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Topic: Chuck Landon's Column on the Herd's Bowl

Topic: Chuck Landon's Column on the Herd's Bowl

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OhioCatFan
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Chuck Landon's Column on the Herd's Bowl

Posted: 12/12/2014 1:53:09 AM

I'm curious about BAers reaction to Chuck Landon's column on Marshall's choice of bowl opponents. This year, for the first time, C-USA had a rule in place that the conference champ, if not invited to the Access Bowl, could pick which of the C-USA affiliated bowls that they wanted to go to. Marshall picked the Boca Raton Bowl against NIU. Chuck didn't like this selection. Do you agree or disagree with him? Why do you think MU chose NIU over Illinois or any of the other possibilities?

Here's a link t the column:

http://www.herald-dispatch.com/sports/marshall/x122956319...

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RE: Chuck Landon's Column on the Herd's Bowl

Posted: 12/12/2014 6:58:48 AM

Chuck is assuming that winning a bowl game vs a "P"5 team will get T'erd something from the selection committee. It won't. There's no selection committee process after 12/7. Their season was doomed in that respect because of their regular season schedule. It now comes down to win, loss and money. Mostly money. They have tickets to sell, and they needed to ask themselves where would most fans rather be this (or any) time of year: Texas or south Florida. They'll sell more tickets for Boca. And ESPN will get better ratings by matching 12-1 T'erd vs 11-2 NIU. As for win/loss, they'd actually have a better chance in Dallas, because in Boca they're playing the best team from the state of Illinois this year. They might actually lose to NIU; probably not to Illinois. But they'll get more respect from the final pollsters (I'm assuming AP and Coaches will have one more this season) by beating 11-2 NIU than by beating 6-6 Illinois, if that matters to them.

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RE: Chuck Landon's Column on the Herd's Bowl

Posted: 12/12/2014 7:12:56 AM

Lots of bulletin board material there for NIU. The "perception" difference between Illinois and NIU is not that great.

The article might make some sense if Marshall had a realistic chance to join a P5 conference, otherwise the article comes off as him just hating on the Mac again.

Last Edited: 12/12/2014 7:14:34 AM by BuddyLee

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RE: Chuck Landon's Column on the Herd's Bowl

Posted: 12/12/2014 7:14:43 AM

I hope NIU beats them by 40.

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RE: Chuck Landon's Column on the Herd's Bowl

Posted: 12/12/2014 8:42:42 AM

This is what it would be like if Monroe wrote for the Athens Messenger....

(That's a joke, Monroe.)

Last Edited: 12/12/2014 8:43:10 AM by Ohio69

Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?.....

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RE: Chuck Landon's Column on the Herd's Bowl

Posted: 12/12/2014 9:35:07 AM

Boca Raton in December is reason enough for me.

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RE: Chuck Landon's Column on the Herd's Bowl

Posted: 12/12/2014 11:40:57 AM

BuddyLee wrote:

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RE: Chuck Landon's Column on the Herd's Bowl

Posted: 12/12/2014 12:08:09 PM

I definitely agree with Chuck here.

College football is about the company you keep. If you get a choice to dance with a P5 school over a G5 school, pick the P5 school every single time.

P.S.

I hope Marshall destroys NIU.

A strong MAC is a pipe dream long term.

A strong long term relationship with Marshall is a very real opportunity.

OHIO needs Marshall to be as strong as they can be.

Last Edited: 12/12/2014 12:10:15 PM by The Situation

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RE: Chuck Landon's Column on the Herd's Bowl

Posted: 12/12/2014 12:38:18 PM

I must say, I didn't see "unacceptable" in the column. In all seriousness, I find it hard to disagree with Landon this time, the title says its all

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RE: Chuck Landon's Column on the Herd's Bowl

Posted: 12/12/2014 1:00:05 PM

Certainly NIU is better than Illinois this year, so Marshall is playing the harder foe, between those two choices. Yet, given that Illinois is a P5 team, I think it would be better for Marshall to play Illinois. The more G5 wins over P5 teams the better, as far as I'm concerned, so I always want to see the best of the G5 teams playing P5 teams in bowls.

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RE: Chuck Landon's Column on the Herd's Bowl

Posted: 12/12/2014 1:10:46 PM

Marshall's choice would make more sense if they just told the truth. They need to own this! The first words out of the AD's mouth should have been "We got to pick a great location and we wanted to challenge ourselves with a superior opponent."

Don't just say it, but preach it. Loudly.

Who's going to argue with that when it's the truth? When the AD says "meh" about playing a team that has a bazillion ten-win seasons and BCS bowl in the last decade, then he makes himself sound like an idiot. If that's how you feel, then you don't come off as a voice of authority when it comes to what's best for your program.

Last Edited: 12/12/2014 1:11:17 PM by Deciduous Forest Cat

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RE: Chuck Landon's Column on the Herd's Bowl

Posted: 12/12/2014 1:16:00 PM

I think Marshall made the right call for the following reasons:

-Higher ranked opponent regardless of opponent's conference, and who played in the Orange Bowl two years ago

-6:00PM time slot on a Tuesday BEFORE Christmas in FL versus 1:00PM on a Friday, the day after Christmas in Dallas makes for:

-More eyeballs on your program across the country
-More alumni able to attend the game in person, creating more connection/affinity from your base
-More desirable travel destination, and likely many more Marshall alumni in and adjacent to FL than TX
-Allows your student athletes, staff and administration to spend the holiday with their parents in their own homes

I could likely come up with more than the above given more time, but those are pretty quick and easy items that say the Mouth of the Rat is the right bowl for them.

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RE: Chuck Landon's Column on the Herd's Bowl

Posted: 11/26/2016 8:19:06 PM

Marshall getting drilled 38-0 by WKU just past the half way mark through 2nd quarter.

:-)

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