BobcatAttack.com - For Fans of Ohio University Sports

Welcome Guest!
Create an Account

site search

where to watch

about us

advertise with us

help

BobcatAttack.com Message Board

Ohio Football

Topic: It's time for a change

Topic: It's time for a change

Author

Message

OU_Country
General User

Member Since: 12/6/2005
Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County
Post Count: 8,353

Status: Offline

It's time for a change

Posted: 11/5/2015 11:01:38 AM

After last night's debacle versus BG, I think we can all agree it's time for changes.

-Maybe it's time for us as fans to go back to only expecting to be entertained enough by football to get to the 110 halftime show?
-Perhaps it's time for fans to change our expectations of the football program?
-Is it time for changes in how recruiting is done?
-It might be time for changes in play calling or scheme.
-Maybe it's time to change methods in training to avoid the injury bug excuse?

I don't pretend to know the answers to what needs changed. I'm not going to call for heads to roll, because I don't know who would most likely need replaced for improvement to happen. What I do know, from my own perception, is that they've been doing things in a fairly similar way for the last 3 seasons, and have gotten similar average, to slightly above average, results. The first things I would be looking at is why they're starting a walk-on at tailback ,and why they can't seem to recruit a quarterback or two. (don't get me wrong, he's a great kid, but the difference in athleticism from him to most good MAC RB's is noticeable in my opinion). Since I know the last 3 weeks of results aren't what they want, something has to change. As I said on Twitter last night:

"It's time for Frank to do a serious soul search on how they do everything. Completely out classed for the 3rd straight game."

If 7-5, or 6-6 is the goal, then so be it. That just means we as fans have to change our expectations. If it's not the goal, and I don't believe it is, then it's time for an evaluation of how everything is done, from recruiting, to training, to play calling and every coach in every position group. They can't keep doing things the way they have been and expect improvement next month, or next season.

(note for context: I'm not in the camp of Frank is the greatest thing in the world, nor am I in the camp of Frank must go.)

Paul Graham
General User

Member Since: 1/18/2005
Location: The Plains, OH
Post Count: 1,424

Status: Offline

RE: It's time for a change

Posted: 11/5/2015 12:41:41 PM

I completely agree. So many head scratching choices from this staff over the years.

In the meantime though, I do kinda wish people would stop pointing out the obvious issues with the team and just start cheering for a strong finish for this good group of kids.

If we could finish with a couple wins and get Poling and Papi back for a strong showing against NIU, Frank could (if he decides to) walk away with his head held high.

bshot44
General User

Member Since: 2/12/2012
Post Count: 2,211

Status: Offline

RE: It's time for a change

Posted: 11/5/2015 1:09:10 PM

Not until this last loss to BG have the vast majority of posters here agreed that something needs to be done.

I agree we are all beating a dead horse that there should probably be a change in coaching staffs....

But up until this BG disaster there were still a vocal few that thoughts things were "just fine" and we were wrong to suggest something was wrong or something needed to change.

While it's overload to read these posts with the same tone over and over again....I will say it's good to finally see this message board pretty united in the fact that things aren't good.

For too long people tried to sugar coat things and the mere suggestion that things weren't good was met with "how dare you" reactions.

I will cheer like hell these last three games because I'd love for us to reach a bowl game.

The only positive from last night was that these kids fought all night....they were just outclassed, overmatched and outcoached. Effort was not an issue. Sadly it has been in the past...but these guys battled.

I just hope it doesn't become too much for them to keep battling....back-to-back-to-back blowouts tends to wear thin and I wouldn't be surprised to see some dissension.

Go beat Kent...get bowl eligible and then hope for the best vs. Ball & NIU.....and then hopefully on to a possible winnable bowl game

colobobcat66
General User

Member Since: 9/1/2006
Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO
Post Count: 4,476

Status: Offline

RE: It's time for a change

Posted: 11/5/2015 2:26:58 PM

bshot44 wrote:

After last night, there cannot be any "just fine" guys left, can there? The problem is figuring out how we get out of this situation. The staff supposedly did a bunch of new things this year that were supposed to address many of the recurring issues. Doesn't seem to have worked out very well. Where oh where is our Phil Knight or Boone Pickens?

.
General User

Member Since: 2/3/2005
Post Count: 2,997

Status: Offline

RE: It's time for a change

Posted: 11/5/2015 3:09:34 PM

colobobcat66 wrote:

Where oh where is our Phil Knight or Boone Pickens?

He runs a cable news network and I don't think he cares about OU football.

Last Edited: 11/5/2015 3:10:30 PM by .

colobobcat66
General User

Member Since: 9/1/2006
Location: Watching the bobcats run outside my window., CO
Post Count: 4,476

Status: Offline

RE: It's time for a change

Posted: 11/5/2015 3:20:01 PM

Brian Smith wrote:

colobobcat66 wrote:

Where oh where is our Phil Knight or Boone Pickens?

He runs a cable news network and I don't think he cares about OU football.

You missed the "our" part of my question. There must be somebody else.

Last Edited: 11/5/2015 3:22:40 PM by colobobcat66

.
General User

Member Since: 2/3/2005
Post Count: 2,997

Status: Offline

RE: It's time for a change

Posted: 11/5/2015 4:12:19 PM

colobobcat66 wrote:

Brian Smith wrote:

colobobcat66 wrote:

Where oh where is our Phil Knight or Boone Pickens?

He runs a cable news network and I don't think he cares about OU football.

You missed the "our" part of my question. There must be somebody else.

Now that I looked up compensation, the crazy thing is...Matt Lauer makes about the same as Ailes every year.

That's stunning to me.

OU_Country
General User

Member Since: 12/6/2005
Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County
Post Count: 8,353

Status: Offline

RE: It's time for a change

Posted: 11/5/2015 4:31:07 PM

That's enough that I'd be pleased if the changed the name of the Convo to the Lauer Center with an appropriate donation.

Monroe Slavin
General User

Member Since: 12/20/2004
Location: Oxnard, CA
Post Count: 9,121

Status: Offline

RE: It's time for a change

Posted: 11/5/2015 6:18:13 PM

At any program with any kind of aspirations for football success, this staff would have seen guys fired about two years ago. Get a clue; that's the real world as sad or ugly as it may be.

But here we are.

So, the smart move is to move one of the assistants to H.C. now--to test to see if one of the assistants has the stuff.

It is absolutely, 100%, completely, thoroughly, totally pointless to keep Solich on from here on in.

Unless we feel that (mostly from financial standpoint) we have to keep him on thru the end of his contract (thru next season, right?)....In which case, we're basically deciding to fold the program by dedicating to another year of really bad ball.

Or, pigs may get aeronautical and we'll find a qb and good O and D linemen and defensive secondary guys and be injury free next year. Except that we've no qb and our O-line will start a lot of new guys next year, etc, etc, etc, etc, etc

Where's the band?!
WHERE"S THE BAND?!

DesignspiritUSA.com
The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags
The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping!

BEG
General User

Member Since: 5/22/2013
Post Count: 40

Status: Offline

RE: It's time for a change

Posted: 11/5/2015 8:36:46 PM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

So, the smart move is to move one of the assistants to H.C. now--to test to see if one of the assistants has the stuff.

Promoting from within will bring more of the same.

Flat Tire
General User

Member Since: 12/24/2006
Post Count: 127

Status: Offline

RE: It's time for a change

Posted: 11/5/2015 8:40:09 PM

Ohio has had only one football coach with a winning overall record since Bill Hess retire and that is Frank. Jim Grobe finished at .500, but he was tying to bail before he left for Wake Forest. Is Frank a college hall of fame coach, no but he has won at Ohio.

RSBobcat
General User

Member Since: 8/22/2010
Location: Columbus, OH
Post Count: 4,427

Status: Offline

RE: It's time for a change

Posted: 11/5/2015 10:42:15 PM

Paul Graham wrote:

I agree. Why focus on the negative for the balance of this season.

RS Bobcat

OU_Country
General User

Member Since: 12/6/2005
Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County
Post Count: 8,353

Status: Offline

RE: It's time for a change

Posted: 11/6/2015 9:37:30 AM

RSBobcat wrote:

Paul Graham wrote:

I agree. Why focus on the negative for the balance of this season.

I agree - focus on getting the best out of this season for the next three weeks.

AFTER THAT, it's time to evaluate what they're doing. I would not agree with the idea of promoting from within. Tough as it might be, I think it's time to shuffle up the coaching staff with young blood and to bring energy and ideas. For starters, I offer up the idea of hiring someone to the offensive staff whose only role is recruiting and developing a couple new QBs in the next two years. I'm not a football coaching genius, but it would seem to make sense that new blood from the outside is needed. Also, the way I see it from my chair, it's either time to change how they're doing it, or time for fans to go back to the expectation of going to the games until the 110 halftime show is done. I'm not willing to be the one banging my head against the wall in the same way, year after year.

Showing Replies:	1 - 13 of 13 Posts
Jump to Page:	1

View Other 'Ohio Football' Topics

There are 267 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com

265 Guests
2 Registered Users:
	Radar, BODAN-TORA

There are no other users looking at this page.