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Ted Thompson
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  Message Not Read  Official Game 11 Thread: Ball St.
   Posted: 11/11/2015 11:39:29 PM 

Use this thread to talk about anything game-related. For away games, we'll have a separate travel thread.

Date: November 17th, 2015  7:00 PM

Opponent: Ball St.  (3-7, 2-4 MAC)

Site: Peden Stadium

TV: ESPNU

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OL Nick Gibbons - Questionable
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CB Curtis Brunson - Questionable
TE Connor Brown - Questionable
CB Devin Bass - Questionable
RB Papi White - Questionable
DE Trent Smart - Doubtful
OT Joe Lowery - Out for season
S  Kylan Nelson - Out for season 
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Ball St.
   Posted: 11/12/2015 12:02:01 AM 
Wins have come against VMI, Eastern Michigan and UMass. Winnable home game for sure which could provide positive momentum for season finale at NIU.
It would be nice to get Papi back for this game for some game reps prior to Northern and possible bowl game.
I keep wondering if Poling had not been hurt how it would have impacted the 3 losses. WMU is the game where he was hurt and our defense imploded.
Keeping my fingers crossed for 8-4 and decent bowl game.
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   Posted: 11/12/2015 9:43:06 AM 
There are not many players in all of college football whose impact is felt more than Poling's. It is obvious that the defense brings an entirely different swagger when he is in the lineup.
The long-term weather forecast is for an unusually warm Tuesday ( a high of 66 degrees). That, coupled with an earlier (7pm) start time bodes well for a decent sized crowd for our home finale. Go 'Cats.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Ball St.
   Posted: 11/12/2015 9:53:10 AM 
I have to believe that winning this one nails down a bowl bid. Losing it eliminates a chance at a bowl in my opinion, because winning at NIU is a tough one to expect to win.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Ball St.
   Posted: 11/12/2015 10:31:24 AM 
Parkersburgwvcat wrote:
There are not many players in all of college football whose impact is felt more than Poling's. It is obvious that the defense brings an entirely different swagger when he is in the lineup.
The long-term weather forecast is for an unusually warm Tuesday ( a high of 66 degrees). That, coupled with an earlier (7pm) start time bodes well for a decent sized crowd for our home finale. Go 'Cats.


First, let me say that Poling is our one player who can be considered 'a playmaker.'

Second, though, I believe that the view that 'in all of college football' he's that impactful reflects a too-often-seen-here Ohio-centric point of view. Too many here don't get that for several years we are about the 90th best team in college football, so generally irrelevant in a big way to 98% of the college football world.

If you think anyone at any of the top 40 programs would accept what we've seen over the last 40 games without being seriously up in arms, then you don't understand real, big bucks college football.



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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Ball St.
   Posted: 11/12/2015 10:34:58 AM 
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Parkersburgwvcat wrote:
There are not many players in all of college football whose impact is felt more than Poling's. It is obvious that the defense brings an entirely different swagger when he is in the lineup.
The long-term weather forecast is for an unusually warm Tuesday ( a high of 66 degrees). That, coupled with an earlier (7pm) start time bodes well for a decent sized crowd for our home finale. Go 'Cats.


First, let me say that Poling is our one player who can be considered 'a playmaker.'

Second, though, I believe that the view that 'in all of college football' he's that impactful reflects a too-often-seen-here Ohio-centric point of view. Too many here don't get that for several years we are about the 90th best team in college football, so generally irrelevant in a big way to 98% of the college football world.

If you think anyone at any of the top 40 programs would accept what we've seen over the last 40 games without being seriously up in arms, then you don't understand real, big bucks college football.



We are not "big bucks" college football.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Ball St.
   Posted: 11/12/2015 10:55:59 AM 
Ball State is a team that has really under-performed this year. They have played well at times, though, but not well enough to win. They lost by only 5 to a very good Northwestern team, and by only 2 to Toledo. Ohio should win, but it will not be as easy as Ball State's record might make you think.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Ball St.
   Posted: 11/12/2015 11:06:08 AM 
L.C. wrote:
Ball State is a team that has really under-performed this year. They have played well at times, though, but not well enough to win. They lost by only 5 to a very good Northwestern team, and by only 2 to Toledo. Ohio should win, but it will not be as easy as Ball State's record might make you think.


I agree completely. I watched the Northwestern game (ranked #19 at the time) and I thought BSU had a great shot at winning. I've also watch bits and pieces of some of their other games and they always look like a better team than what the final scoreboard says. I hope that their scoreboard deficit continues one more week.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Ball St.
   Posted: 11/12/2015 11:24:10 AM 
Get on them early. Pound the football. Kent was inept on offense. Ball State not as much.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Ball St.
   Posted: 11/12/2015 11:40:34 AM 
While the return of Poling certainly sparked the Ohio defense....Kent was about as challenging as stopping the Trimble Tomcat JV team.

Slowing/stopping Ball State's offense will be the true test of whether this defense has turned the corner from their disastrous stretch of WMU/UB/BG.

Not that Ball State is an offensive juggernaut, but they do have a pulse. And we proved (especially vs. UB) that we couldn't stop anything with a pulse during those 3 games.

This will go a long way in determining whether we have any prayer vs. NIU or in a bowl game.

And, I do think that at 6-6 we make a bowl. Sorry...there are just too many slots to fill at this point.

As bad as their offense is, I don't see Akron getting to 7-5...maybe 6-6 (and we'd get in at 6-6 before them)

And if Akron does get to 7-5 (or 6-6) that means they might have beaten Buffalo which leaves them at 6-6 probably....not sure a bowl would take UB (and their miserable fan base) over ours at 6-6

CMU will get to 7-5 (Kent and EMU left)
WMU at worst goes 6-6 (which is likely with NIU and Toledo left)
NIU/Toledo/BG are your guaranteed 7/8/9/10 win MAC teams

So that's 5 for sure from that group....

I think even at 6-6, we are the best option for a 6th MAC bowl team (unless Akron gets to 7-5)

And if that's the case...as I said earlier....we get in to that 7th slot at 6-6 over Buffalo at 6-6 (even tho UB crushed us earlier....it's all about TV ratings/$$$/fan travel when it comes to bowls....and we have more cachet than UB)

Last Edited: 11/12/2015 11:52:20 AM by bshot44
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Ball St.
   Posted: 11/12/2015 11:47:56 AM 
Monroe, could you enlighten me on the resources, staffing, budget, ticket sales, marketing, etc. that comes with a top 40 program, i.e. Penn St, USC, Oregon, Texas, Arkansas, West Virginia, Louisville, etc. I'm a Bobcat fan forever, and am disappointed in the team's season. But how do you compare our team to anyone other than MAC/Sun Belt/CUSA is beyond my understanding.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Ball St.
   Posted: 11/12/2015 12:04:24 PM 
bshot44 wrote:
...And if Akron does get to 7-5 (or 6-6) that means they might have beaten Buffalo which leaves them at 6-6 probably....not sure a bowl would take UB (and their miserable fan base) over ours at 6-6 ...

I think Akron will beat both Kent and Miami, and Buffalo will beat U.Mass. That means that both Akron and Buffalo will be bowl eligible, with the winner of the Akron-Buffalo game being 7-5, and the loser being 6-6.

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   Posted: 11/12/2015 12:23:47 PM 
I would not be totally stunned if Miami beats Akron in Oxford this wknd.....
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  Message Not Read  RE: Official Game 11 Thread: Ball St.
   Posted: 11/12/2015 1:31:17 PM 
Joe Green wrote:
Monroe, could you enlighten me on the resources, staffing, budget, ticket sales, marketing, etc. that comes with a top 40 program, i.e. Penn St, USC, Oregon, Texas, Arkansas, West Virginia, Louisville, etc. I'm a Bobcat fan forever, and am disappointed in the team's season. But how do you compare our team to anyone other than MAC/Sun Belt/CUSA is beyond my understanding.


I get that we're not at that level. But that's not really my point. I was responding to the thought that one of our players was at the very peak of effective players in college football. That's not likely given that we play well below that peak. (Also, playing every game..avoiding injuries.. is part of that peak effectiveness, like it or not.)

That said, I remain firmly disappointed that we've no MAC title over the course of Solich's term, especially being nowhere near that level in the last four seasons.

If we're going to have a program, it's got to be better than not very competitive in MAC.

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   Posted: 11/12/2015 2:14:43 PM 
L.C. wrote:
bshot44 wrote:
...And if Akron does get to 7-5 (or 6-6) that means they might have beaten Buffalo which leaves them at 6-6 probably....not sure a bowl would take UB (and their miserable fan base) over ours at 6-6 ...


I think Akron will beat both Kent and Miami, and Buffalo will beat U.Mass. That means that both Akron and Buffalo will be bowl eligible, with the winner of the Akron-Buffalo game being 7-5, and the loser being 6-6.





These two posts are exactly why I think beating Ball St is crucial to getting a bowl bid. 7-5 cements it. 6-6, and Ohio is just another MAC team at 6-6 with 2,3,4 others.
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   Posted: 11/12/2015 2:36:18 PM 
One of the things that I find kind of funny about how bowl season works is that we may end up sneaking into a bowl game, even with a 6-6 record, to help fill a void another conference cannot fill. We could possibly go to a more "name brand" bowl as a result of this than those who finished higher in the conference standings.

This game coming up I think is a great opportunity to show some pride and play all out to end the home slate on a high note. While I think we will have a respectable showing against NIU, Ball State appears to be the best chance to get one more win this year. We are pretty evenly matched at this point I think so we need to come out and smack them early and often.

They've had our number the past two games where they picked our pocket 23-20 and then pounded us 52-27 the last time we met. We owe them a loss.

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   Posted: 11/12/2015 3:50:17 PM 
L.C. wrote:
. . . . That means that both Akron and Buffalo will be bowl eligible, with the winner of the Akron-Buffalo game being 7-5, and the loser being 6-6.
Hair-on-fire alert: This means that Akron could end up with a winning record and they were beaten by OHIO.

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   Posted: 11/12/2015 3:58:14 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
L.C. wrote:
. . . . That means that both Akron and Buffalo will be bowl eligible, with the winner of the Akron-Buffalo game being 7-5, and the loser being 6-6.
Hair-on-fire alert: This means that Akron could end up with a winning record and they were beaten by OHIO.



I'll print the t-shirts:

"2015: A SEASON TO REMEMBER"

"THE DROUGHT IS OVER"

"OHIO IS NOW 1-13 VS. WINNING MAC TEAMS SINCE 2012"

"OHIO 14, AKRON 12"

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   Posted: 11/12/2015 7:31:19 PM 
We owe Ball State for sure ! I was at that big loss over in Muncie, and it was not pretty. This game on Tuesday is a big one for the *cats !
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   Posted: 11/12/2015 8:46:14 PM 
bshot44 wrote:


I'll print the t-shirts:

"2015: A SEASON TO REMEMBER"

"THE DROUGHT IS OVER"

"OHIO IS NOW 1-13 VS. WINNING MAC TEAMS SINCE 2012"

"OHIO 14, AKRON 12"

"#NEVERFORGET"


ROTFL!

I'll buy one . . .

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   Posted: 11/13/2015 9:12:58 AM 
1 plus for Ball State is the amount of time off between their last game and our game. I think it will be 11 days, where Ohio will only have 6.
Rest at this time of year is a real advantage.





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   Posted: 11/13/2015 11:28:33 AM 
doubledribble wrote:
We owe Ball State for sure ! I was at that big loss over in Muncie, and it was not pretty. This game on Tuesday is a big one for the *cats !


Yes. For sure. My blood is already boiling. So ready for this game.

If we can get a W, there's a chance at getting to 8 wins against NIU (I'll be at that game) which I think, all things considered, would be a fairly good season.

What a day at the Convo.....Wow!

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   Posted: 11/14/2015 10:23:48 AM 
BSU definitely has its problems. Their QB is a redshirt freshman who's going through growing pains. Very inconsistent. Their best defensive player, DE Joshua Posley, is questionable for Tuesday with a MCL injury (not a tear) in his knee. And their third-best receiver, Corey Lacanaria, won't play; he's suspended after being arrested for a hit-and-run accident.

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   Posted: 11/15/2015 6:12:36 PM 
We open as 7pt favorites.
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   Posted: 11/16/2015 8:40:33 AM 
BobcatSports wrote:
We open as 7pt favorites.


money coming in on Ohio as the line now stands at 9.5 at my online book...
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