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That one crazy fan
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  Message Not Read  Yet again...
   Posted: 11/17/2015 10:17:29 PM 
Yet again we are 5 yards out at the end of the game on National TV, yet again we decide to not score despite being 5 yards out at the end of the game on National TV. I don't care how far up we are, we are 5 freaking yards out on National TV.

Last Edited: 11/17/2015 10:20:22 PM by That one crazy fan


The opposing team sucks!

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Mark Lembright '85
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/17/2015 10:23:00 PM 
That one crazy fan wrote:
Yet again we are 5 yards out at the end of the game on National TV, yet again we decide to not score despite being 5 yards out at the end of the game on National TV. I don't care how far up we are, we are 5 freaking yards out on National TV.


Okay........I guess we have to find something to complain about. Cue Allen and Monroe.

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colobobcat66
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/17/2015 10:23:18 PM 
That one crazy fan wrote:
Yet again we are 5 yards out at the end of the game on National TV, yet again we decide to not score despite being 5 yards out at the end of the game on National TV. I don't care how far up we are, we are 5 freaking yards out on National TV.


Great sportsmanship bro.
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Pataskala
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/17/2015 10:38:37 PM 
Several reasons not to go for yet another TD in that situation:

1. Going for another score is classless crap. No need to rub it in.

2. Solich and Lembo have too much respect for one another.

3. BSU waived the white flag when they kicked the extra point after their last TD instead of going for two and trying to make it a two-possession game. It was over.

4. Why risk getting somebody else hurt to score a useless TD.


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LuckySparrow
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/17/2015 10:38:39 PM 
I've never seen the need for faux sportsmanship. Just punch it in!


What a day at the Convo.....Wow!

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UpSan Bobcat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/17/2015 10:54:04 PM 
They didn't even take any knees. They had multiple plays they could have scored on. Time ran out first. What did you want them to do? Call timeouts?
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L.C.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/17/2015 11:10:50 PM 
I'm sure that Dorian Brown had a green light to try to score on every carry, but, since he didn't score, it would have been classless to call time out to take more shots at a TD that they didn't need. Also, how would you feel if they did try that, and someone got hurt in the process?


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OhioCatFan
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/17/2015 11:18:12 PM 
OHIO could have easily scored a meaningless FG at the end. Frank will *never* run up a score. I heard him say in his pre-game interview what a good coach and good friend Lembo was and how he'd get BSU off the mat next year and they'd bounce back. He's not going to rub a friend's face in he dirt. Though as a fan I really wanted to crack 50 points, I fully understand how Frank managed the last part of the game. Frank's not only a fine coach, but he's a gentleman as well.


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The Optimist
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/17/2015 11:28:09 PM 
Pataskala wrote:

3. BSU waived the white flag when they kicked the extra point after their last TD instead of going for two and trying to make it a two-possession game. It was over.

That was dumb. I hate coaches who quit before the game is over. Reminds me of the guys in the chat room saying the game is over 2 minutes in.

Dumb.

Crazier things have happened. The coaches job is to put your team in a position to win. Quitting early doesn't accomplish that.


I've seen crazier things happen.

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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/17/2015 11:38:27 PM 
colobobcat66 wrote:
That one crazy fan wrote:
Yet again we are 5 yards out at the end of the game on National TV, yet again we decide to not score despite being 5 yards out at the end of the game on National TV. I don't care how far up we are, we are 5 freaking yards out on National TV.


Great sportsmanship bro.



+1

And applaud Frank and staff for their show of sportsmanship.
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allen
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/17/2015 11:39:46 PM 
Okay........I guess we have to find something to complain about. Cue Allen and Monroe.
I tell the truth, I am not negative. I love the Cats, I want the best for them. The coaches and the players want to win every game and the MACC every year, so do I. I bet when they game plan they expect to win, maybe except that press conference the week of the Minnesota game where our coach showed fear, they expect to win. As a fan, I tell them how I think they can win, not how they can be mediocre.


Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes

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cc-cat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/17/2015 11:44:42 PM 
allen wrote:
As a fan, I tell them how I think they can win, not how they can be mediocre.


Tell who? When?

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OhioStunter
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/17/2015 11:51:22 PM 
Wow.
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allen
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/18/2015 2:39:51 AM 
who feller, when feller?

To the coaches and the fans, this is a sight is in a free country where we can post how we feel about the team, the coaches, etc. I am sure some of the coaches read this site along with the fans.


Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes

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cc-cat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/18/2015 6:50:00 AM 
allen wrote:
who feller, when feller?

To the coaches and the fans, this is a sight is in a free country where we can post how we feel about the team, the coaches, etc. I am sure some of the coaches read this site along with the fans.


So the coaches get on here for insight on how YOU think they can win? That is funny. Funny funny stuff. That is like Monroe saying his responsibility is to help the team win.
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allen
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/18/2015 8:00:24 AM 
If coaches don't listen to the alumni and fans, they would get fired. I don't know if I can change their mind, but at least they know how I and others feel. As I said before, I like our coaches, but they have to do better. Every year a coach gets fired because fans believe they are underperforming, they put pressure on the AD and boom it's done. So if that is not your reality, then yes it is funny. You can try to undermine me and others, but you only make yourself look stupid. The fact is I am doing what I am entitled to do and my thoughts are rational, so when you try to discredit me, you have to be irrational. If thousands of fans said they wanted better Frank's seat would get hot. I like Frank, I just want to see us go to the next level.


Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes

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C Money
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/18/2015 8:28:57 AM 
I was a little surprised that we didn't kick the FG on 4th and 1, because to me that is less of a "running up the score" move than going for it from the 5, with the chance that the RB could take it to the end zone.
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Mike Coleman
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/18/2015 9:02:27 AM 
I don't think it mattered one way or another if we scored, but I'm pretty sure the goal was to ram it down their throats on the ground and not give them the ball back unless we did score. There's really nothing more demoralizing to a team than having an opponent run the last 6:38 off the clock on a drive using nothing but running plays and not give them the ball back.

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L.C.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/18/2015 9:29:37 AM 
Mike Coleman wrote:
I don't think it mattered one way or another if we scored, but I'm pretty sure the goal was to ram it down their throats on the ground and not give them the ball back unless we did score. There's really nothing more demoralizing to a team than having an opponent run the last 6:38 off the clock on a drive using nothing but running plays and not give them the ball back.

It's certainly an efficient and effective way to end the game, plus it rests the defense, and builds the team's confidence for the next week.

allen wrote:
... I am sure some of the coaches read this site along with the fans.

I'm fairly sure that none of the coaches read this site, but I'm sure that some the the Graduate Assistants, etc. do. I'd like to hope that none of the players read it, but I'm sure that some of them do, as well. In general coaches advise players to not read sites like this at all schools, not just Ohio, because the attitudes of fans that post on sites like this is generally toxic to player morale.


“We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus

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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/18/2015 9:36:29 AM 
To the potential Ohio coaches reading this post:

You have played, coached and studied the sport for 20, 30, 40, 50 years. I was a back-up guard who often peed in my uniform because I couldn't hold my bladder for the three hours during a game.

You can watch a play for three seconds and completely diagram it. I've Googled the term "Why is the middle linebacker named Mike" at one point in my life.

You have worked with and molded young men and made it your mission in life. I once screamed "NICE MUSTACHE" at Dave Wannstedt as I ran across the field at Peden Stadium.

You've picked up and moved your family multiple times to follow a dream, working countless hours. I expect overtime when I go over 40 and dread even moving from one house to another house in the same town.

BUT LISTEN TO ME ABOUT FOOTBALL!




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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/18/2015 9:37:56 AM 
Brian Smith wrote:
To the potential Ohio coaches reading this post:

You have played, coached and studied the sport for 20, 30, 40, 50 years. I was a back-up guard who often peed in my uniform because I couldn't hold my bladder for the three hours during a game.

You can watch a play for three seconds and completely diagram it. I've Googled the term "Why is the middle linebacker named Mike" at one point in my life.

You have worked with and molded young men and made it your mission in life. I once screamed "NICE MUSTACHE" at Dave Wannstedt as I ran across the field at Peden Stadium.

You've picked up and moved your family multiple times to follow a dream, working countless hours. I expect overtime when I go over 40 and dread even moving from one house to another house in the same town.

BUT LISTEN TO ME ABOUT FOOTBALL!






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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/18/2015 9:43:26 AM 
If you don't think some of the coaches read this site, you are in fantasy land. Maybe not the head coach, but coaches always want to know the fans sentiment. The fans at Michigan got their coach fired by going to their AD's house and I am not talking about this year when they lose to Michigan State where the Ad was fired for alienating the fans. Guess, what the AD did not ask the fans.
1. Did you play at Michigan?
2. How long have you coached?
3. What are your credential?
4. Is there a ballpoint in your pocket-protector?

Last Edited: 11/18/2015 9:54:49 AM by allen


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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/18/2015 9:48:53 AM 
Brian Smith wrote:
I've Googled the term "Why is the middle linebacker named Mike" at one point in my life.


OT: But this jargon is a football pet peeve of mine. He is not the Mike backer, the Sam backer, or the Will backer. He is the Middle linebacker, the Strong-side linebacker, or the Weak-side linebacker.

(And we're not even getting into the entire concept of a "Strong-side" versus a "Weak-side," with the players flipping sides depending on the offense's formation. Guess what the entire concept of a hurry up offense is? Get the defensive players out of position. GUESS WHAT DEFENSIVE PLAYERS ARE WHEN THEY'RE WAITING FOR THE OFFENSE TO LINE UP BEFORE THEY THEMSELVES GET SET????)
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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/18/2015 10:22:25 AM 
allen wrote:
If coaches don't listen to the alumni and fans, they would get fired. I don't know if I can change their mind, but at least they know how I and others feel. As I said before, I like our coaches, but they have to do better. Every year a coach gets fired because fans believe they are underperforming, they put pressure on the AD and boom it's done. So if that is not your reality, then yes it is funny. You can try to undermine me and others, but you only make yourself look stupid. The fact is I am doing what I am entitled to do and my thoughts are rational, so when you try to discredit me, you have to be irrational. If thousands of fans said they wanted better Frank's seat would get hot. I like Frank, I just want to see us go to the next level.


From my experience,posts on fan boards, in and of themselves, don't have much influence on an athletic department.

In revenue sports,renewing/not renewing season tickets,or purchasing tickets to individual games, is how athletic departments are influenced.

If ticket sales keep steady and "big" donors don't stop contributing,the complaints of 50 or so regular posters on a fan board aren't going to effect the A.D.

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  Message Not Read  RE: Yet again...
   Posted: 11/18/2015 10:44:53 AM 
PR disaster to try to score at that point, and an even bigger disaster if someone gets hurt. Good move by Frank.
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