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Wisconsin moved the qb under center and went to a true two back set, resulting in a running back running for a first down. Repeat, in case that is not clear: qb under center. two back set. The sky didn't fall. Experts didn't debate for hours and hours about the fabulous intricacies of being able to snap a direct handoff from centerls hands to qb's hands even though the usual offense is the shotgun. Announcers didn't criticize the play while praising the length of time that the coaching staff has stayed together. Real football By a team which wins conference championships in a conference which isn't remarkably weak Or, we can have substantial posts, 12 years in, about whether we can beat horrid teams such as Buffalo. Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top Y-CityCatFan General User Member Since: 7/28/2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 139 Status: Offline     RE: 2016    Posted: 11/5/2016 4:15:49 PM  2016... The team is in 1st place in the division, on track to compete for a Championship, the same championship you have been relentless for! They have put together two very good games in a row and have won 7 so far this year! They are doing this by playing "REAL FOOTBALL!" Man, you are too much! Back to Top ytownbobcat General User Member Since: 8/7/2006 Post Count: 1,253 Status: Offline     RE: 2016    Posted: 11/5/2016 4:50:59 PM  Agree that direct snap should be part of our offense. I don't understand reluctance to use it especially in short yardage. We have a 6'3" 225 qb. Direct snap definetly give us an advantage in hitting the line of scrimmage muse faster and less time for the defense to react. Last Edited: 11/5/2016 4:53:43 PM by ytownbobcat Back to Top Cats-22 General User Member Since: 9/30/2006 Post Count: 370 Status: Offline     RE: 2016    Posted: 11/5/2016 5:56:08 PM  Before the Toledo game I was saying we should do some under-center for a QB sneak in short yardage. Here is what I imagine was a conversation between Frank and Albin after that game: Frank: Well, good win although I'm wondering what Cats-22 thinks about how we didn't go under center in short yardage situations. Albin: Yeah, he's probably not happy. Hey is that someone who played for us and wore #22? Frank: I don't think so, I think it's a reference to the Joseph Heller book "Catch-22." Albin: Oh. Well, if he wants to do puns that's his right. Who am I to judge? Anyway in the first half a fumbled QB-RB exchange and a snap over Maxwell's head killed two drives. So do you want our QBs to master new skills for the under-center game or do you want us to spend those practice reps mastering what we're already doing? Frank: I see your reasoning. Alright let's hold off on the under-center. But one problem. Albin: What's that? Frank: Which one of us is going to tell Cats-22 the bad news? Albin & Frank: (laughter) Back to Top Buckeye to Bobcat General User Member Since: 9/10/2013 Post Count: 1,803 Status: Offline     RE: 2016    Posted: 11/5/2016 9:09:51 PM  That post......smh funny Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: 2016    Posted: 11/6/2016 2:11:19 AM  Frank: We've been so successful, won so many MACC in my 11 years here. No need to change. Albin: UTM Frank: I would never consider a radical thing such as direct center snap or two-back set. Those things could lead to a turnover. Albin: I indeed fear having the ball on offense. It could lead to a turnover. Frank and Albin: No balls! Frank: We'll play Gardner-Webb twice next year! Albin: Incarnate Word! Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top Cats-22 General User Member Since: 9/30/2006 Post Count: 370 Status: Offline     RE: 2016    Posted: 11/6/2016 2:51:41 AM  That's actually really good Monroe. I laughed out loud at "no balls." Well done. I am with you on the two-back sets and I think the coaches are too when we have more healthy RBs. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,470 Status: Offline     RE: 2016    Posted: 11/6/2016 9:30:14 AM  Cats-22 wrote: That's actually really good Monroe. I laughed out loud at "no balls." Well done. I am with you on the two-back sets and I think the coaches are too when we have more healthy RBs. I've been thinking we're going to start getting a lot of no-back sets, but now we have DL Knock, moved from WR to RB, so we should be good to continue the one-back sets awhile. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,391 Status: Offline     RE: 2016    Posted: 11/6/2016 9:54:17 AM  We ran two-back sets until AJ got injured. I find it interesting that no one can fill AJ's shoes here. While not likely, it's just possible that the coaches have determined that none of the other combinations would be very effective running two-back sets. A more likely explanation is that the coaches are too incompetent to even consider a Brown-Irons two-back set. BTW, on a related topic, I watch several games yesterday and saw examples both of teams in the shotgun that used an under-center play for short-yardage situations and teams, like OHIO, that stayed in the shotgun for short yardage plays. In one case, the announcers even commented that they wondered why the team didn't go under center. I only bring this up to point out that OHIO is not the only school that shuns the under-center option for short-yardage situations. Personally, I'd like to see it, but I don't lose sleep over it either. And, I don't think it's worth ranting about. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top giacomo General User Member Since: 11/20/2007 Post Count: 2,692 Status: Offline     RE: 2016    Posted: 11/6/2016 10:13:23 AM  At what age does someone turn into the proverbial angry old man? You know that guy. The one who finds fault in everything and can't seem to enjoy anything. Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,064 Status: Offline     RE: 2016    Posted: 11/6/2016 10:51:18 AM  OhioCatFan wrote: We ran two-back sets until AJ got injured. I find it interesting that no one can fill AJ's shoes here. While not likely, it's just possible that the coaches have determined that none of the other combinations would be very effective running two-back sets. A more likely explanation is that the coaches are too incompetent to even consider a Brown-Irons two-back set. BTW, on a related topic, I watch several games yesterday and saw examples both of teams in the shotgun that used an under-center play for short-yardage situations and teams, like OHIO, that stayed in the shotgun for short yardage plays. In one case, the announcers even commented that they wondered why the team didn't go under center. I only bring this up to point out that OHIO is not the only school that shuns the under-center option for short-yardage situations. Personally, I'd like to see it, but I don't lose sleep over it either. And, I don't think it's worth ranting about. Seeing how Brown and Irons are both banged up and with availability being questionable from week to week it makes sense to not practice something that may not be possible Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,064 Status: Offline     RE: 2016    Posted: 11/6/2016 10:51:36 AM  giacomo wrote: At what age does someone turn into the proverbial angry old man? You know that guy. The one who finds fault in everything and can't seem to enjoy anything. +1 Back to Top bobcat2nc General User Member Since: 12/28/2004 Post Count: 584 Status: Offline     RE: 2016    Posted: 11/6/2016 11:09:55 AM  BillyTheCat wrote: giacomo wrote: At what age does someone turn into the proverbial angry old man? You know that guy. The one who finds fault in everything and can't seem to enjoy anything. +1 I forgot the question but the answer is "depends". Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,391 Status: Offline     RE: 2016    Posted: 11/6/2016 4:32:07 PM  BillyTheCat wrote: Seeing how Brown and Irons are both banged up and with availability being questionable from week to week it makes sense to not practice something that may not be possible I'm assuming you caught my sarcasm. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,635 Status: Offline     RE: 2016    Posted: 11/6/2016 5:17:35 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: We ran two-back sets until AJ got injured. I find it interesting that no one can fill AJ's shoes here. While not likely, it's just possible that the coaches have determined that none of the other combinations would be very effective running two-back sets. A more likely explanation is that the coaches are too incompetent to even consider a Brown-Irons two-back set. BTW, on a related topic, I watch several games yesterday and saw examples both of teams in the shotgun that used an under-center play for short-yardage situations and teams, like OHIO, that stayed in the shotgun for short yardage plays. In one case, the announcers even commented that they wondered why the team didn't go under center. I only bring this up to point out that OHIO is not the only school that shuns the under-center option for short-yardage situations. Personally, I'd like to see it, but I don't lose sleep over it either. And, I don't think it's worth ranting about. All three of the running backs have hire averages per carry than AJ. AJ was set to have a great year, but the backs have done fine. Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. 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