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Bcat2
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Posted: 11/16/2015 5:31:55 AM |
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Posted: 11/16/2015 1:41:34 PM |
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I don't know. It's a well recognized baseball managing tactic to get tossed as a way to light a fire under your players. Speaking for myself, I wouldn't mind seeing enough fire emanate from OUr sideline to get a flag in a given situation. It would interesting to see if it would affect play on the field beyond the penalty series.
Since a coach can no longer smack you on the back of your helmet coming off the field, this might be the next best thing. (I didn't say that out loud, did I?)
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Posted: 11/16/2015 4:04:02 PM |
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I don't know. It's a well recognized baseball managing tactic to get tossed as a way to light a fire under your players. Speaking for myself, I wouldn't mind seeing enough fire emanate from OUr sideline to get a flag in a given situation. It would interesting to see if it would affect play on the field beyond the penalty series.
Since a coach can no longer smack you on the back of your helmet coming off the field, this might be the next best thing. (I didn't say that out loud, did I?) |
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Times have changed. Pelini became an embarrassment to Nebraska, so much so it became worth 6.5 M to see him leave. Guess Nebraska was spoiled during the Osborne/Solich run when they won 250 games faster than it had ever been done and "gosh darn" was a serious rant. Nothing about football requires disrespecting others. Again, Osborne won 250 faster than it had ever been done and to my knowledge never modeled disrespect in his behavior. Working the officials need not include obvious disrespect. People with authority over such things should protect players from coaches who use disrespect to relate and establish discipline. A flag means the coach crossed the line into disrespect and I disagree with you that it would be interesting to see.
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Posted: 11/16/2015 4:27:29 PM |
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Is that asst. coach on the sideline giving an earful to the ref Bo's brother? Sure likes it.
Watching that video is not unlike watching a train wreck. Or perhaps a better analogy would be reading the Mizzou football thread on BA.com.
Last Edited: 11/16/2015 4:30:06 PM by bobcatsquared
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Posted: 11/16/2015 4:39:08 PM |
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The man is an embarrassment in how he treats people! It's not hard to see why so many jobs passed him by and why Nebraska showed him the door.
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Posted: 11/16/2015 4:44:58 PM |
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This is not another high-minded social commentary about respect for (perceived) authority or similar. I'm just saying once in a while show me that you really, really, do give a s#%@.
Nobody thinks less of a basketball coach who gets T'd up or, moreso, those who jump up and down and rip off their suit coats and don't get T'd up. Why should football be different?
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Posted: 11/16/2015 5:03:01 PM |
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| . . . Nobody thinks less of a basketball coach who gets T'd up or, moreso, those who jump up and down and rip off their suit coats and don't get T'd up. Why should football be different? |
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Depends, if it's a rare thing and only happens with a really, really bad call, like an academy award winning charging flop or a safety on the four-yard line, you don't lose respect. In fact, it may increase respect. However, when it happens all the time, to some extent or other in nearly every game, as it does with Pelini, it's another matter. He's got a real anger management problem. I remember one Nebraska game that I watched where I thought Bo was literally going to punch the official.
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Posted: 11/16/2015 8:02:13 PM |
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This is not another high-minded social commentary about respect for (perceived) authority or similar. I'm just saying once in a while show me that you really, really, do give a s#%@.
Nobody thinks less of a basketball coach who gets T'd up or, moreso, those who jump up and down and rip off their suit coats and don't get T'd up. Why should football be different? |
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I invite you to research Bo's address to players after he was let go. It is out there. The terms he used toward the powers that be who determined to buy out his contract were enough to confirm to me they were doing the right thing. The "respect" thing is for everyone. Coaches at all levels need to be grownups who model good behavior. As a player I was fortunate to have such coaches. During games it was good to see our coaches under control, all about what we needed to do next, not obsessing about something plays ago. My best coaches were always calm and in control. When I would see other team's coaches ranting I would feel sorry for their players. Calm control was something I tried to emulate. I can not remember anyone I coached ever doing something wrong on purpose. Coaches need to personally own what happens on the field, keep their heads in the game and work with the officials to manage a good contest. It is possible to disagree with an official and make it very clear that your coaches eyes clearly saw something differently without looking like a child throwing a fit. JMHO
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Posted: 11/16/2015 10:27:18 PM |
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No one ever disputed whether Pelini could coach. The only questions about him were related to his demeanor. From the perspective of the Athletic Director, I suspect he was a very difficult employee.
“We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus
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Posted: 11/16/2015 10:40:18 PM |
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| Bcat2 wrote: | |
| Bobcatbob wrote: | |
This is not another high-minded social commentary about respect for (perceived) authority or similar. I'm just saying once in a while show me that you really, really, do give a s#%@.
Nobody thinks less of a basketball coach who gets T'd up or, moreso, those who jump up and down and rip off their suit coats and don't get T'd up. Why should football be different? |
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I invite you to research Bo's address to players after he was let go. It is out there. The terms he used toward the powers that be who determined to buy out his contract were enough to confirm to me they were doing the right thing. The "respect" thing is for everyone. Coaches at all levels need to be grownups who model good behavior. As a player I was fortunate to have such coaches. During games it was good to see our coaches under control, all about what we needed to do next, not obsessing about something plays ago. My best coaches were always calm and in control. When I would see other team's coaches ranting I would feel sorry for their players. Calm control was something I tried to emulate. I can not remember anyone I coached ever doing something wrong on purpose. Coaches need to personally own what happens on the field, keep their heads in the game and work with the officials to manage a good contest. It is possible to disagree with an official and make it very clear that your coaches eyes clearly saw something differently without looking like a child throwing a fit. JMHO |
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Posted: 11/16/2015 10:52:45 PM |
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Interesting OHIO relevant quote at about the 20:55 mark:
"I was here in 2003 when they did this to Frank."
This was in the context of list of coaches who had been fired inappropriately.
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Posted: 11/16/2015 11:01:02 PM |
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The sad thing here is that the question "Did Bo learn anything from his discharge and second chance?" may have been answered.
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Posted: 11/16/2015 11:12:47 PM |
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I also didn't realize until I looked at some this stuff that the Pelini family hails from Youngstown. That may explain a lot about Bo's behavior! ;-)
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Posted: 11/17/2015 11:44:23 AM |
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| The sad thing here is that the question "Did Bo learn anything from his discharge and second chance?" may have been answered. |
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He walked away a millionaire, and if you know him he is not about his own personal accountability.
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Posted: 11/17/2015 1:14:52 PM |
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| The sad thing here is that the question "Did Bo learn anything from his discharge and second chance?" may have been answered. |
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He walked away a millionaire, and if you know him he is not about his own personal accountability.
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Did anyone read anything about his assistants. Were they taken care of in the buyout?
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Posted: 11/17/2015 1:30:14 PM |
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most every assistant coach in America works on a year to year contract
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