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   Posted: 12/2/2015 11:47:53 AM 
http://www.mac-sports.com/news/2015/12/1/FB_1201152551.aspx


ZERO first teamers, and only one second teamer for Ohio.

Poling only made 3rd team.
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   Posted: 12/2/2015 12:12:02 PM 
Here's the teams:

2015 MAC Specialty Award Winners
Coach of the Year: Matt Campbell, Toledo
Freshman of the Year: RB Jamauri Bogan, Western Michigan
Offensive Player of the Year: QB Matt Johnson, Bowling Green
Defensive Player of the Year: LB Jatavis Brown, Akron
Special Teams Player of the Year: KR Aregeros Turner, Northern Illinois
Vern Smith Leadership Award Winner: QB Matt Johnson, Bowling Green

2015 FIRST TEAM ALL-MAC

2015 All-MAC First Team Offense
Position – Name - School
Quarterback – Matt Johnson, Bowling Green
Offensive Linemen – Storm Norton, Toledo
Offensive Linemen – Andrew Ness, Northern Illinois &
Offensive Lineman – Willie Beavers, Western Michigan +
Offensive Linemen – Nick Beamish, Central Michigan &
Offensive Linemen – Aidan Conlon, Northern Illinois
Tight End – Matt Weiser, Buffalo
Wide Receiver – Roger Lewis, Bowling Green &
Wide Receiver – Corey Davis, Western Michigan &@
Wide Receiver – Tajae Sharpe, UMass &
Wide Receiver – Daniel Braverman, Western Michigan %
Running Back – Joel Bouagnon, Northern Illinois
Running Back – Travis Greene, Bowling Green @
Placekicker – Christian Hagan, Northern Illinois

2015 All-MAC First Team Defense
Position – Name - School
Outside Linebacker – Jatavis Brown, Akron &^
Outside Linebacker – Sean Wiggins, Ball State
Inside Linebacker – Boomer Mays, Northern Illinois +
Inside Linebacker – Austin Valdez, Bowling Green
Down Lineman – Orion Jones, Toledo +
Down Lineman – Perez Ford, Northern Illinois +
Down Lineman – Joshua Posley, Ball State
Down Lineman – Terence Waugh, Kent State
Defensive Back – Shawun Lurry, Northern Illinois
Defensive Back – Nate Holley, Kent State &
Defensive Back – Cheatham Norrils, Toledo
Defensive Back – Demetrius Monday, Kent State
Punter – Joe Davidson, Bowling Green

2015 All-MAC First Team Specialists
Position – Name - School
Kickoff Return Specialist – Aregeros Turner, Northern Illinois
Punt Return Specialist – Corey Jones, Toledo


2015 SECOND TEAM ALL-MAC

2015 All-MAC Second Team Offense
Position – Name - School
Quarterback – Cooper Rush, Central Michigan
Offensive Lineman – Alex Huettel, Bowling Green +@
Offensive Lineman – Jacob Richard, Ball State %#
Offensive Lineman – Levon Myers, Northern Illinois
Offensive Lineman – Jacob Bennett, Bowling Green
Offensive Lineman – John Kling, Buffalo
Tight End – Ben McCord, Central Michigan
Wide Receiver – Jordan Williams, Ball State +#
Wide Receiver – Kenny Golladay, Northern Illinois
Wide Receiver – Gehrig Dieter, Bowling Green
Wide Receiver – Alonzo Russell, Toledo %#!
Running Back – Kareem Hunt, Toledo &
Running Back – Terry Swanson, Toledo
Placekicker – Brian Eavey, Central Michigan

2015 All-MAC Second Team Defense
Position – Name - School
Outside Linebacker – Trent Greene, Bowling Green
Outside Linebacker – Brandon Berry, Buffalo
Inside Linebacker – Great Ibe, Eastern Michigan +
Inside Linebacker – Jovan Santos-Knox, UMass &
Down Lineman – Allen Covington, Toledo
Down Lineman – Blake Serpa, Central Michigan
Down Lineman – Bryson Albright, Miami
Down Lineman – Cody Grice, Akron &
Defensive Back – Darius Phillips, Western Michigan
Defensive Back – Kavon Frazier, Central Michigan
Defensive Back – Ian Wells, Ohio
Defensive Back – Ronald Zamort, Western Michigan %
Punter – Anthony Melchiori, Kent State &@

2015 All-MAC Second Team Specialists
Position – Name - School
Kickoff Return Specialist – Darius Phillips, Western Michigan %
Punt Return Specialist – Trey Dudley-Giles, UMass


2015 THIRD TEAM ALL-MAC

2015 All-MAC Third Team Offense
Position – Name - School
Quarterback – Zach Terrell, Western Michigan +
Offensive Lineman – Taylor Moton, Western Michigan
Offensive Lineman – Ramadan Ahmeti, Central Michigan
Offensive Lineman – Mike McQueen, Ohio
Offensive Lineman – Lucas Powell, Ohio %
Offensive Lineman – Isaiah Williams, Akron
Tight End – Rodney Mills, UMass
Wide Receiver – Jesse Kroll, Central Michigan
Wide Receiver – Ronnie Moore, Bowling Green
Wide Receiver – Sebastian Smith, Ohio
Wide Receiver – KeVonn Mabon, Ball State %
Running Back – Jamauri Bogan, Western Michigan
Running Back – Darius Jackson, Eastern Michigan
Placekicker – Andrew Haldeman, Western Michigan

2015 All-MAC Third Team Defense
Position – Name - School
Outside Linebacker – Okezie Alozie, Buffalo
Outside Linebacker – Trey Seals, UMass
Inside Linebacker – Matt Dellinger, Kent State
Inside Linebacker – Quentin Poling, Ohio
Down Lineman – Jamal Marcus, Akron
Down Lineman – Rodney Coe, Akron
Down Lineman – JT Jones, Miami
Down Lineman – Trent Voss, Toledo
Defensive Back – Asantay Brown, Western Michigan
Defensive Back – Marlon Moore, Northern Illinois
Defensive Back – Boise Ross, Buffalo
Defensive Back – DeJuan Rogers, Toledo
Punter – Logan Laurent, UMass

2015 All-MAC Third Team Specialists
Position – Name - School
Kickoff Return Specialist – KeVonn Mabon, Ball State
Punt Return Specialist – Ryan Burbrink, Bowling Green &@

& 2014 First-Team All-MAC
+ 2014 Second-Team All-MAC
% 2014 Third-Team All-MAC

^ 2013 First-Team All-MAC
@ 2013 Second-Team All-MAC
# 2013 Third-Team All-MAC

! 2012 Third-Team All-MAC
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   Posted: 12/2/2015 12:14:02 PM 
How does this even happen? How do we only get one Second Teamer? Poling was good enough to warrant Defensive Player of the Year! One of our linemen should be a First Teamer on offense. Sebastian Smith was one of the most dominant receivers in the conference but didn't have the stats. How about any of our DB's? Layton, Wells? How about Bonstetter? How about Basham or Laseak. Heard several commentators on TV during games talking about Laseak.

This shows that the MAC has a problem with our consistency. If you're not Northern, Toledo or BG then they don't care. How did Balls get so many high up guys? This is a travesty.
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   Posted: 12/2/2015 12:16:40 PM 
1. Kind of sad and disappointing that we only have one player on the 1st & 2nd team combined.

2. Total joke that Quinton Poling is 3rd team...he was defensive player of the week like 8 times this year wasn't he????
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   Posted: 12/2/2015 12:27:50 PM 
bshot44 wrote:
1. Kind of sad and disappointing that we only have one player on the 1st & 2nd team combined.

2. Total joke that Quinton Poling is 3rd team...he was defensive player of the week like 8 times this year wasn't he????

The joke with Poling on third team only gets worse when you consider that they put 2 inside linebackers on each team. Thus, they are saying he was the 5th or 6th best ILB in the conference, which is nonsense, with all the defensive player of the week awards he has had the last two years.

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   Posted: 12/2/2015 12:28:54 PM 
bshot44 wrote:
1. Kind of sad and disappointing that we only have one player on the 1st & 2nd team combined.

2. Total joke that Quinton Poling is 3rd team...he was defensive player of the week like 8 times this year wasn't he????


Finally, we agree on something.

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   Posted: 12/2/2015 12:31:59 PM 

Here's the breakdown by team:

Scl 1O 1D 2O 2D 3O 3D ST TL
Akrn 0 1 0 1 1 2 0 5
Ball 0 2 2 0 1 0 1 6
BGS 3 1 3 1 1 0 2 11
Buff 1 0 1 1 0 2 0 5
CMU 1 0 2 2 2 0 1 8
EMU 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 2
KSU 0 3 0 0 0 1 1 5
Mass 1 0 0 1 1 1 2 6
Miam 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 2
NIU 3 3 2 0 0 1 2 11
Ohio 0 0 0 1 3 1 0 5
Toled 1 2 3 1 0 2 1 11
WMU 3 0 0 2 3 1 2 11

I moved punter and kicker from offense and defense as listed to special teams.

Last Edited: 12/2/2015 12:34:55 PM by UpSan Bobcat
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   Posted: 12/2/2015 12:36:47 PM 
allen wrote:
bshot44 wrote:
1. Kind of sad and disappointing that we only have one player on the 1st & 2nd team combined.

2. Total joke that Quinton Poling is 3rd team...he was defensive player of the week like 8 times this year wasn't he????


Finally, we agree on something.


I'm sure he was held back by having missed parts or all of several games, but obviously, even with that considered, I don't see how he isn't at least second team.
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   Posted: 12/2/2015 1:04:58 PM 
allen wrote:
bshot44 wrote:
1. Kind of sad and disappointing that we only have one player on the 1st & 2nd team combined.

2. Total joke that Quinton Poling is 3rd team...he was defensive player of the week like 8 times this year wasn't he????


Finally, we agree on something.


We agree on more than you are giving us credit for....
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   Posted: 12/2/2015 1:22:57 PM 
So does this make Frank's coaching performance even better, given he has only one player at least second-team all-conference?

Or does this make Frank's recruiting seem sub-par, as other MAC schools appear to have more top-quality players at certain positions?
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   Posted: 12/2/2015 1:46:06 PM 
Poling three time East Player of the week on defense. Earns third team. Joke.
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   Posted: 12/2/2015 2:03:29 PM 
Valley Cat wrote:
Poling three time East Player of the week on defense. Earns third team. Joke.


Which is even more impressive considering he lost time due to injury.
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   Posted: 12/2/2015 2:03:41 PM 
L.C. wrote:
The joke with Poling on third team only gets worse when you consider that they put 2 inside linebackers on each team. Thus, they are saying he was the 5th or 6th best ILB in the conference, which is nonsense, with all the defensive player of the week awards he has had the last two years.




And the players ahead of him don't even rank that great, statistically:

Mays (NIU) - #12 LB in Tackles, not among top 5 LB in Sacks, not among top 9 LB in TFL. NIU ranks # 6 overall in the conference in yardage allowed.
Valdez (BG) - #3 LB in Tackles, not among top 5 LB in Sacks, not among top 9 LB in TFL. BG ranks #10 overall in the conference in yardage allowed.
Ibe (EMU) - #1 overall in Tackles, not among top 5 LB in Sacks, #6 LB in TFL. EMU ranks #13 overall in the conference in yardage allowed.
Santos-Knox (UMass) - #3 overall in Tackles, not among top 5 LB in Sacks, not among top 9 LB in TFL. UMass ranks #11 overall in the conference in yardage allowed.
Dellinger (Kent) - #15 LB in Tackles, not among top 5 LB in Sacks, not among top 9 LB in TFL. Kent ranks #3 overall in the conference in yardage allowed.
Poling (Ohio) - #25 LB in Tackles, #4 LB in Sacks, not among top 9 LB in TFL. Ohio ranks #4 overall in the conference in yardage allowed.

Tackles is a misleading statistic because a bad defense gives a good player more of an opportunity to make tackles, if the offense is getting more and more first downs. Sacks, TFL, and overall defense are better indicators, IMO, of an ILB's performance.

Throw in Poling's #10 overall rank in conference in Interceptions and #6 overall in Forced Fumbles (only Ibe from the list above ranks in either category, at #3 in forced fumbles)....and remember that he did all of that MISSING THREE GAMES!!!!!

Mays from NIU had 2 West Division DPOW awards. No one else at the position had multiple awards. Poling had it 3 times.

Total and complete joke.

EDIT: I'll add that I think Ibe ahead of Poling is justifiable based on the stats. But anyone else? Nope.

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   Posted: 12/2/2015 2:09:42 PM 
Valley Cat wrote:
Poling three time East Player of the week on defense. Earns third team. Joke.


+1

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   Posted: 12/2/2015 3:29:10 PM 
Stunter...B-I-N-G-O!

I think FS is a good coach and has a "system" thing going. But, to make it to the very top of the MAC, I think we need a more better players. the next time to see if these rankings are a joke or not will be the NFL draft/FA signings.
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   Posted: 12/2/2015 4:52:30 PM 
I think you really take a hit if you miss a bunch of time due to injury. That has to be why Poling is not higher up, even though he's better than most. Example, NIU's RB Bouagnon put up big yardage stats and TDs, playing every game. But I would put him 3rd-team at best, having watched him play, and just looking at ypc average as well.
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   Posted: 12/2/2015 5:13:21 PM 
I recall a similar thread where there was a list of all mac selections compared to wins over a period of time and the two lists matched up perfectly (most wins had most awards, least had least) with the glaring exception of Ohio that was near the top of list in wins and near the bottom of the list in individual awards. Anyone else remember that?

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   Posted: 12/2/2015 5:23:29 PM 
Casper71 wrote:
Stunter...B-I-N-G-O!

I think FS is a good coach and has a "system" thing going. But, to make it to the very top of the MAC, I think we need a more better players. the next time to see if these rankings are a joke or not will be the NFL draft/FA signings.


Casper71...B-I-N-G-O

The thing is, the check is in the mail. It was "more better players" that turned 6-6 into 8-4 and just took down NIU. Seniors honored above were McQueen, Powell and Wells. Coming up are Lowery, Pruehs and Provitt. Two out of three will step in at the same level with potential to be better. Provitt, might just be the next Carrie or Wells. Next year's "more better players" are already on the roster. Can not wait to see Sayles, Basham, Laseak, Poling, Brown, Moore, Aloese, Porter, Smart, Provitt, Watson , McCray, Wood, Cope, Smith, Reid, Davis, Nelson, Howell, Hagen, McKnight, Crouch, Pleasants, Anderson, Belack, and Ball etc. all bigger, stronger and faster. A little faith is all that is required.

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   Posted: 12/2/2015 7:15:56 PM 
bshot44 wrote:
allen wrote:
bshot44 wrote:
1. Kind of sad and disappointing that we only have one player on the 1st & 2nd team combined.

2. Total joke that Quinton Poling is 3rd team...he was defensive player of the week like 8 times this year wasn't he????


Finally, we agree on something.


We agree on more than you are giving us credit for....


You are right, sorry.

Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes
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   Posted: 12/2/2015 7:17:40 PM 
OhioStunter wrote:
So does this make Frank's coaching performance even better, given he has only one player at least second-team all-conference?

Or does this make Frank's recruiting seem sub-par, as other MAC schools appear to have more top-quality players at certain positions?


Recruiting is a big part of coaching. There is no GM in the college game.

Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes
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   Posted: 12/2/2015 7:33:05 PM 
When I was coaching high school volleyball for 9 years, we never worried about awards because they were so subjective and often political. All we carried about were league championships and how far we could advance in the state tournament.
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   Posted: 12/2/2015 8:54:18 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
When I was coaching high school volleyball for 9 years, we never worried about awards because they were so subjective and often political. All we carried about were league championships and how far we could advance in the state tournament.


Agree 100%. Our team should have a collective chip on their shoulder for all the individual snubs as they head to Detroit for the MAC Championship game.....er.....never mind.

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Alan Swank wrote:
When I was coaching high school volleyball for 9 years, we never worried about awards because they were so subjective and often political. All we carried about were league championships and how far we could advance in the state tournament.


We're fans and this is a message board. It's our duty to bitch and moan and scream about the lack of respect.
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   Posted: 12/2/2015 9:59:42 PM 
perimeterpost wrote:
I recall a similar thread where there was a list of all mac selections compared to wins over a period of time and the two lists matched up perfectly (most wins had most awards, least had least) with the glaring exception of Ohio that was near the top of list in wins and near the bottom of the list in individual awards. Anyone else remember that?

Yes I remember that thread. I did the math for this year, and awarded 5 points for first team, 3 points for 2d team, and 1 point for third team. Here are the results:

NIU 47pts 6 conference wins
BG 38, 7
Toledo 34, 6
WMU 29, 6
Kent 19, 2
CMU 18, 6
Ball St 18, 2
UMass 14, 2
Buffalo 13, 3
Akron 11, 5
Ohio 7, 5
Maimi 4, 2
EMU 4, 0



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   Posted: 12/3/2015 12:09:08 AM 
L.C. wrote:
perimeterpost wrote:
I recall a similar thread where there was a list of all mac selections compared to wins over a period of time and the two lists matched up perfectly (most wins had most awards, least had least) with the glaring exception of Ohio that was near the top of list in wins and near the bottom of the list in individual awards. Anyone else remember that?

Yes I remember that thread. I did the math for this year, and awarded 5 points for first team, 3 points for 2d team, and 1 point for third team. Here are the results:

NIU 47pts 6 conference wins
BG 38, 7
Toledo 34, 6
WMU 29, 6
Kent 19, 2
CMU 18, 6
Ball St 18, 2
UMass 14, 2
Buffalo 13, 3
Akron 11, 5
Ohio 7, 5
Maimi 4, 2
EMU 4, 0





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