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Back to Top oldkatz General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Post Count: 1,434 Status: Offline     RE: Oh Eastern    Posted: 9/29/2015 3:14:37 PM  Here's an interesting and telling quote from the article: "The Ball State game was the least-attended of EMU's three home games this season, with just 4,463 people in the stands. Each of Eastern's other two home games drew more than 6,000 people." I'm thinking there were not that many people in the stands if only fewer than 560 beers sold. If you're a true blue EMU fan, you'd be drinking a lot heavier than that. Last Edited: 9/29/2015 3:18:20 PM by oldkatz "All my inside sources tell me I have no inside sources." Salvatore "money bucks" Mafiosiano. Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,574 Status: Offline     RE: Oh Eastern    Posted: 9/29/2015 3:29:19 PM  As part of their vending agreement with EMU, Pepsi is required to buy football tickets. Maybe EMU can add a clause to that agreement that requires the Pepsi attendees to EMU football games must also purchase a beer at the game? Mandatory beer consumption can only help the fan atmosphere in Ypsilanti. I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,470 Status: Offline     RE: Oh Eastern    Posted: 9/29/2015 5:46:15 PM  Well, in the past they used to average only about 3,900 at games, if I recall, so maybe having the beer is bringing a few more to the games. Either that, or they are coming to see the concrete wall knocked down, or the gray turf.... “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Pete Chouteau General User Member Since: 11/17/2004 Location: You Can't See Me Post Count: 1,640 Status: Offline     RE: Oh Eastern    Posted: 9/29/2015 5:47:27 PM  And that, ladies and gentlemen, is how you find a rainbow in a steaming turd. Back to Top OhioStunter General User Member Since: 2/18/2005 Location: Chicago Post Count: 2,516 Status: Offline     RE: Oh Eastern    Posted: 9/29/2015 5:48:35 PM  "Steiner considered the pilot program a success. “Yes, the pilot was a success in the fact that it did everything we could have hoped for,” he said." What exactly was hoped for? Back to Top HeHateMiami General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Mason, OH Post Count: 473 Status: Offline     RE: Oh Eastern    Posted: 9/29/2015 6:03:55 PM  The Optimist wrote: As part of their vending agreement with EMU, Pepsi is required to buy football tickets. Maybe EMU can add a clause to that agreement that requires the Pepsi attendees to EMU football games must also purchase a beer at the game? I'm sure Pepsi can do much better than *drinking* a beer... Mmm, alcoholic cola. Back to Top RSBobcat General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,427 Status: Offline     RE: Oh Eastern    Posted: 9/29/2015 9:54:33 PM  $7K just to get set to sell even just ONE BEER. I hope they don't have a business school at EMU. This also likely example of inept bureaucracy ran amuk - and local beer distributor cashing in knowing that (or knowing the bureaucrat who signed the contract Very Well). RS Bobcat Back to Top Deciduous Forest Cat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Ohio Post Count: 4,419 Status: Offline     RE: Oh Eastern    Posted: 9/30/2015 10:52:20 AM  While I would love to see beer sold at Peden, let's not all pretend that it's just a license to print money. If it were honestly that great a guarantee, we'd already be doing it. We have logistics to think about. Our concessions are already undersupplied and overcrowded. Where are the beer stands going to go? If you do it, you need volume to make it worth it and you have to have infrastructure to get that volume. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,353 Status: Offline     RE: Oh Eastern    Posted: 9/30/2015 11:26:15 AM  Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: While I would love to see beer sold at Peden, let's not all pretend that it's just a license to print money. If it were honestly that great a guarantee, we'd already be doing it. We have logistics to think about. Our concessions are already undersupplied and overcrowded. Where are the beer stands going to go? If you do it, you need volume to make it worth it and you have to have infrastructure to get that volume. I agree that Peden isn't likely equipped to handle this right now as it's currently set up and constructed. What about beer sales inside The Convo? Is there better infrastructure for that in your opinion. Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,574 Status: Offline     RE: Oh Eastern    Posted: 9/30/2015 11:32:15 AM  Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: While I would love to see beer sold at Peden, let's not all pretend that it's just a license to print money. If it were honestly that great a guarantee, we'd already be doing it. We have logistics to think about. Our concessions are already undersupplied and overcrowded. Where are the beer stands going to go? If you do it, you need volume to make it worth it and you have to have infrastructure to get that volume. From what I can tell, EMU had a separate beer stand from the concessions. That is how Kent State did it when I went to the opener at Kent last year. At Kent, you walked up to a tent (separate from the concessions) and purchased a beer ticket. Then you went to a trailer (separate from the concessions) and exchanged the ticket for the beer. Entirely separate from the concessions. Our concourse is PACKED. It isn't going under there on the tower or student side Put the tent and beer stand under the corner seats. I think that would fit. IF we did do this, I think going to Jackie O's and having them run the show is the way to do it. It is even better with them because they have cans. That is 1,000,000x easier than other craft breweries where you have to deal with the logistics of kegs. Cans are extremely convenient for this. I don't think our not doing this has anything to do with logistics. I think it has everything to do Chubb Hall's view towards alcohol. EMU didn't lose money because the beer business is difficult. They lost money because they have no fan base. Last Edited: 9/30/2015 11:33:18 AM by The Optimist I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,411 Status: Online     RE: Oh Eastern    Posted: 9/30/2015 11:58:05 AM  The Optimist wrote: . . . I don't think our not doing this has anything to do with logistics. I think it has everything to do Chubb Hall's view towards alcohol. . . . I think the view of Cutler Hall is more salient here. The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. Learn more about the old 78th at: http://www.78ohio.org Back to Top shabamon General User Member Since: 11/17/2006 Location: Cincinnati Post Count: 6,581 Status: Offline     RE: Oh Eastern    Posted: 9/30/2015 12:12:37 PM  The Optimist wrote: Deciduous Forest Cat wrote: While I would love to see beer sold at Peden, let's not all pretend that it's just a license to print money. If it were honestly that great a guarantee, we'd already be doing it. We have logistics to think about. Our concessions are already undersupplied and overcrowded. Where are the beer stands going to go? If you do it, you need volume to make it worth it and you have to have infrastructure to get that volume. From what I can tell, EMU had a separate beer stand from the concessions. That is how Kent State did it when I went to the opener at Kent last year. At Kent, you walked up to a tent (separate from the concessions) and purchased a beer ticket. Then you went to a trailer (separate from the concessions) and exchanged the ticket for the beer. Entirely separate from the concessions. Our concourse is PACKED. It isn't going under there on the tower or student side Put the tent and beer stand under the corner seats. I think that would fit. IF we did do this, I think going to Jackie O's and having them run the show is the way to do it. It is even better with them because they have cans. That is 1,000,000x easier than other craft breweries where you have to deal with the logistics of kegs. Cans are extremely convenient for this. I don't think our not doing this has anything to do with logistics. I think it has everything to do Chubb Hall's view towards alcohol. EMU didn't lose money because the beer business is difficult. They lost money because they have no fan base. Beneath those corner seats are the only place I can think of too. And cans are good because they allow vendors to sell them in the stands. Back to Top Ohio69 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,039 Status: Offline     RE: Oh Eastern    Posted: 9/30/2015 1:08:52 PM  I understand why Ohio and many other mid-majors play division I sports. But, EMU? I just don't get it. Barely 5,000 fans at football games and 900 fans at basketball games. Year after year. It is just not gonna happen for them. Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?..... Back to Top The Optimist General User Member Since: 3/16/2007 Location: CLE Post Count: 5,574 Status: Offline     RE: Oh Eastern    Posted: 9/30/2015 2:05:15 PM  OhioCatFan wrote: The Optimist wrote: . . . I don't think our not doing this has anything to do with logistics. I think it has everything to do Chubb Hall's view towards alcohol. . . . I think the view of Cutler Hall is more salient here. Good catch. That is what I meant. I've seen crazier things happen. Back to Top MedinaCat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Lakewood, OH Post Count: 742 Status: Offline     RE: Oh Eastern    Posted: 9/30/2015 3:16:41 PM  The Optimist wrote: OhioCatFan wrote: The Optimist wrote: . . . I don't think our not doing this has anything to do with logistics. I think it has everything to do Chubb Hall's view towards alcohol. . . . I think the view of Cutler Hall is more salient here. Good catch. That is what I meant. Every one of my visits to Chubb Hall, as a student, and now a parent, have been to execute checks payable to our fair institution. I assume they would be all for increased increased revenue streams. Back to Top Kinggeorge4 General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Location: Guysville, OH Post Count: 1,016 Status: Offline     RE: Oh Eastern    Posted: 9/30/2015 3:50:08 PM  I remember from the article, part of the high cost was they rented all of the equipment they used. If it became a every game thing the costs would be spread over the life of the equipment. They never stated what all of the equipment was so you were left to guess. GO BOBCATS GEORGE Back to Top . General User Member Since: 2/3/2005 Post Count: 2,999 Status: Offline     RE: Oh Eastern    Posted: 9/30/2015 4:29:24 PM  That's like opening a hot dog stand in a graveyard. It also sounds like an Onion story. "A temperance movement abruptly broke out in Ypsilanti, Michigan, on Saturday..." 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