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Bcat2
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Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 11/26/2015 9:56:17 PM

This crowd. I know some of you are way ahead on a 2016 Depth Chart. Anyone feel like showing their projections?

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 11/27/2015 11:02:31 AM

I'll take a stab:

QB: Sprague/Windham/Krizancic
RB: Ouellette/Irons/Brown (although I think Papi gets the 2nd most reps)
TE: Mangen/Morgan/Duckworth
WR1: Smith/Brunis/Ball
WR2: Reid/Walker/Brown
WR3: Cope/Belack
OT: Lowery/Anderson
OT: McCray/Pleasants
OG: Wood (if healthy)/Gibbons
OG: Cooper/Watson
C: Pruehs/?????

DE: Basham/Robbins
DE: Smart/Laseak
NG: Aloese/McKnight
DT: Sayles/Porter
MLB: Poling/Croutch
OLB: Brown/Daugherty
OLB: Moore/?????
CB: Brunson/????? (Fox maybe?)
CB: Provitt/Howell
S: Davis/Hagan
S: Nelson/Scipio

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 11/27/2015 11:45:43 AM

C Money wrote:

Good stab.

Possibly some true freshman or jukes getting a look at Dline and DB.

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 11/27/2015 12:25:36 PM

Pencil in Maxwell at that 2nd/3rd QB slot...Sprague and Windham will split time as Sprague is up and down and Windham was the most impressive off-season QB but now has added confidence and motivation. Expect Papi White to always be on the field somewhere if he is healthy.

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 11/27/2015 3:23:26 PM

What's the word with Duckworth at QB? I know he came in hurt, but he also came in very highly regarded.

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 11/27/2015 7:03:50 PM

I would be surprised if Krizancic is not in the battle for starting QB--based on past history. Has that ever been a transfer that Frank did not let compete immediately for starter? Bates, Bower, Scott and Jackson all got immediate shots. I can't imagine he would have come here if he was not offered that opportunity.

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 11/27/2015 7:30:18 PM

C Money wrote:

Some thoughts. Miller (JUCO recruit)in the mix at CB. Best five OL to be Lowery, Watson, Woods, McCray & Pruehs. Anderson, Gibbons, Pleasants & Cooper all close. I would list Laseak first before Smart.

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 11/28/2015 10:39:44 AM

Here's mine, which isn't too different than C.Money's:

QB: Sprague/Windham/Maxwell/Krizancic
RB: Ouellette/Irons/Brown/Hardy and White will be on the field somewhere
TE: Mangen/Morgan/Grillot
WR1: Smith/Brunis/Marhefka
WR2: Reid/Walker/Brown
WR3: Cope/Ball/Belack
LT: Lowery/Pleasants/Dudziak
LG: Gibbons/Anderson
C: Pruehs/????? <=== A total mystery
RG: Wood/Cooper
RT: Watson/McCray/Grimes

WDE: Basham/Robbins/Key
SDE: Laseak/Smart/Berger
NG: Aloese/McKnight
DT: Sayles/Porter/Arp
MLB: Poling/DiCillo/Taylor
WLB: Brown/Daugherty
SLB: Moore/Croutch/M. Brunson
CB: C. Brunson/L. Miller
CB: Provitt/Fox/Howell
S: Davis/Hagan/Quallen
S: Nelson/M.Williams/Scipio
PK: Zervos
P: Farakas
LS: Hale

Compared to this year I see:
Offensive Line: Will improve as the year goes on, and end up better than 2015
Receivers: Everyone is back, and another year stronger, faster, and smarter
QB: about the same, but hopefully less injuries
RB: It only gets better
Offense summary: Will be the best offense under Solich, should average about 32 points a game, up from 27.5 this year

DL: Two DT losses, but young guys step up and replace them, slightly better
LB: Only one loss, so more depth
DB: Major losses (Bass, Wells, Layton, Terpin, Jones, Carpenter, Macer). Just like 2011, Ohio will have to depend on new faces.
Defensive summary: In 2011 the Leftwich twins, Fisher, Wells, Bass, Kristoff, and Ingol stepped into the rotation, and did fine. Will some new players step in and do well this fall? That's the mystery.

Overall Summary: The offense will be significantly better. The defense should be good, perhaps not quite as good, but much depends on what happens in the secondary. If solid new players step up, the defense will be solid, and it will be an outstanding team.

Last Edited: 11/28/2015 11:54:09 AM by L.C.

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 11/28/2015 5:32:23 PM

Word was Krizancic may move to FS..not a strong enough arm for the position but things change with training so who knows. I think he is too far behind at this point to expect much. Duckworth has been average but has time to develop. Coaches are high on Maxwell potential

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 11/29/2015 9:26:21 AM

Bcat2 wrote:

C Money wrote:

Sprague looks like our QB. If he can stay healthy, he should be the one. If not, we will have capable back-ups. We are also set at RB and WR, with good depth and experience. AJ is a beast, the NIU game showed his true grit.

Our LB corps will be depleted some from a depth perspective. Dicillio and Daugherty as the backups, then what? Injuries at LB have been a problem, hope we stay healthy there. Cunningham hasn't been mentioned at safety, so I'll mention him. He has played special teams and is also capable. I also think Hagan and Mayne Williams will make noise at safety. I heard someone mention Krizanic for that position...the more athletes the better, but he will get a long look at QB.

At corner we look experienced again, but are we not deep.

If this team stays healthy in 2016, we are going bowling again and will have a crack at the East title game.

Just my opinion, folks!

Last Edited: 11/29/2015 9:27:32 AM by Cats2014

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 11/29/2015 10:05:27 AM

Next year it will be important to get reps for a QB other than Sprague and Windham since they both are seniors. Maxwell is very raw and will need game experience.
As I recall Vick did not get a lots of reps his RSFr year because the scores of a lot of our games were close
and TT got most of the reps.
Our OOC schedule is ramping up. Having a QB with some game experience would be good for 2017

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 11/29/2015 11:23:16 AM

Cats2014 wrote:

...Our LB corps will be depleted some from a depth perspective. Dicillio and Daugherty as the backups, then what? Injuries at LB have been a problem, hope we stay healthy there....

LB depth is not a concern. I see the starters are Poling, Brown, and Moore. Behind them you have Daugherty, Croutch, and DiCillo, all of who played this year. In addition you have a couple guys that redshirted, Marcus Brunson and Addrell Taylor, plus three linebackers in the 2016 class, Connor, Dorsa, and Popp, plus you have some solid walkons including, Austin Clack, who was recommended by the same guy that sent AJ to Ohio, Jacob Koons of Trimble, and Erik Stein from Dublin-Coffman.

Depth at DB is much more concerning to me, especially at Safety where injuries have been rampant the last few years.

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 11/29/2015 12:10:32 PM

L.C. wrote:

Cats2014 wrote:

...Our LB corps will be depleted some from a depth perspective. Dicillio and Daugherty as the backups, then what? Injuries at LB have been a problem, hope we stay healthy there....

L.C. It probably will not come to this, but, how many examples are there of a high school QB with great numbers that gets switched to safety to become an outstanding QB of the defensive secondary. I have seen some great defenses with such safeties. I am thinking Mr. Krizancic, head of a QB, athlete/hands of a WR might just be very capable at safety. Was it bobcatblitz who posted he might get a look there?

Krizancic Bio. Prior to Ohio: Three-year letterman... Division I State Runner Up... Named Player of the Year by Ohio, News-Herald, Northeast Ohio Conference, and The Plain Dealer... Tony Fisher Award Recipient... Named Second Team All-State during his junior year... Finished his career with 3,320 passing yards for 32 touchdowns, 1,300 receiving yards for 13 touchdowns, 2,100 rushing yards for 31 touchdowns, and 3 receiving touchdowns... Was also a four-year letterman in basketball... 2013 State Champion in basketball.

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 6/19/2016 1:17:57 PM

One thing we never get at the end of Spring camp, for whatever reason, is a depth chart. Usually the first real depth chart we see either comes from web sites, or from Arkley. I don't recall Arkley having one at the end of Spring, and the web site that had a chart first last year currently has a wrong chart with lots of holes, and with players that are no longer on the roster:
http://tinyurl.com/ovmor2v

So...let's take another stab at this. Note that Sprague didn't play in the Spring. Will he be healed and ready to play by fall? I don't know. If so, he will probably be the starter, otherwise I'd guess it will be

QB: Windham, Maxwell, Krizancic/Duckworth.
RB: Ouellette, Irons/Brown; White will be on the field as well
TE: Mangen, Morgan, C. Brown
WR1: S. Smith, Ball,Marhefka
WR2: Reid, A. Meyer, J.Brown
WR3: Cope, Belack
LT: Lowery, Pleasants
LG: Cooper, Anderson
C: Pruehs, Dudziak (Since I have no idea, I put someone as backup)
RG: Wood, Gibbons, Langencamp
RT: Watson, McCray, Murdock

SDE: Basham, Berger
WDE: Laseak, Smart, Robbins
NG: Aloese, Strobel,Kuhar
DT: Sayles, Porter, McKnight/Arp
MLB: Poling, Grillot, Taylor/Stein
WLB: Brown, Croutch
SLB: Moore, M. Brunson
CB: L.Miller, Fox
CB: Houchins, Howell
S: Davis, Hagan, Quallen
S: Nelson, M.Williams, Hardy
PK: Zervos
P: Farakas
LS: Hale

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 6/19/2016 6:31:58 PM

It will be interesting because we get so much pub on our D-line and linebackers but I really believe that this could "possibly" be the most athletic and tough DB's we've had in a while. I love Toran Davis already but to add London Miller and Kevin Houchins together and with Provitt a year older..Howell and Hagan both seem like they can step up as well. I think this will be one of our strengths by midseason. I also like Strobel to be starting by midseason on the D-line.

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 6/19/2016 6:40:07 PM

Bobcat1998 wrote:

Provitt has dropped football so he's not here to help.

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 6/20/2016 8:34:13 AM

I forgot about Provitt. That was a big blow. He had come along. I think guys like Nelson, Howell and Hagan will be fine though. Love Houchins and Miller at corner though.

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 6/21/2016 12:25:00 PM

This thread reminds me of rearranging the chairs on the deck of the Titanic. We don't have the talent. Very few All-MAC players, in this sorry excuse for a conference. You can plug these guys into any slot you want. It's still poor quality players -- even by MAC standards -- in those slots. Need a coaching staff that can recruit and can coach exciting, imaginative football. Send Solich to the rest home where he belongs. He's past his prime, if he ever had one. Get your OHIO on.

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 6/22/2016 7:11:08 AM

Bobcat1998 wrote:

Steele has Strobel on his All MAC 2d Tm DL. Me, not sure, with a rotation, that any player will have the stats to impress in the post season. Just hope he buys into what ever role he is asked to perform. Ohio's defense is built on players being unselfish.

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 6/22/2016 8:43:15 AM

Bcat2 wrote:

Bobcat1998 wrote:

I don't think he's trying to predict who gets on the team so much as who he thinks will be the best players. I'm glad to see someone who usually knows what he's talking about thinks so highly of Strobel because I really didn't know what to expect from a guy who has had limited playing time so far.

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 6/22/2016 10:32:13 AM

Houchins will not start at corner, he barely played at Louisville. Maxwell will start and if one of the freshman bulk up, they may play. I really the new safeties can beat out last year's safeties, if not we are in for a world od hurt. Hagan and Williams come in with tremendous promise.

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 6/22/2016 1:01:48 PM

allen wrote:

allen has spoken. We will see. Which freshmen are you refering to who might bulk up?

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 6/22/2016 1:02:56 PM

allen wrote:

Maxwell is a QB. I think you mean Howell.

I do agree that I like all the Safeties. While they don't have that much playing time, they have a lot of speed and athleticism, so I expect a lot from them.

CB, however, is a total mystery. There are ten cornerbacks on the roster. Of those, five are new to the program, and among the other five, only one has ever played a minute for the Bobcats, that being Brad Ellis, and he has played only sparingly. Thus, any of the ten could prove themselves, and earn the start, or the backup positions.

The 5 Cornerbacks who are new to the program:
London Miller: R-Jr, JUCO transfer
Kevin Houchins: R-Sr, 5th year Senior transfer from Louisville
Jeff Mundy: 5th year Senior Transfer from U. Cincinnati
Xavior Motley: True Freshman, will arrive this fall
Iilyas Motley: True Freshman, will arrive this fall

The 5 returning cornerbacks:
Jalen Fox: R-So, I don't believe he has played yet
Maxwell Howell: R-Fr, redshirted in his first year, was also tried at Safety
Daniel A'Hara: Redshirt Freshman, walkon redshirted last year
Brad Ellis: Redshirt Junior, walkon, 3rd year on team, has played occasionally
Cameron Gunnels: Redshirt Sophmore, 3rd year on team, has not played

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 6/24/2016 1:39:14 AM

L.C. wrote:

allen wrote:

I meant Maxwell Howell, If the Motley twins bulk up, they may play. I hope Houchins plays, I am from Cleveland heights, so he is from right around the corner, but he will have to come in hungry and improved. Maxwell Howell was once offered by Ohio State, I believe. he could be the guy. I could see some safeties moving over as well. I really hope Hagan and Williams come in as advertised.
https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/maple/128669
Ohio State said Howell would not be an Ohio commit for long, but he stuck with us.
http://www.buckeyeplanet.com/forum/threads/fl-db-maxwell-... /

Last Edited: 6/24/2016 1:46:06 AM by allen

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RE: Way, Way, Way Early Depth Chart

Posted: 6/24/2016 7:15:20 AM

allen wrote:

L.C. wrote:

allen wrote:

Arkley has hinted that Mayne Williams might play some corner. Hardy shifting to safety may provide some flexibility there.

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