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They only played three seasons in the 40s during WW2. Ohio-The State University Back to Top Bobcat Mac General User Member Since: 2/3/2012 Location: Centerville, OH Post Count: 140 Status: Offline     RE: MAC schools in the AP All-Time Top 100    Posted: 8/3/2016 9:45:16 AM  Crazy to think how good the Minnesota Golden Gophers football program was! Building the dome and moving off campus really did not help their situation. Back to Top OUcats82 General User Member Since: 1/9/2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 1,862 Status: Offline     RE: MAC schools in the AP All-Time Top 100    Posted: 8/3/2016 1:04:13 PM  Bobcat Mac wrote: Crazy to think how good the Minnesota Golden Gophers football program was! Building the dome and moving off campus really did not help their situation. It has always been a bit of a head-scratcher for me too as to why Minnesota has struggled so much in football while a school like Wisconsin seems to always have a good to great season. One does not seem to have a particular advantage over the other at first glance in terms of location, weather etc. The Twin Cities are a much larger metro area than Milwaukee etc. The program Alvarez built obviously has been sustained by and large and that alone gives the Badgers the upper hand but I just feel like the U should be stronger than they are. Ohio-The State University Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,470 Status: Offline     RE: MAC schools in the AP All-Time Top 100    Posted: 8/3/2016 2:28:23 PM  Bobcat Mac wrote: Crazy to think how good the Minnesota Golden Gophers football program was! Building the dome and moving off campus really did not help their situation. Minnesota was a national powerhouse in the pre-WWII era, but is well below .500 from 1942 onward. I understand that during the war years many teams were not the same, but as for why they did not return to where they were once the war was over, I have no idea. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top That one crazy fan General User Member Since: 7/21/2010 Location: Iowa City, IA Post Count: 489 Status: Offline     RE: MAC schools in the AP All-Time Top 100    Posted: 8/3/2016 8:42:39 PM  Sooo how is Miami ranked ahead of us? The opposing team sucks! Back to Top Recovering Journalist General User Member Since: 8/17/2010 Location: Cleveland, OH Post Count: 1,851 Status: Offline     RE: MAC schools in the AP All-Time Top 100    Posted: 8/3/2016 9:29:05 PM  That one crazy fan wrote: Sooo how is Miami ranked ahead of us? Because "all-time" does not mean "last 10 years." Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: MAC schools in the AP All-Time Top 100    Posted: 8/4/2016 4:23:23 AM  If you want a more lengthy and particular explanation, let me know. Or read my hundreds and hundreds of posts on Solich mediocre = Ohio mediocre. Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,215 Status: Offline     RE: MAC schools in the AP All-Time Top 100    Posted: 8/4/2016 7:05:26 AM  OUcats82 wrote: Bobcat Mac wrote: Crazy to think how good the Minnesota Golden Gophers football program was! Building the dome and moving off campus really did not help their situation. It has always been a bit of a head-scratcher for me too as to why Minnesota has struggled so much in football while a school like Wisconsin seems to always have a good to great season. One does not seem to have a particular advantage over the other at first glance in terms of location, weather etc. The Twin Cities are a much larger metro area than Milwaukee etc. The program Alvarez built obviously has been sustained by and large and that alone gives the Badgers the upper hand but I just feel like the U should be stronger than they are. Wisconsin really didn't rise up until Barry Alvarez got there in 1990. Took over a bad program and turned into a national powerhouse that you see now. And as other schools like Georgia, Alabama, Clemson, Oklahoma, Michigan, Auburn and others have proven, you don't need to be in a big city to be successful. But it is kinda weird how Minnesota couldn't sustain the success they had in the early 1900s. Maybe to recruits stopped going there because of the weather. Maybe other programs just started getting better and making a name for themselves. Back to Top Mike Johnson General User Member Since: 11/11/2004 Location: North Canton, OH Post Count: 1,730 Status: Offline     RE: MAC schools in the AP All-Time Top 100    Posted: 8/4/2016 8:26:25 AM  L.C. wrote: Bobcat Mac wrote: Crazy to think how good the Minnesota Golden Gophers football program was! Building the dome and moving off campus really did not help their situation. Minnesota was a national powerhouse in the pre-WWII era, but is well below .500 from 1942 onward. I understand that during the war years many teams were not the same, but as for why they did not return to where they were once the war was over, I have no idea. Post-1942, didn't Minnesota have a QB named Sandy Stephenson and win - or come close to winning - a national title around 1960? I ask because I tend to recall Minn's decline starting considerably later than 1942... Last Edited: 8/4/2016 8:27:41 AM by Mike Johnson http://www.facebook.com/mikejohnson.author Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,068 Status: Offline     RE: MAC schools in the AP All-Time Top 100    Posted: 8/4/2016 8:56:03 AM  OUcats82 wrote: Bobcat Mac wrote: Crazy to think how good the Minnesota Golden Gophers football program was! Building the dome and moving off campus really did not help their situation. It has always been a bit of a head-scratcher for me too as to why Minnesota has struggled so much in football while a school like Wisconsin seems to always have a good to great season. One does not seem to have a particular advantage over the other at first glance in terms of location, weather etc. The Twin Cities are a much larger metro area than Milwaukee etc. The program Alvarez built obviously has been sustained by and large and that alone gives the Badgers the upper hand but I just feel like the U should be stronger than they are. You realize that Wisconsin is not located in Milwaukee? Hence your comparison of the size of the Twin Cities to Milwaukee is not relevant Back to Top colobobcat66 General User Member Since: 9/1/2006 Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO Post Count: 4,474 Status: Offline     RE: MAC schools in the AP All-Time Top 100    Posted: 8/4/2016 10:49:13 AM  BillyTheCat wrote: OUcats82 wrote: Bobcat Mac wrote: Crazy to think how good the Minnesota Golden Gophers football program was! Building the dome and moving off campus really did not help their situation. It has always been a bit of a head-scratcher for me too as to why Minnesota has struggled so much in football while a school like Wisconsin seems to always have a good to great season. One does not seem to have a particular advantage over the other at first glance in terms of location, weather etc. The Twin Cities are a much larger metro area than Milwaukee etc. The program Alvarez built obviously has been sustained by and large and that alone gives the Badgers the upper hand but I just feel like the U should be stronger than they are. You realize that Wisconsin is not located in Milwaukee? Hence your comparison of the size of the Twin Cities to Milwaukee is not relevant I think the point is that these two states have nearly the same population at about 5.5 million or so. These are "the state schools" in these states with no other FBS football schools and have a statewide fan base much like Nebraska and other single major school states. Back to Top OUcats82 General User Member Since: 1/9/2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 1,862 Status: Offline     RE: MAC schools in the AP All-Time Top 100    Posted: 8/4/2016 11:08:13 AM  BillyTheCat wrote: OUcats82 wrote: Bobcat Mac wrote: Crazy to think how good the Minnesota Golden Gophers football program was! Building the dome and moving off campus really did not help their situation. It has always been a bit of a head-scratcher for me too as to why Minnesota has struggled so much in football while a school like Wisconsin seems to always have a good to great season. One does not seem to have a particular advantage over the other at first glance in terms of location, weather etc. The Twin Cities are a much larger metro area than Milwaukee etc. The program Alvarez built obviously has been sustained by and large and that alone gives the Badgers the upper hand but I just feel like the U should be stronger than they are. You realize that Wisconsin is not located in Milwaukee? Hence your comparison of the size of the Twin Cities to Milwaukee is not relevant Sorry-I should have elaborated on my thought there. I know that UW is in Madison and have been to Camp Randall. I was implying that the available in-state talent available should arguably be higher with a larger metro area like the Twin Cities and should benefit Minnesota more than it has. Ohio-The State University Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,470 Status: Offline     RE: MAC schools in the AP All-Time Top 100    Posted: 8/4/2016 1:44:05 PM  Mike Johnson wrote: Post-1942, didn't Minnesota have a QB named Sandy Stephenson and win - or come close to winning - a national title around 1960? I ask because I tend to recall Minn's decline starting considerably later than 1942... Minnesota had a pair of 8-2 seasons in 1960 and 1961, but those were following records of 1-7 and 2-6 the two years before. Comparing various time periods: 18xx-1941 306-91-45 .794 (among current P5 teams, only Notre Dame and Mich were higher) 1942-90 237-239-16 .498 1991-2015 130-171-0 .432 “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top PhiTau74 General User Member Since: 8/6/2010 Location: Columbia, SC Post Count: 457 Status: Offline     RE: MAC schools in the AP All-Time Top 100    Posted: 8/4/2016 6:02:13 PM  Large city means nothing for a program, case in point is South Carolina in Columbia with a population of 750,000 and Clemson in the middle of nowhere and a National Championship and runner up last year. Back to Top That one crazy fan General User Member Since: 7/21/2010 Location: Iowa City, IA Post Count: 489 Status: Offline     RE: MAC schools in the AP All-Time Top 100    Posted: 8/4/2016 6:04:06 PM  Recovering Journalist wrote: That one crazy fan wrote: Sooo how is Miami ranked ahead of us? Because "all-time" does not mean "last 10 years." Sooo how is Miami ranked ahead of us? :P On a side note, where did the emoji bar go? The opposing team sucks! Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,470 Status: Offline     RE: MAC schools in the AP All-Time Top 100    Posted: 8/4/2016 7:04:44 PM  Sadly, we lost the emoji bar, and the ability to inset pictures and fonts, and other fancy, stuff a couple years ago when Google made some changes to Chrome that broke the nifty things Ryan had made for BA. The mobile version without all the bells and whistles still worked, so that's what we use now. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top That one crazy fan General User Member Since: 7/21/2010 Location: Iowa City, IA Post Count: 489 Status: Offline     RE: MAC schools in the AP All-Time Top 100    Posted: 8/5/2016 2:19:16 AM  L.C. wrote: Sadly, we lost the emoji bar, and the ability to inset pictures and fonts, and other fancy, stuff a couple years ago when Google made some changes to Chrome that broke the nifty things Ryan had made for BA. The mobile version without all the bells and whistles still worked, so that's what we use now. Daaaang, not even Firefox has that option...[expletive]ing Google... The opposing team sucks! Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,470 Status: Offline     RE: MAC schools in the AP All-Time Top 100    Posted: 8/5/2016 3:14:25 AM  If Firefox still works with the old fancy version, I wonder if Ryan could give those of us who use Firefox a secret link to the good version of BA with the bells and whistles, and leave the plain jane version as the main entry point? “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: MAC schools in the AP All-Time Top 100    Posted: 8/5/2016 4:12:26 AM  No emojis?...YOU CAN ALWAYS YELL. Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! 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