016 4:39:21 PM  Victory wrote: Brian Smith wrote: To quote Patterson Hood: We trust (oddsmakers) as long as (they) tell us what we want to hear. They aren't right all the time. But they are right more than anyone else. If someone was right more often they would be fired and replaced with that someone. Fans are often clueless and focused on their own interests. Talking heads get paid to be entertaining and not to be right. Coaches are the best at game planning and teaching technique but they can't touch oddsmakers in being right about who is going to win and lose. If there was a way that we could get the coaches opinion of the outcome of a game-not just coach speak-I would guess that they would do a lot better than the general betting public. Of course there's no way to get the coaches insights out to the public. Back to Top Victory General User Member Since: 3/10/2012 Post Count: 2,272 Status: Offline     RE: Line on Ohio vs WMU    Posted: 11/27/2016 5:22:20 PM  I think if you pitted coaches vs. oddmakers in a picking contest the oddmakers would obliterate the coaches. However, this is to know where near the extent that teams coached by coaches would obliterate teams coached by oddsmakers. :) Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,464 Status: Offline     RE: Line on Ohio vs WMU    Posted: 11/27/2016 5:44:47 PM  Victory wrote: I think if you pitted coaches vs. oddmakers in a picking contest the oddmakers would obliterate the coaches. However, this is to know where near the extent that teams coached by coaches would obliterate teams coached by oddsmakers. :) The oddsmakers are the betting public-right? I just think that the coaches have a much better idea of the real X's and O's than the man on the street. Maybe I'm missing something. Back to Top Victory General User Member Since: 3/10/2012 Post Count: 2,272 Status: Offline     RE: Line on Ohio vs WMU    Posted: 11/27/2016 6:39:34 PM  No, the oddmakers are the guys with the 1 in 100000 IQ that set the line. Then the public does what it wants. But generally the cumulative knowledge of all the betting public, at least those confident enough to put their money where their mouth is, is better than nearly every single member of the public. This is a similar thing that happens wits stock market prices. I honestly don't see any evidence that knowledge of Xs and Os is the end all be all in picking games. Sure it is most if coaching a team. But do the ex coaches and players on ESPN do a much better job than than others? Simply projecting rather than coaching is mostly an analytical process. The genius types like "the Bear" that also know a lot of football on ESPN are going to do better on average than the ex coaches and players. Coaches are highly analytical people but not to the extent of the geniuses whose job is analytics. Back to Top Bobcat1998 General User Member Since: 11/7/2012 Post Count: 2,381 Status: Offline     RE: Line on Ohio vs WMU    Posted: 11/27/2016 6:54:47 PM  Victory wrote: No, the oddmakers are the guys with the 1 in 100000 IQ that set the line. Then the public does what it wants. But generally the cumulative knowledge of all the betting public, at least those confident enough to put their money where their mouth is, is better than nearly every single member of the public. This is a similar thing that happens wits stock market prices. I honestly don't see any evidence that knowledge of Xs and Os is the end all be all in picking games. Sure it is most if coaching a team. But do the ex coaches and players on ESPN do a much better job than than others? Simply projecting rather than coaching is mostly an analytical process. The genius types like "the Bear" that also know a lot of football on ESPN are going to do better on average than the ex coaches and players. Coaches are highly analytical people but not to the extent of the geniuses whose job is analytics. If we had an offense that could run clock I would be more confident in beating the spread but without AJ running the ball I don't have any confidence in our running game to run clock. Too many passes and incomplete passes by Maxwell will be our death. If we can run the ball and not go 3 and out in 30 seconds we will be fine. 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