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Over the past few years I've spent quite a bit of time on this board trying to convince various folks that the football program was in decline or at least wasn't moving in the right direction. Of course some were doing the same in reaction to the results on the field and others were pushing back against that analysis. Thats continued up to today. I feel like those efforts (while sorta a waste of time) were done because many folks (perhaps even Arkley and athletic dept folks included) failed to see what we were seeing. Well, its hard to argue with the results of the last few weeks and now we're in a position where many folks are now questioning what the future of the football program should look like...or even recommending that Frank step aside. With respect to all of this I submit a couple humble requests: - We should stop talking about this type of stuff. Its over now. Anyone with half a brain now realizes that the program is struggling. If they don't, then their opinion is not worth the effort of swaying. I'm officially done calling attention to stats that show things are not going well or complaining about the staff. The message has been conveyed to those that care to exist in reality. - Frank, the staff and the team have worked very hard over the years and deserve our support, particularly now that things are sorta in free-fall. - Do we really want Frank to go out with the fans trashing him and calling for his head? Surely thats not how we want the successful Solich years to end. - And finally...this team has a lot of nice players and good kids. Lets put aside our egos and the desire to be "right" and just give them some unmitigated support. So I'm calling on the BA gang to circle the wagons and support the team until the season is over. Thats what I'll be doing! Back to Top Bcat2 General User Member Since: 7/6/2010 Post Count: 4,295 Status: Offline     RE: Time to Circle the Wagons    Posted: 10/25/2015 7:32:12 AM  Paul Graham wrote: So here's the deal. Over the past few years I've spent quite a bit of time on this board trying to convince various folks that the football program was in decline or at least wasn't moving in the right direction. Of course some were doing the same in reaction to the results on the field and others were pushing back against that analysis. Thats continued up to today. I feel like those efforts (while sorta a waste of time) were done because many folks (perhaps even Arkley and athletic dept folks included) failed to see what we were seeing. Well, its hard to argue with the results of the last few weeks and now we're in a position where many folks are now questioning what the future of the football program should look like...or even recommending that Frank step aside. With respect to all of this I submit a couple humble requests: - We should stop talking about this type of stuff. Its over now. Anyone with half a brain now realizes that the program is struggling. If they don't, then their opinion is not worth the effort of swaying. I'm officially done calling attention to stats that show things are not going well or complaining about the staff. The message has been conveyed to those that care to exist in reality. - Frank, the staff and the team have worked very hard over the years and deserve our support, particularly now that things are sorta in free-fall. - Do we really want Frank to go out with the fans trashing him and calling for his head? Surely thats not how we want the successful Solich years to end. - And finally...this team has a lot of nice players and good kids. Lets put aside our egos and the desire to be "right" and just give them some unmitigated support. So I'm calling on the BA gang to circle the wagons and support the team until the season is over. Thats what I'll be doing! Ted, might this be pinned to remain at the top for a few days? All who visit could benefit from Paul's leadership right now. Bartender, I will have what Paul's having, only make mine a double. "Do not pray for easy lives. Pray to be stronger men." JFK Back to Top The Situation General User Member Since: 7/12/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 957 Status: Offline     RE: Time to Circle the Wagons    Posted: 10/25/2015 9:42:11 AM  Paul Graham wrote: With respect to all of this I submit a couple humble requests: - We should stop talking about this type of stuff. Its over now. Anyone with half a brain now realizes that the program is struggling. If they don't, then their opinion is not worth the effort of swaying. I'm officially done calling attention to stats that show things are not going well or complaining about the staff. The message has been conveyed to those that care to exist in reality. - Frank, the staff and the team have worked very hard over the years and deserve our support, particularly now that things are sorta in free-fall. - Do we really want Frank to go out with the fans trashing him and calling for his head? Surely thats not how we want the successful Solich years to end. - And finally...this team has a lot of nice players and good kids. Lets put aside our egos and the desire to be "right" and just give them some unmitigated support. So I'm calling on the BA gang to circle the wagons and support the team until the season is over. Thats what I'll be doing! You waited until something happens you can't control (the results of yesterday's game) to finally decide to put effort into something you can control (your attitude and support of the program)?! These "humble" requests could've been made at any point over the last 2.5 years, or even sooner. There were no major hurdles preventing you from making an effort to stay positive and show support. Your basis for positivity is as critically flawed as your basis for program change over the past 2.5 years. I hope you've also finally decided to leave your fantasy world where you somehow feel vindicated after yesterday's loss. Because there are some people down here on Earth who have been focusing solely on what they can control all along. Back to Top Obc2 General User Member Since: 11/8/2007 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 597 Status: Offline     RE: Time to Circle the Wagons    Posted: 10/25/2015 1:41:23 PM  a few quick thoughts... I'm always gonna support the university and the individual athletes. I will most likely always give the benefit of the doubt to the coaching staffs, unless they foster jackassery on campus. I don't mind losses at all if the team is competive. the MAC isnt a cakewalk. the occasional blowout is immaterial to me. a pattern of blowouts really pops my cork, though. The facilities on campus are light years ahead of my days there. a hearty kudos to all that helped to make this happen, it makes a fella proud to be a Bobcat. I've been to multiple Bobcat hoops March madness games... I really need to get to a football bowl game. I commit to making every effort to do so moving forward, with clause that it must be somewhat more south of Ohio. I hate the cold, Idaho is out!!! Back to Top TWT General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Alexandria, VA Post Count: 5,112 Status: Offline     RE: Time to Circle the Wagons    Posted: 10/26/2015 1:19:21 AM  The fact is Frank is under contract with the university until June 30th 2017. That is 20 months of salary the university would have to eat ($1 million) to fire Frank this Monday. The administration has to balance that with the other fact that Frank is 5-3 and with a 6th win ends up in a bowl. Ohio makes a bowl and with guys healed up its a team that would be a handful in a bowl game. While a MAC title isn't in reach this year or next the chances are strong Frank could put another bowl banner on the wall of Peden Stadium before he's done. I can see him retiring after next year and as a parting gift renovating the weight room which he says he wants to spruce up. The administration would rather milk the Solich name and his career MAC win totals than to force him out. I'd argue that position makes some sense especially with new facilities not due to come online until 2017. Most Memorable Bobcat Events Attended 2010 97-83 win over Georgetown in NCAA 1st round 2012 45-13 victory over ULM in the Independence Bowl 2015 34-3 drubbing of Miami @ Peden front of 25,086 Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,094 Status: Offline     RE: Time to Circle the Wagons    Posted: 10/26/2015 7:45:17 AM  Spot-on analysis of what's likely to happen, IMO. Back to Top Toast General User Member Since: 3/11/2015 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 178 Status: Offline     RE: Time to Circle the Wagons    Posted: 10/26/2015 8:24:50 AM  We had 6 wins last year... there was no bowl. I doubt t here will be a bowl this year. Would need 8 wins for a bowl to be a sure bet I think, Uncle Wes wrote: and with a 6th win ends up in a bowl.. Ohio University-the original OU Back to Top Pataskala General User Member Since: 7/8/2010 Location: At least six feet away from anybody else Post Count: 9,346 Status: Offline     RE: Time to Circle the Wagons    Posted: 10/26/2015 10:14:48 AM  Toast wrote: We had 6 wins last year... there was no bowl. I doubt t here will be a bowl this year. Would need 8 wins for a bowl to be a sure bet I think, Uncle Wes wrote: and with a 6th win ends up in a bowl.. Six wins could get us a bowl if Toledo lands an access bowl slot. The MAC has five bowl commitments and only six teams with a .500 record or better. My gripe right now is that the offense isn't doing anything to take the pressure off the defense. The D made it easier for most of the first six games with lots of takeaways, but is really banged up now, so we need for the offense to step up. But it's not going to happen if we keep showing the same formations, running the same kind of plays and don't do anything to keep the opposition D off-balance. We just haven't been showing anything new on offense and teams are catching on. We will get by. We will get by. We will get by. We will survive. Back to Top Showing Replies:   1 - 8  of 8 Posts Jump to Page:   1 View Other 'Ohio Football' Topics                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               WHO'S ONLINE There are 195 Active Visitors on BobcatAttack.com 192 Guests 3 Registered Users:   chauncey1, Felix, cbarber357 There are no other users looking at this page.

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