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"You can't un-fist a fist pump." - Saul Phillips 1/24/15 Back to Top Bcat2 General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 4,295 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Ohio    Posted: 10/24/2015 8:23:28 PM  bobcat695 wrote: Should've started this thread 2-3 years ago. Right. When Ohio had just beaten Penn State and won bowl #2. One request, if you are not accepting of the current results and really want change, call for it based upon that. Many are feeling the need to make personal attacks on good well meaning people who have devoted years of their lives and are truly dedicated to Ohio. If you need more wins, that is enough, no need for the personal attacks. "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top HeHateMiami General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Mason, OH Post Count: 473 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Ohio    Posted: 10/24/2015 9:41:09 PM  Bcat2 wrote: bobcat695 wrote: Should've started this thread 2-3 years ago. Right. When Ohio had just beaten Penn State and won bowl #2. One request, if you are not accepting of the current results and really want change, call for it based upon that. Many are feeling the need to make personal attacks on good well meaning people who have devoted years of their lives and are truly dedicated to Ohio. If you need more wins, that is enough, no need for the personal attacks. This doesn't make sense on threads where there have been nary a personal attack--on posters or coaching staff--or maybe you're just being proactive? Back to Top bobcat695 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Parkersburg, WV Post Count: 1,345 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Ohio    Posted: 10/24/2015 9:48:46 PM  Bcat2 (or relative of Solich or Albin as I really believe), You can cut and paste the same response to every thread that is expressing disappointment. It doesn't change the truth. Ohio Football is stale, cannot recruit dynamic playmakers, and runs predictable plays all season long. Injuries are a sad trend and the team can't beat anyone in the MAC with a winning record. There was never a personal attack. "You can't un-fist a fist pump." - Saul Phillips 1/24/15 Back to Top allen General User Member Since: 1/24/2006 Post Count: 4,635 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Ohio    Posted: 10/24/2015 10:39:43 PM  Do we want to win or do we want to just suit up? Frank is a great coach who has not figured it out. Hopefully, he figures it out. Some people on this board are so scared of the truth or they love being middle of the road. Nobody is attacking anyone, people are expressing themselves. Nobody despises to lose more than I do. That's got me into trouble over the years, but it also made a man of mediocre ability into a pretty good coach. Woody Hayes Back to Top ts1227 General User Member Since: 2/28/2006 Location: Tallmadge, OH Post Count: 870 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Ohio    Posted: 10/24/2015 10:47:46 PM  bobcat695 wrote: Bcat2 (or relative of Solich or Albin as I really believe), You can cut and paste the same response to every thread that is expressing disappointment. It doesn't change the truth. Ohio Football is stale, cannot recruit dynamic playmakers, and runs predictable plays all season long. Injuries are a sad trend and the team can't beat anyone in the MAC with a winning record. There was never a personal attack. Exactly. No one is denying this staff took this team from perennial doormat to a completely different level. Name it Frank Solich field or build a statue if you want and no one is going to be upset. But, we have apparently peaked with this staff and are starting to regress the past few years. Has the game passed him by? Is it something else? It can all be debated. But, before the next coach has to start from where Frank did after the years of disaster before him, it's not crazy talk to at least consider that it's possibly time to move on to keep the trajectory moving upward. Sure, it sucks, it would be great to have Frank here forever after what he's done, but I just don't know how that happens. Back to Top NashvilleKat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Nashville, TN Post Count: 93 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Ohio    Posted: 10/24/2015 11:09:18 PM  While we can appreciate what Frank has done for the program, it does seem like now is the time to start moving in another direction. I drove to Athens from Nashville last week for the WMU game, and the second half was an embarrassment. Today's game against a bad Buffalo team was just as bad. Whether people want to admit it or not, I think age and blind loyalty is catching up. Last Edited: 10/24/2015 11:10:31 PM by NashvilleKat Back to Top Bcat2 General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 4,295 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Ohio    Posted: 10/24/2015 11:37:51 PM  bobcat695 wrote: Bcat2 (or relative of Solich or Albin as I really believe), You can cut and paste the same response to every thread that is expressing disappointment. It doesn't change the truth. Ohio Football is stale, cannot recruit dynamic playmakers, and runs predictable plays all season long. Injuries are a sad trend and the team can't beat anyone in the MAC with a winning record. There was never a personal attack. Fortunately Mr. Basham, Mr. Poling, Jovon Johnson, Papi White, Keith Heitzman, Mr Wells, Mr. Smith, Mr. Sayles and Mr Carpenter can consider themselves playmakers without your endorsement. Again, clearly the program disappointed everyone today. When I say everyone I believe the most disappointed are the players and coaches. There is no need to pile on. If you need more wins that is enough, no need to call out the player's quality or the coaches unless it really makes you feel better or smart or ..... "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top bshot44 General User Member Since: 2/12/2012 Post Count: 2,211 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Ohio    Posted: 10/25/2015 1:21:37 AM  Bcat2 wrote: bobcat695 wrote: Bcat2 (or relative of Solich or Albin as I really believe), You can cut and paste the same response to every thread that is expressing disappointment. It doesn't change the truth. Ohio Football is stale, cannot recruit dynamic playmakers, and runs predictable plays all season long. Injuries are a sad trend and the team can't beat anyone in the MAC with a winning record. There was never a personal attack. Fortunately Mr. Basham, Mr. Poling, Jovon Johnson, Papi White, Keith Heitzman, Mr Wells, Mr. Smith, Mr. Sayles and Mr Carpenter can consider themselves playmakers without your endorsement. Again, clearly the program disappointed everyone today. When I say everyone I believe the most disappointed are the players and coaches. There is no need to pile on. If you need more wins that is enough, no need to call out the player's quality or the coaches unless it really makes you feel better or smart or ..... What do you want to read on here? "Oh, gee whiz. We played so hard today. The guys really gave it their best and we just didn't win. Shucks." Whatever. It's frustrating. Fans can express their displeasure anyway they choose. Just because we question coaching, effort, etc doesn't mean we don't support Ohio Bobcat football. I know they want to win. We want them to win. When that doesn't happen, we shouldn't be expected to just shrug it off with some "oh shucks" posts. This team is hard to watch right now....and over the last four years, it's been this way too much. Let people vent however they want. If they didn't care about this program they wouldn't be on here talking about them Back to Top Hooligan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 217 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Ohio    Posted: 10/25/2015 11:39:03 AM  It's not that Ohio lost. It's how they lost. Every year theres hope of a great season that ends with these lackluster performances. You can deny it all you want but for two weeks this team has crapped down their legs. It sucks. Other teams get over the hump, not Ohio. I appreciate Frank and all he has done but he's maxed out. Time to move on. My only concern is that they would hire Albin as the HC. Back to Top Monroe Slavin General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Oxnard, CA Post Count: 9,121 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Ohio    Posted: 10/25/2015 12:21:22 PM  Bcat2 wrote: bobcat695 wrote: Bcat2 (or relative of Solich or Albin as I really believe), You can cut and paste the same response to every thread that is expressing disappointment. It doesn't change the truth. Ohio Football is stale, cannot recruit dynamic playmakers, and runs predictable plays all season long. Injuries are a sad trend and the team can't beat anyone in the MAC with a winning record. There was never a personal attack. Fortunately Mr. Basham, Mr. Poling, Jovon Johnson, Papi White, Keith Heitzman, Mr Wells, Mr. Smith, Mr. Sayles and Mr Carpenter can consider themselves playmakers without your endorsement. Again, clearly the program disappointed everyone today. When I say everyone I believe the most disappointed are the players and coaches. There is no need to pile on. If you need more wins that is enough, no need to call out the player's quality or the coaches unless it really makes you feel better or smart or ..... So, if I consider myself the POTUS, that's what I am? Or am I still some miscellaneous person who spends too much time on these threads because he loves OU too much? Performance is not to be subject to analysis? Last Edited: 10/25/2015 1:08:53 PM by Monroe Slavin Where's the band?! WHERE"S THE BAND?! DesignspiritUSA.com The Pets On The Go Collection of pet gear travel bags The Holiday Tote Bigg Bagg Collection--over-sized, reversible, extra pockets; now love carrying packages as much as you love shopping! Back to Top Sony7 General User Member Since: 6/25/2005 Location: Greenfield, WI Post Count: 299 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Ohio    Posted: 10/25/2015 12:55:18 PM  I hate everyone on here. Go Bobcats! SONY7 Back to Top PhiTau74 General User Member Since: 8/6/2010 Location: Columbia, SC Post Count: 457 Status: Offline     RE: TOS to Ohio    Posted: 10/25/2015 1:01:07 PM  Bcat2 wrote: bobcat695 wrote: Bcat2 (or relative of Solich or Albin as I really believe), You can cut and paste the same response to every thread that is expressing disappointment. It doesn't change the truth. Ohio Football is stale, cannot recruit dynamic playmakers, and runs predictable plays all season long. Injuries are a sad trend and the team can't beat anyone in the MAC with a winning record. There was never a personal attack. Fortunately Mr. Basham, Mr. Poling, Jovon Johnson, Papi White, Keith Heitzman, Mr Wells, Mr. Smith, Mr. Sayles and Mr Carpenter can consider themselves playmakers without your endorsement. Again, clearly the program disappointed everyone today. When I say everyone I believe the most disappointed are the players and coaches. There is no need to pile on. If you need more wins that is enough, no need to call out the player's quality or the coaches unless it really makes you feel better or smart or ..... Do any of them play offense? What's your excuse for that, shit happens move on. It's not personal its business as they say in the Mob. 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