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Mike Johnson
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  Message Not Read  Season surprises
   Posted: 11/20/2015 10:19:21 AM 
With the season nearing its end I found myself thinking about big surprises. As to the Bobcats, the biggest surprise for me was the way the team wilted after Poling went out with 3 minutes to go in the 2nd quarter against WMU. I'd thought the Cats had sufficient depth and mental toughness to avoid the collapse that ensued during the next 2.5 games.

Other major surprises:

* Washington State lost its season opener to FCS Portland State. Well, no surprise there, given WSU's not having had a winning season since 2003. But since that loss to Portland State? The Cougars have lost only at Cal (by 6) and to Stanford (by2) and have won 7, including wins over Oregon, Arizona, Arizona State and UCLA. What happened?

* UCF. Over the last 3 seasons the Knights had gone 31-9. This season? 0-11. What happened?

Big surprises for you - the Bobcats and otherwise?


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  Message Not Read  RE: Season surprises
   Posted: 11/20/2015 11:27:13 AM 
Yeah, I think finding out just how much Poling means to the defense was the biggest shocker for me. I knew he was good, but I didn't know he was the hub from which the spokes all fitted. The wheels came off the wagon.
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Pataskala
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  Message Not Read  RE: Season surprises
   Posted: 11/20/2015 12:24:48 PM 
Mike Johnson wrote:


* UCF. Over the last 3 seasons the Knights had gone 31-9. This season? 0-11. What happened?



ESPN mentioned during last night's game that UCF has had a TON of injuries on the offensive side of the ball this season. Every starter has missed at least one game, and most have missed more than three. A lot of freshman working the offense these days. That said, I think O'Leary's time had passed. Not so much age as mindset. He had planned to retire this year anyway. Watching them last night was very painful. They scored on the opening drive then gave up 44 straight. Lots of physical and mental errors.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Season surprises
   Posted: 11/20/2015 12:33:30 PM 
Temple Owls

And I agree on Poling. I think we win the Minny game if he plays in the 2nd half.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Season surprises
   Posted: 11/20/2015 4:46:36 PM 
We may win Minne if Poling plays the 2nd half...or if we didn't give up trying to score on our last drive before the half of that game.

But don't tell me that he'd have done much to stop the drubbings (beefs, wmu, bg).

And, injuries, like it or not are part of the game. To lament guys who couldn't play is wishful thinking, ignores reality.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Season surprises
   Posted: 11/20/2015 9:54:44 PM 
The fast starts we've had this season. We've outscored the opposition 91-37 in the first quarter and didn't give up a first quarter TD until the WMU game. We've had six games where we never trailed.

Also, the overall performance of the defense. Take away the three blowout losses and the D has given up 125 points in the other eight games -- 15 points per game. We've had three games without giving up a TD (Akron, Fiami, Kent).

That in this age of replay reviews, so many key games have been decided by blown calls.

Last Edited: 11/20/2015 10:01:52 PM by Pataskala


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Ted Thompson
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  Message Not Read  RE: Season surprises
   Posted: 11/20/2015 10:46:05 PM 
Mike Johnson wrote:
With the season nearing its end I found myself thinking about big surprises. As to the Bobcats, the biggest surprise for me was the way the team wilted after Poling went out with 3 minutes to go in the 2nd quarter against WMU. I'd thought the Cats had sufficient depth and mental toughness to avoid the collapse that ensued during the next 2.5 games.

Other major surprises:

* Washington State lost its season opener to FCS Portland State. Well, no surprise there, given WSU's not having had a winning season since 2003. But since that loss to Portland State? The Cougars have lost only at Cal (by 6) and to Stanford (by2) and have won 7, including wins over Oregon, Arizona, Arizona State and UCLA. What happened?

* UCF. Over the last 3 seasons the Knights had gone 31-9. This season? 0-11. What happened?

Big surprises for you - the Bobcats and otherwise?


Kind of surprised that Helfrich has been able to disassemble a National Championship caliber program like Oregon so quickly. Anyone done it more quickly without the help of NCAA sanctions?


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  Message Not Read  RE: Season surprises
   Posted: 11/21/2015 5:59:28 AM 
Ted Thompson wrote:
Mike Johnson wrote:
With the season nearing its end I found myself thinking about big surprises. As to the Bobcats, the biggest surprise for me was the way the team wilted after Poling went out with 3 minutes to go in the 2nd quarter against WMU. I'd thought the Cats had sufficient depth and mental toughness to avoid the collapse that ensued during the next 2.5 games.

Other major surprises:

* Washington State lost its season opener to FCS Portland State. Well, no surprise there, given WSU's not having had a winning season since 2003. But since that loss to Portland State? The Cougars have lost only at Cal (by 6) and to Stanford (by2) and have won 7, including wins over Oregon, Arizona, Arizona State and UCLA. What happened?

* UCF. Over the last 3 seasons the Knights had gone 31-9. This season? 0-11. What happened?

Big surprises for you - the Bobcats and otherwise?


Kind of surprised that Helfrich has been able to disassemble a National Championship caliber program like Oregon so quickly. Anyone done it more quickly without the help of NCAA sanctions?



And it hasn't taken Harsin at Boise State very long to take that team out of the national discussion. Can't even win their conference.
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C Money
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  Message Not Read  RE: Season surprises
   Posted: 11/21/2015 7:38:07 AM 
Ted Thompson wrote:

Kind of surprised that Helfrich has been able to disassemble a National Championship caliber program like Oregon so quickly. Anyone done it more quickly without the help of NCAA sanctions?



That system needs the superhuman QB to work, and the last-minute FCS transfer didn't cut it this season. Not sure what they have in the cupboard after him, but it will be interesting to see whether Oregon bounces back next year.
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Mike Johnson
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  Message Not Read  RE: Season surprises
   Posted: 11/21/2015 10:42:21 AM 
C Money wrote:
Ted Thompson wrote:

Kind of surprised that Helfrich has been able to disassemble a National Championship caliber program like Oregon so quickly. Anyone done it more quickly without the help of NCAA sanctions?



That system needs the superhuman QB to work, and the last-minute FCS transfer didn't cut it this season. Not sure what they have in the cupboard after him, but it will be interesting to see whether Oregon bounces back next year.


Something to keep in mind: Until Oregon struck it "ooach rich," it had endured some 25 straight losing seasons.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Season surprises
   Posted: 11/23/2015 7:27:34 AM 
There's been quite a few surprises throughout the season all across the country:

1. The rise of the AAC - Temple, Navy, Houston and Memphis have all had their day in the sun this year. Now even UConn and USF are getting in on the act. This conference has seven bowl eligible teams and could get eight.

2. Washington State - someone has already mentioned what they've done this year.

3. Southern Miss - After going 11-2 under Larry Fedora in 2011, the Golden Eagles completely fell off the map and won a total of four games in three years. This year they are 8-3 and could win the C-USA West.

4. Coaching Carousel - it's always turning, but this year has seen more departures and firings than I can remember. Hell, Illinois fired a coach before the year started.

5. Iowa - every year Kirk Ferentz is on the hot seat because he's underachieving. Well he's quieted the critics for at least another two to three years with this team. If they win the B1G and go to the Playoff, they'll build a statue of him outside Kinnick Stadium.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Season surprises
   Posted: 11/23/2015 7:28:33 AM 
Mike Johnson wrote:
C Money wrote:
Ted Thompson wrote:

Kind of surprised that Helfrich has been able to disassemble a National Championship caliber program like Oregon so quickly. Anyone done it more quickly without the help of NCAA sanctions?



That system needs the superhuman QB to work, and the last-minute FCS transfer didn't cut it this season. Not sure what they have in the cupboard after him, but it will be interesting to see whether Oregon bounces back next year.


Something to keep in mind: Until Oregon struck it "ooach rich," it had endured some 25 straight losing seasons.


Oregon is on fire right now. I think Adams' injury to his throwing hand early in the year was a lot worse than people made it out to be. He's a great QB now that he's healthy.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Season surprises
   Posted: 11/23/2015 9:12:35 PM 
Surprise to me: how Akron trashed Buffalo?
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   Posted: 11/24/2015 7:20:06 AM 
What? Ohio rushing for 900 yards last three game. Never thought that at this point, looking at the losses of McQueen, Lucas and Powell to graduation, next season's OL might be even better. Get Lowery, Anderson & McCray back from injury, add Pleasants and Grimes and well, just "Damn!!!." :-).

Last Edited: 11/24/2015 7:22:54 AM by Bcat2


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   Posted: 11/24/2015 9:35:37 AM 
Papi.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Season surprises
   Posted: 11/24/2015 11:21:31 PM 
Ohio beating NIU on the road
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  Message Not Read  RE: Season surprises
   Posted: 11/24/2015 11:32:49 PM 
Casper71 wrote:
Ohio beating NIU on the road


That's 2 in a row. Ohio's last loss in DeKalb was in 2003 when Ohio(2-10) lost in OT to #17NIU(10-2).


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