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ytownbobcat
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   Posted: 9/27/2015 7:41:05 AM 
For those of us that yearn for the level of play from 2010 to 2012 I am happy to announce that we are back.
The difference is attitude, depth of talent and some amazing playmakers.
All hail our Bobcats. We are back!
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Victory
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   Posted: 9/27/2015 11:43:34 AM 
I think that OUr guys are going to end up playing a tougher schedule that we would have guessed in August. We will be underdogs on the road against good BGSU and NIU teams. We have to travel to Akron ans Buffalo. Akron may have found a little something offensively last week with their QB. I think Ohio may be about a 3 point favorite with the outside possibility of having to play a 4th string QB and missing 3 of the most key 4 or 5 players on defense. If all that comes to pass they they would be an underdog. I think they are only about a 1 or 2 point favorite @Buffalo if the game is next week. WMU and Ball St. may be slightly better teams than Akron and Buffalo but we have them at home and I think we'd be about a 5 or 6 point favorite right now. The only game that Ohio would be favored to win by more than 1 score is the Homecoming game vs. Miami and that, I think, would be by more than 2 scores.

I think that odds are on about a 5-3 MAC season right now. If we can stay healthy in MAC for the first time since 2011 I think they can do a bit better. Obviously, pulling a win off in Bowling Green is the most key to having a chance at getting to the MACC. Toledo, to me, looks like the clear favorite.

Last Edited: 9/27/2015 12:05:37 PM by Victory
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Victory
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   Posted: 9/27/2015 12:51:04 PM 
Here is another point about importance the Akron game next week. Akron's games against the West are against CMU and EMU and they have Buffalo at Home. If they beat Ohio at home on Saturday then they might be able to lose at Bowling Green and hope that the NIU's and Toledo's of the world help them win the division.
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   Posted: 9/27/2015 1:16:17 PM 
I'm actually worried about the Akron game now. They put up a lot of points on Louisiana-Lafayette. Granted, LA-Lafayette isn't exactly a fearsome team, but the fact that Akron put a lot of points on any team in D1 football should cause some concern.

The opposing team sucks!
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L.C.
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   Posted: 9/27/2015 1:18:32 PM 
Victory wrote:
I think that OUr guys are going to end up playing a tougher schedule that we would have guessed in August. We will be underdogs on the road against good BGSU and NIU teams. We have to travel to Akron ans Buffalo. ....

You are exactly right. Ohio's MAC schedule looked bad at the start of the season, and now it looks worse. Ohio's four road games are Akron, Buffalo, BG, and NIU. The three most difficult foes at this point would seem to be Buffalo, BG, and NIU, and all of those are on the road, and Akron isn't far behind those three, based on how they played yesterday. Ohio needs to win every game at home, and then hope to steal a couple on the road.

I think your call of Ohio as a 3 point favorite may be right, but I expect betting to push it down to even, and it very may end up with Akron the favorite. Ohio's QB situation is too uncertain, with all of the top three hurt.

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Monroe Slavin
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   Posted: 9/27/2015 2:39:55 PM 
Clearly this 'kron game will be a titanic struggle. Should we somehow, some miraculous way pull it out, this will rank among the all time great football feats.

We should definitely be worried bigtime about this one.

Clown city.


Yes, we shouldn't fool around. But if we play at all to our potential we win.


Now, let's have all the posts about how unreasonable I am.

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   Posted: 9/27/2015 3:19:40 PM 
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Clearly this 'kron game will be a titanic struggle. Should we somehow, some miraculous way pull it out, this will rank among the all time great football feats.

We should definitely be worried bigtime about this one.

Clown city.


Yes, we shouldn't fool around. But if we play at all to our potential we win.


Now, let's have all the posts about how unreasonable I am.

No, no, Monroe. We already know what is going to happen. El Gato Roberto forecast it before the season, and he's never wrong.
El Gato Roberto wrote:
09/03/15 at Idaho Win (1-0)
09/12/15 vs. Marshall Win (2-0)
09/19/15 vs. Southeastern Louisiana Win (3-0)
09/26/15 at Minnesota Loss (3-1)
10/03/15 at Akron Loss (3-2) board goes into freefall & Monroe sets self on fire
10/10/15 vs. Miami Win (4-2)
10/17/15 vs. Western Michigan Win (5-2) turning point
10/24/15 at Buffalo Win (6-2)
11/04/15 at Bowling Green Win (7-2) in the driver's seat
11/10/15 vs. Kent State Win (8-2)
11/17/15 vs. Ball State Win (9-2)
11/24/15 at NIU Win (10-2)

Regular Season: 10-2

MAC Championship Ohio Wins! (party like its 1968)

Bowl Game: Win (mmmmm...Kool Ade)

Final Record: 12-2

(this is the bookend to the Cubs Miracle)

I'm going to pick up some marshmallows, graham crackers, and chocolate bars this week.

Last Edited: 9/27/2015 3:21:08 PM by L.C.

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Victory
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   Posted: 9/27/2015 3:58:52 PM 
I normally let the doomsday fire the coach people and the Sunnyside make excuses for everything people duke it out and leave it alone. But since I’ve been dragged in this......

When I say EXPERTS I don’t mean the talking heads on ESPN. They get paid to be entertaining. No, I mean the nerdy, analytical people that also know football like a football coach that get paid by the big bookies to set the odds because they are right more than anyone else and millions of dollars of bookmaker money are at stake.

1) The Bobcats were expected to finish second or maybe third in what was viewed in August as a pretty weak MAC East. Coming of a 6-6 year expectations were not great. We were only about a TD favorite playing at one of the worst teams in FBS.

2) Ohio has outperformed the odds every week and for the most part the games looked slightly better for Ohio than the final score indicated. The first three games Ohio looked like the better team pretty much the whole way. The odds maker opinion of us has had to get better each game as the year has progressed and Ohio still keeps beating the odds.

3) The MAC has pulled a few more upsets than the experts would have expected going into the season. And, In particular, the MAC East, has beaten the spread when they were underdogs and didn’t actually pull off an upset a very large percentage of the time. Expert opinion of the conference has gone up. The MAC is probably considered to be the 7th best league even though it probably would have been 9th going in. I can’t say for that for certain as far as expert opinion goes but it is the case with the computer systems that have already dropped the preseason biases.

4) Ohio was never considered to be a much better team than Akron or Buffalo. Even though Ohio has outperformed preseason expectations Akron and Buffalo have probably done the same but not quite to the same extent.

5) We have a lot of injuries to important players. Some may not play next week. We don’t know yet. Rationaly, I expect that we will be a very small favorite against Akron and if a lot of key players can’t go I expect that we will be an underdog. As far as the actual factual odds go we will see in an hour or two.

6) I think that Ohio is considered by the experts to be a better team than Akron right now but with the away games against all of the other contenders in the East, the tougher MAC West schedule, and the present injury situation I don’t think Ohio would be given better odds to win the East than Akron right now. I’m only guessing on that point.

So basically we have as far as the FACTS Monroe asks for: Expert expectations were not high to begin with. Ohio has definitely outperformed them. We have a little more than the normal expectation as far as injuries to key players.

I’m not saying I think the Akron game will be close because I’m trying to say we are awful and the sky is falling nor because I’m trying to say Akron is great so I’ll have a ready excuse for a sunshine attitude if Ohio loses. Weather you guys see the low expectations to begin with as doomsday or the fact that we have beaten those expectations as reason to think the coach is doing a wonderful job I’ll leave to others.

Last Edited: 9/27/2015 4:16:22 PM by Victory
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Monroe Slavin
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   Posted: 9/27/2015 4:49:51 PM 
Victory--I'd say that's a reasonably fair assessment.

The problem is that 10 years and no MACC and we're just middling in a quite weak MAC.

And, I think that there are reasons for the 10 years of not-great, with not one MAC...reasons that are still core to what we are...and which are likely to keep us what we keep being.




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   Posted: 9/27/2015 5:30:36 PM 
L.C. wrote:
Victory wrote:
I think that OUr guys are going to end up playing a tougher schedule that we would have guessed in August. We will be underdogs on the road against good BGSU and NIU teams. We have to travel to Akron ans Buffalo. ....

You are exactly right. Ohio's MAC schedule looked bad at the start of the season, and now it looks worse. Ohio's four road games are Akron, Buffalo, BG, and NIU. The three most difficult foes at this point would seem to be Buffalo, BG, and NIU, and all of those are on the road, and Akron isn't far behind those three, based on how they played yesterday. Ohio needs to win every game at home, and then hope to steal a couple on the road.

I think your call of Ohio as a 3 point favorite may be right, but I expect betting to push it down to even, and it very may end up with Akron the favorite. Ohio's QB situation is too uncertain, with all of the top three hurt.



We opened as a 4 point favorite which has already been bet down to 2.
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   Posted: 9/27/2015 6:25:58 PM 
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Victory--I'd say that's a reasonably fair assessment.

The problem is that 10 years and no MACC and we're just middling in a quite weak MAC.

And, I think that there are reasons for the 10 years of not-great, with not one MAC...reasons that are still core to what we are...and which are likely to keep us what we keep being.






Monroe, come on man. This Bobcat team has a real chance at a MACC...why do you refuse to have fun and just enjoy the ride?
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   Posted: 9/27/2015 11:57:29 PM 
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Victory--I'd say that's a reasonably fair assessment.

The problem is that 10 years and no MACC and we're just middling in a quite weak MAC.

And, I think that there are reasons for the 10 years of not-great, with not one MAC...reasons that are still core to what we are...and which are likely to keep us what we keep being.


The entire way you are looking at our situation is wrong. To win a MAC Championship you half to be at least a legit Top 40 team in a given year. You need to have a good football team. Its not something that any old coach can do, field a Top 40 squad at the highest level of football. Secondly having a high percentage of your defensive backs and linebackers show up on the 1st Team all MAC list with a 100 tackles each is an indicator that your defensive line is a failure. Having a punter on the first team is a sign of an inept offense. Individual standouts often mask a deficiency. Many of the prolific scorers in the NBA play on the worst teams to carry the load. The objective should be not to recruit great MAC level 1st teamers but network for guys that are 4 stars who slipped through the cracks like Roger Lewis with Ohio State or Randy Moss at Florida State. Most of your issues with the program are stemming from ignorance.

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   Posted: 9/28/2015 12:16:23 AM 
Victory wrote:

I think that odds are on about a 5-3 MAC season right now. If we can stay healthy in MAC for the first time since 2011 I think they can do a bit better. Obviously, pulling a win off in Bowling Green is the most key to having a chance at getting to the MACC. Toledo, to me, looks like the clear favorite.


I'd say Toledo, NIU, BGSU and Ohio are all about at the Top 40 level necessary to be a MACC contender. There is no real legit Top 25 team in the MAC this year. Toledo will drop 2 games in conference play. The key to winning to the MAC is getting to the championship game. Both Ohio and BGSU have the offense to take care of business in the east. The division could come down to who stays healthy going into that game.

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Monroe Slavin
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   Posted: 9/28/2015 2:06:57 AM 
Uncle Wes wrote:
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Victory--I'd say that's a reasonably fair assessment.

The problem is that 10 years and no MACC and we're just middling in a quite weak MAC.

And, I think that there are reasons for the 10 years of not-great, with not one MAC...reasons that are still core to what we are...and which are likely to keep us what we keep being.


The entire way you are looking at our situation is wrong. To win a MAC Championship you half to be at least a legit Top 40 team in a given year. You need to have a good football team. Its not something that any old coach can do, field a Top 40 squad at the highest level of football. Secondly having a high percentage of your defensive backs and linebackers show up on the 1st Team all MAC list with a 100 tackles each is an indicator that your defensive line is a failure. Having a punter on the first team is a sign of an inept offense. Individual standouts often mask a deficiency. Many of the prolific scorers in the NBA play on the worst teams to carry the load. The objective should be not to recruit great MAC level 1st teamers but network for guys that are 4 stars who slipped through the cracks like Roger Lewis with Ohio State or Randy Moss at Florida State. Most of your issues with the program are stemming from ignorance.



I have no idea (I'm serious..not being sarcastic) how that means that anyone should be happy about 10 years with no MACC.

It's as if you're saying that we just can't MACC.


And that assertion that having a player be first team All-MAC kinda only happens because of some other deficiency--huh??


How many years of the same coach with no MACC before you get restless about it? I'm serious--at some point would that bother you?





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   Posted: 9/28/2015 2:26:53 AM 
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Uncle Wes wrote:
Monroe Slavin wrote:
Victory--I'd say that's a reasonably fair assessment.

The problem is that 10 years and no MACC and we're just middling in a quite weak MAC.

And, I think that there are reasons for the 10 years of not-great, with not one MAC...reasons that are still core to what we are...and which are likely to keep us what we keep being.


The entire way you are looking at our situation is wrong. To win a MAC Championship you half to be at least a legit Top 40 team in a given year. You need to have a good football team. Its not something that any old coach can do, field a Top 40 squad at the highest level of football. Secondly having a high percentage of your defensive backs and linebackers show up on the 1st Team all MAC list with a 100 tackles each is an indicator that your defensive line is a failure. Having a punter on the first team is a sign of an inept offense. Individual standouts often mask a deficiency. Many of the prolific scorers in the NBA play on the worst teams to carry the load. The objective should be not to recruit great MAC level 1st teamers but network for guys that are 4 stars who slipped through the cracks like Roger Lewis with Ohio State or Randy Moss at Florida State. Most of your issues with the program are stemming from ignorance.



I have no idea (I'm serious..not being sarcastic) how that means that anyone should be happy about 10 years with no MACC.

It's as if you're saying that we just can't MACC.


And that assertion that having a player be first team All-MAC kinda only happens because of some other deficiency--huh??


When a team has has a great individual performer it often means they ran all the plays through him as the only go to guy in the unit. One great Offensive Lineman doesn't make a great OL unit. One great linebacker doesn't make a great defense. Think of Miami's team 10 years ago with Nande and Buffalo's from a couple of years ago with Mack. Great physical specimen linebackers that led their teams to win 8 games or so. The year they graduate Miami and Buffalo drop back to 3 wins. Ohio does not run all the plays through 2 or 3 guys because it has quality players across the entire first team so there is flexibility. In the example of a first team QB that is a little different because a really good QB is a difference maker but at most positions relying on one big playmaker is an indication you don't have a good unit. Kentucky basketball has guys scoring 8 or 9 points per game that are future NBA draft picks. The same guy plays for Auburn and he's a starter averaging 20 points per game. That is why I don't think those 1st/2nd team MAC list are useful in determining how much talent a team has.

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   Posted: 9/28/2015 2:07:56 PM 
I don't follow you at all.

If a guy plays at first team All-MAC level...with hardly any regard to his teammates..then he's first team All-MAC. That's all.

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   Posted: 9/28/2015 2:48:42 PM 
Monroe Slavin wrote:


I have no idea (I'm serious..not being sarcastic) how that means that anyone should be happy about 10 years with no MACC.


Can you name me one person on this board who is "happy" about 10 years with no MACC? I'm serious..not being sarcastic. Just one. Not someone who is not as angry, depressed, obsessed and borderline psychotic over it as you are. I'm looking for one person who you identify as "happy" about it. Just one.
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   Posted: 9/28/2015 4:36:34 PM 
L.C. bcat2 etc, etc. etc, are plenty satisfied with the status quo.

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   Posted: 9/28/2015 4:44:31 PM 
cc-cat wrote:
Monroe Slavin wrote:


I have no idea (I'm serious..not being sarcastic) how that means that anyone should be happy about 10 years with no MACC.


Can you name me one person on this board who is "happy" about 10 years with no MACC? I'm serious..not being sarcastic. Just one. Not someone who is not as angry, depressed, obsessed and borderline psychotic over it as you are. I'm looking for one person who you identify as "happy" about it. Just one.





I'll let them confirm it for themselves, but I'm willing to bet that L.C. bcat2 etc, etc. etc, aren't plenty satisfied with the status quo when you include both the present state of the program and the length of time since the last MACC.

By my interpretation, there is a spectrum between being pleased at the present state of the program and being satisfied with the status quo/the 46 year duration without a MACC. I would posit that one and the other, while somewhat related, are actually mutually exclusive.

However, it appears our CPA will not allow people to hold that position, and one is completely dependent on the other.

And allow me to also state that I believe that grown men should not take the games that young men play and their outcome so seriously.

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   Posted: 9/28/2015 5:35:55 PM 
cc-cat wrote:
Monroe Slavin wrote:


I have no idea (I'm serious..not being sarcastic) how that means that anyone should be happy about 10 years with no MACC.


Can you name me one person on this board who is "happy" about 10 years with no MACC? I'm serious..not being sarcastic. Just one. Not someone who is not as angry, depressed, obsessed and borderline psychotic over it as you are. I'm looking for one person who you identify as "happy" about it. Just one.





Considering how bad, make that BAD, Ohio football was not too long ago, I am thrilled with the state of the program right now despite no MACC. Some people may not realize how far this program has come in the last decade or so. I've seen this program suffer through seasons where it had to fight and claw to scratch out just one or two wins for the season. These bowl games we've become accustomed to playing in now, they were non-existent and not even on our radar not long ago. The MACC will come in due time. Until then, I'm happy with where Ohio football is. And if I ever start getting upset about where it currently is, I'll think back to where it was not long ago.
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   Posted: 9/28/2015 7:01:47 PM 
D.A. wrote:
cc-cat wrote:
Monroe Slavin wrote:
I have no idea (I'm serious..not being sarcastic) how that means that anyone should be happy about 10 years with no MACC.


Can you name me one person on this board who is "happy" about 10 years with no MACC? I'm serious..not being sarcastic. Just one....


I'll let them confirm it for themselves, but I'm willing to bet that L.C. bcat2 etc, etc. etc, aren't plenty satisfied with the status quo when you include both the present state of the program and the length of time since the last MACC....

Let me start by pointing out that my background is somewhat different in that unlike many/most of you I wasn't a fan for all of the bad Ohio years, though I have also been a fan of other bad teams, such as Northwestern. On the other hand, I have been a fan of teams that won championships, so I've experienced that as well.

What I have learned from both rooting for teams that fail, and ones that succeed, is that it is their achievement, not mine. Having my team win is enjoyable, but ultimately doesn't impact me personally. Having my team fail is frustrating, but it doesn't impact me personally, either. Thus, I want the team to win championships, but not for me, for themselves. I want them to enjoy the rewards that they deserve for all their hard work. If it were just about winning for my benefit, a championship doesn't make that much difference. Here's something on point:
http://tinyurl.com/pukoaxs

What is important to me? I like seeing a program that is run responsibly, meaning they don't have a lot of arrests, they aren't fighting on the field, they are getting good grades in class, they are engaging in community service, they are learning to work towards goals, and to achieve them, and ultimately, that they are learning lessons that will help them succeed in life. I like, and expect to see individual players making progress, and also the program making steady progress, playing better, and attracting better players. The bottom line is that I want the team to represent the institution well.

Have my goals been met? Mostly yes. There were some rough periods, such as all the off the field incidents in 2006, but they addressed that, and got better, and it's never again been a problem to that extent, though there were still some bad incidents. The teams generally improved, too, from 2006 to 2012, so that was great.

Late 2012 was a definite disappointment, but was completely understandable given all the injuries. 2013 was a mess, and they never achieved what they were capable of. 2014 was simply a normal rebuilding year, and that didn't bother me at all. Now, here we are in 2015, and we have a great team, one that is playing well, has good student athletes, and who is giving their all. How can I not be happy with this team?

And, what about recruiting? Where is the program heading? Has the program peaked? Are the best times over? Recruiting steadily improved from 2005 to 2009 (but still was in the bottom half of the MAC most year). Then there were changes in recruiting coordinators in 2010 and again in 2011, and things dipped for awhile, with a horrible 2010 class, and a 2011 class that was highly ranked on paper, but a disappointment on the field. The last 2-3 classes, though, seem to have been the best yet, and rank much higher, in the top half of the MAC, plus they are performing on the field. That puts me back to a comfort level that the program is once again improving.

Am I disappointed that it took 10 years before they had a class like 2015? Absolutely. While I'm an optimist, I'm not happy 100% of the time. Recruiting has been my biggest disappointment. I would have thought that with the success that Ohio was having, recruiting would have picked up faster, but honestly, it really didn't improve until the IPF was built (and no doubt the new Academic Center will further improve it). For ten years we've seen Ohio typically finishing 2d or 3rd in the MAC with recruiting classes typically ranked about 8-9th in the MAC. It's a shame it's taken this long, but we're now seeing recruiting classes typically ranked in the top half.

So, am I happy? Content? I'm happy that the program is back on track, and once again improving. I'm certain that if the program keeps improving there will be a MAC Championship, most likely in the next three years, but I also recognize that there is a luck factor built in. If there is no MAC Championship, will I consider the program a failure? Not to me, because I believe that the program still represents the University well, and prepares the kids with lessons that will serve them after football.

So, while my answer is complex, I certainly want Ohio to win a MAC Championship, yet, if they don't, that won't automatically make them failures to me.

“We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus

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   Posted: 9/28/2015 7:39:59 PM 
I guarantee a MACC in the next 2-3 years.
Book it!!!
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   Posted: 9/28/2015 9:00:43 PM 
Is KENT back too? They barely lose to Minn and give up 104 on the ground and 184 through the air while OHIO gives up 204 on the ground and 264 through the air to the Golden Gophs!

KENT is a kickoff return stop against Marshall for a win in regulation and gives up 126 yards to Marshall on the ground and 151 through the air. While OHIO gives up 157 on the ground and a miserly 106 through the air. Looks like the Kent defense is not something to laugh at and I think there will be some challenging games vs teams that folks on here pre-season thought would be walks in the park. Marshall is OHIO's big win so far yet Kent was equally matched with the Turd.

We will be finding out on Saturday how good this installment of the Bobcats are against the once lowly Zips. Our boys had better be full of fire, with the instinct to put them away. Loved the no turnovers vs Minnesota and must continue to protect the ball.
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   Posted: 9/28/2015 10:32:26 PM 
OhioBobcat wrote:
cc-cat wrote:
Monroe Slavin wrote:


I have no idea (I'm serious..not being sarcastic) how that means that anyone should be happy about 10 years with no MACC.


Can you name me one person on this board who is "happy" about 10 years with no MACC? I'm serious..not being sarcastic. Just one. Not someone who is not as angry, depressed, obsessed and borderline psychotic over it as you are. I'm looking for one person who you identify as "happy" about it. Just one.





Considering how bad, make that BAD, Ohio football was not too long ago, I am thrilled with the state of the program right now despite no MACC. Some people may not realize how far this program has come in the last decade or so. I've seen this program suffer through seasons where it had to fight and claw to scratch out just one or two wins for the season. These bowl games we've become accustomed to playing in now, they were non-existent and not even on our radar not long ago. The MACC will come in due time. Until then, I'm happy with where Ohio football is. And if I ever start getting upset about where it currently is, I'll think back to where it was not long ago.


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   Posted: 10/3/2015 10:02:57 PM 
This team has a pretty amazing attitude. Did not play well today but it never felt like we were not going to win.
I think this is a special group that is a play or two away from being 5-0 and on their way to being 5-1 after Miami.
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