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  Message Not Read  The Importance the QB Position
   Posted: 1/3/2016 8:56:25 AM 
Last nights Oregon/TCU game clearly showed the importance of having a great QB. Oregon was up 31-0 in the 1st half when their QB goes down. The back up plays the rest of the game and they can't score any points in the 2nd half to win the game and consequently the lost.
I bring this point up as we are all discussing the weaknesses of our program and what the needs are for next year.




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  Message Not Read  RE: The Importance the QB Position
   Posted: 1/3/2016 10:07:35 AM 
I would submit that their substitute center was more of a problem than their substitute QB.


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Importance the QB Position
   Posted: 1/3/2016 11:45:26 AM 
After OR's starting QB went out, the Ducks gained only 77 yards.

I was very surprised that the Ducks didn't have more skilled depth at center.

Side note: I admired Mack Brown as coach at NC and TX, and I've really enjoyed his work as an announcer. When OR went up 31-0, Brown said, "Don't turn us off. This game is a long way from over." From another announcer, I would have regarded that as so much babble. But I believed Brown really meant it. Talk about prescient.


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Importance the QB Position
   Posted: 1/3/2016 12:18:22 PM 
Mike Johnson wrote:
After OR's starting QB went out, the Ducks gained only 77 yards.

I was very surprised that the Ducks didn't have more skilled depth at center.

Side note: I admired Mack Brown as coach at NC and TX, and I've really enjoyed his work as an announcer. When OR went up 31-0, Brown said, "Don't turn us off. This game is a long way from over." From another announcer, I would have regarded that as so much babble. But I believed Brown really meant it. Talk about prescient.


+1 on Brown as an announcer. He has quickly become on of my favorites. One thing I like about him is that he explains in simple terms what's happening with shifts in offense and defense alignments on the field. I get the idea that I'm actually learning things about the game listening to him. In this regard he reminds me of Bill Curry, who was a great announcer but a mediocre coach.


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Importance the QB Position
   Posted: 1/4/2016 8:13:44 AM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
I would submit that their substitute center was more of a problem than their substitute QB.


You obviously didn't watch much Oregon football this year. With Adams they were a borderline Playoff team. Without him, well hopefully you saw the 2nd half of the Alamo Bowl. A center does not influence 31 unanswered points that much.

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  Message Not Read  RE: The Importance the QB Position
   Posted: 1/4/2016 11:14:02 AM 
GoCats105 wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
I would submit that their substitute center was more of a problem than their substitute QB.


You obviously didn't watch much Oregon football this year. With Adams they were a borderline Playoff team. Without him, well hopefully you saw the 2nd half of the Alamo Bowl. A center does not influence 31 unanswered points that much.



Did you see all of the fumbled and/or mishandled snaps? A few less of those and Oregon gets another TD and wins this game.

http://tinyurl.com/qhojkn4

Quote from this article on the impact of the substitute center:

"Oregon’s starting center also went out with an injury in the first half and his replacement was guilty of 12 low snaps that came at Lockie’s shoe tops or bounced on the ground — in one instance nullifying a touchdown pass that was called back because Lockie had to touch a knee to the turf to corral the low snap before he threw the pass."


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  Message Not Read  RE: The Importance the QB Position
   Posted: 1/4/2016 12:19:19 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
GoCats105 wrote:
OhioCatFan wrote:
I would submit that their substitute center was more of a problem than their substitute QB.


You obviously didn't watch much Oregon football this year. With Adams they were a borderline Playoff team. Without him, well hopefully you saw the 2nd half of the Alamo Bowl. A center does not influence 31 unanswered points that much.



Did you see all of the fumbled and/or mishandled snaps? A few less of those and Oregon gets another TD and wins this game.

http://tinyurl.com/qhojkn4

Quote from this article on the impact of the substitute center:

"Oregon’s starting center also went out with an injury in the first half and his replacement was guilty of 12 low snaps that came at Lockie’s shoe tops or bounced on the ground — in one instance nullifying a touchdown pass that was called back because Lockie had to touch a knee to the turf to corral the low snap before he threw the pass."


Once again, you really think the center is the reason TCU won this game? Sorry, but I don't. And I'm fairly confident that center was replaced in the 1st half when Adams was still in the game.

Last Edited: 1/4/2016 12:21:07 PM by GoCats105

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  Message Not Read  RE: The Importance the QB Position
   Posted: 1/4/2016 12:24:00 PM 
GoCats105 wrote:
Once again, you really think the center is the reason TCU won this game? Sorry, but I don't. And I'm fairly confident that center was replaced in the 1st half when Adams was still in the game.


Yes, sir, I do. Everything else staying the same, if the regular center had played the whole game Oregon wins, IMHO.


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