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   Posted: 9/13/2015 11:37:46 AM 
In a previous thread a poster commented on it's all about the experience so let's go with that line of thinking. Having both bands there was exciting. You could feel the excitement and tension in the atmosphere - two groups of kids who put their hearts and souls into what they do auditioning in front of 20K fans. Even though their styles are different, both bands distinguished themselves with both their performance and their sportsmanship. It was neat watching the Marshall band members react to the 110's gyrations. That 20 minute halftime was as good as it gets and I would respectfully ask the OU administration to consider inviting all visiting bands (can't do it at Homecoming but other than that).

The tv timeouts were brutal. I kept praying that after a change of possession, the man in red wouldn't walk out on the field. 3:31 minutes is just too long for a college football game.

I never saw so many smiling and welcoming faces from the ticket takers and security folks as I did yesterday. Someone must have shared Danny Meyer's book, Setting the Table with them. The crowd was very late arriving thus creating a massive jam of fans at the entry gate nearest the Convo. Going forward additional points of entry may need to be considered if the crowds remain this large.

Playing anything over our Kenner Close And Play sound system other than our PA announcer has to go. With two bands in the house, there was absolutely no need for any "music" to be interjected into the game and festivities. And that God awful cat roar, time to go too.

OU - O Yeah! That was pretty darn good too. The middle sections of students were really into the game and stayed till the end. Sure folks on the north end particularly and the sound end to some degree split early, but the hard core students were very supportive of the team.

And of course, the win in what will be forever remembered as "Penaltyfest" sets us up for a 3 and 0 start. Here's hoping for a beautiful sunny day next Saturday.
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   Posted: 9/13/2015 11:57:48 AM 
I agree that it was an excruciatingly long game. Commercial breaks are awful, of course, but it doesn't help that the game had 647 punts and possession was changing so often.

blue hair side was excruciatingly quiet and lame. I usually look forward to the Marshall game because their fans tend to shame our fans into actually making some noise. Not the case last night. Tower. side. sucked. Period. On the other hand, the students might have been their loudest ever.
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   Posted: 9/13/2015 12:03:25 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:

OU - O Yeah! That was pretty darn good too. The middle sections of students were really into the game and stayed till the end. Sure folks on the north end particularly and the sound end to some degree split early, but the hard core students were very supportive of the team.


The past few games in Athens there were people on the Marshall board that claimed that they had half the crowd. If you are there then you can see that this is clearly not the case. It has been 5-6K to 20K or so in 2011, 2013, & yesterday. But their 5K had been as loud as OUr 20K a lot of the time in 2013. This was not the case at all yesterday.
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   Posted: 9/13/2015 2:51:49 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
Even though their styles are different, both bands distinguished themselves with both their performance and their sportsmanship. It was neat watching the Marshall band members react to the 110's gyrations. That 20 minute halftime was as good as it gets and I would respectfully ask the OU administration to consider inviting all visiting bands (can't do it at Homecoming but other than that).





I'm sorry, but how could you say Marshall's performance was good? Their formations were very high school (during their final number, the formation they used was literally used by my high school the night before), not to mention they had a band pit with the xylophone and keyboard (also something my high school does). Also, if you are going to have someone sing...either get the actual artist or just don't sing. Having someone from the glee club sing is very amateur. They have a nice sound, but that's where it ends. The rest is indicative of a band director who doesn't realize that this is D1 college.

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   Posted: 9/13/2015 3:18:50 PM 
That one crazy fan wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
Even though their styles are different, both bands distinguished themselves with both their performance and their sportsmanship. It was neat watching the Marshall band members react to the 110's gyrations. That 20 minute halftime was as good as it gets and I would respectfully ask the OU administration to consider inviting all visiting bands (can't do it at Homecoming but other than that).





I'm sorry, but how could you say Marshall's performance was good? Their formations were very high school (during their final number, the formation they used was literally used by my high school the night before), not to mention they had a band pit with the xylophone and keyboard (also something my high school does). Also, if you are going to have someone sing...either get the actual artist or just don't sing. Having someone from the glee club sing is very amateur. They have a nice sound, but that's where it ends. The rest is indicative of a band director who doesn't realize that this is D1 college.


What's "high school" is a percussion section that DOESN'T have a pit.


Look, I love the 110 as much as the next guy but there is a lot to be desired about their marching style. They use a high, jarring step that negatively affects the tone of the wind instruments. Plus, because they don't twist at the waist they can't keep their instruments pointed at the stands when they move left, right or backwards so the sound is constantly being pushed in different directions which affects the volume, balance and tone of the ensemble. Its one of the reasons why they stand and blow so much. Also, their drill is based on 4 person squads for simplification and all of their forms are basically straight lines and follow the leader. Its exactly what high school band directors use when they don't have the kids to make more complex formations.

Comparing a show style band to a corp style band is like a parent trying to compare their children- no point in declaring which one is better and why, just love them both for the way they are and leave it at that.

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   Posted: 9/13/2015 4:34:11 PM 
It was a great game and the atmosphere in a very full Peden was terrific.

However...
--No coffee in the Tower or west side concession stands on a cool evening? They did turn it on in the Tower at halftime after many requests, but why the wait?
--The new traffic plan to force all post-game Orange lot traffic up through downtown is crazy, slow and downright unsafe, particularly in the dark with pedestrians streaming uptown. I love parking in the Orange lot and always looked forward to a fairly quick and efficient exit that had me on 33 in five to seven minutes even with typical post-game car and foot traffic. Definitely not the case last night! I hate to think this is the plan for the remainder of the season.

I agree with those who complimented the smiles and welcoming attitude from people staffing the event. Very professional and a job well done.
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   Posted: 9/13/2015 5:43:37 PM 
My first time seeing the Marshall Band was at the Little C's Pizza Pizza Bowl and did not enjoy their show that evening. I was not expecting much this time but was pleasantly surprised.

I enjoyed the dude singing and thought he did a fine job cutting the rug--it was different so it interested me. Then watching a few really good twirlers added to the attraction to the good sound being put out. I was happy they didn't march around sideways and backwards and stood an entertained me!

I moved to the student side for the half show and was surprised, in a close game, how many of our students hit the road without watching a bit of the third period.
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   Posted: 9/13/2015 5:56:42 PM 
More important than expanding the stadium is refining or expanding the concourse to better serve concessions. Lines are long, certain items are sold out. My only complaint.
Had a blast last night.
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   Posted: 9/13/2015 7:38:33 PM 
MonroeClassmate wrote:

I moved to the student side for the half show and was surprised, in a close game, how many of our students hit the road without watching a bit of the third period.


This surprised you? It's a sad and decades-long tradition.

I agree that the Marshall band sounded solid. Overall a very nice night, particularly given the result.
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   Posted: 9/13/2015 8:23:43 PM 
Alan Swank wrote:
In a previous thread a poster commented on it's all about the experience so let's go with that line of thinking. Having both bands there was exciting. You could feel the excitement and tension in the atmosphere - two groups of kids who put their hearts and souls into what they do auditioning in front of 20K fans. Even though their styles are different, both bands distinguished themselves with both their performance and their sportsmanship. It was neat watching the Marshall band members react to the 110's gyrations. That 20 minute halftime was as good as it gets and I would respectfully ask the OU administration to consider inviting all visiting bands (can't do it at Homecoming but other than that).

The tv timeouts were brutal. I kept praying that after a change of possession, the man in red wouldn't walk out on the field. 3:31 minutes is just too long for a college football game.

I never saw so many smiling and welcoming faces from the ticket takers and security folks as I did yesterday. Someone must have shared Danny Meyer's book, Setting the Table with them. The crowd was very late arriving thus creating a massive jam of fans at the entry gate nearest the Convo. Going forward additional points of entry may need to be considered if the crowds remain this large.

Playing anything over our Kenner Close And Play sound system other than our PA announcer has to go. With two bands in the house, there was absolutely no need for any "music" to be interjected into the game and festivities. And that God awful cat roar, time to go too.

OU - O Yeah! That was pretty darn good too. The middle sections of students were really into the game and stayed till the end. Sure folks on the north end particularly and the sound end to some degree split early, but the hard core students were very supportive of the team.

And of course, the win in what will be forever remembered as "Penaltyfest" sets us up for a 3 and 0 start. Here's hoping for a beautiful sunny day next Saturday.



I have never gotten used to the amount of downtime that a broadcast adds to the overall game time.
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   Posted: 9/14/2015 8:06:41 AM 
The biggest reason I go to so many more basketball games than football is the excruciating length and amount of downtime of the football games. My kids eyes stay peeled on the action and I get home by 10:30 in basketball...they usually forget there is a game in front of them for football and I get home at nearly 1:00 am.

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   Posted: 9/14/2015 8:57:46 AM 
It's a problem across college football these days. I live next door to Navy Stadium, so we go to most of the games - well the first half, anyway. I have toddler so we can generally only make it about 2 1/2 hours, which is what it seems like it takes to play the first half and halftime. Since the Mids switched to having CBS SportsNet air the games are brutally long and now start at 3:30 instead of 1. The AD came out and ridiculed fans last year for not staying until the fourth quarter, but when games routinely take four hours that ain't gonna happen for folks with young kids (which is a target audience here in Annapolis). This is why my son prefers MLS and NHL games over football and baseball.

AD's are in a tough spot. They want the tv contracts, exposure and most of all the money. They have no power, and all usually agree they would play in the middle of the night if it meant being on tv. It's not about the fan experience, anymore, it's about the money and exposure. Maybe that will change as more and more games (and cable in general) go the streaming route.

Last Edited: 9/14/2015 8:59:08 AM by Maryland Bobcat
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   Posted: 9/14/2015 9:44:56 AM 
perimeterpost wrote:
That one crazy fan wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
Even though their styles are different, both bands distinguished themselves with both their performance and their sportsmanship. It was neat watching the Marshall band members react to the 110's gyrations. That 20 minute halftime was as good as it gets and I would respectfully ask the OU administration to consider inviting all visiting bands (can't do it at Homecoming but other than that).





I'm sorry, but how could you say Marshall's performance was good? Their formations were very high school (during their final number, the formation they used was literally used by my high school the night before), not to mention they had a band pit with the xylophone and keyboard (also something my high school does). Also, if you are going to have someone sing...either get the actual artist or just don't sing. Having someone from the glee club sing is very amateur. They have a nice sound, but that's where it ends. The rest is indicative of a band director who doesn't realize that this is D1 college.


What's "high school" is a percussion section that DOESN'T have a pit.


Look, I love the 110 as much as the next guy but there is a lot to be desired about their marching style. They use a high, jarring step that negatively affects the tone of the wind instruments. Plus, because they don't twist at the waist they can't keep their instruments pointed at the stands when they move left, right or backwards so the sound is constantly being pushed in different directions which affects the volume, balance and tone of the ensemble. Its one of the reasons why they stand and blow so much. Also, their drill is based on 4 person squads for simplification and all of their forms are basically straight lines and follow the leader. Its exactly what high school band directors use when they don't have the kids to make more complex formations.

Comparing a show style band to a corp style band is like a parent trying to compare their children- no point in declaring which one is better and why, just love them both for the way they are and leave it at that.


The 110 has the more entertaining style, that's all there is to it. Unless you've been in the 110, you really don't have a right to bash anything they put on the field.


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   Posted: 9/14/2015 10:04:07 AM 
It has been said on here before and I will say it again. Peden would really benefit from some fresh paint and new signage on the concourses and some significant upgrades to concessions.

I have been to high schools who have more attractive looking concession stands (that also served more appetizing food). I will gladly admit that I am not familiar with how our concessions operate from a revenue goal standpoint but I would imagine that those could possibly be contracted out and companies would put on a better production. Of course the Bengals are a pro team and their concessions are pretty weak too. I do like the idea of approaching some of the local favorite restaurants about having a presence in the stadium. A Dixie Dog from O'Betty's while watching a game? Yes, please.

If it has not been done already, I think some research into how the entire Wrigley field renovation was done would be a great blue print for us to follow on how to give the stadium a facelift without compromising its charm and character.

Last Edited: 9/14/2015 10:04:31 AM by OUcats82

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   Posted: 9/14/2015 10:05:41 AM 
Bobcats1991 wrote:
perimeterpost wrote:
That one crazy fan wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
Even though their styles are different, both bands distinguished themselves with both their performance and their sportsmanship. It was neat watching the Marshall band members react to the 110's gyrations. That 20 minute halftime was as good as it gets and I would respectfully ask the OU administration to consider inviting all visiting bands (can't do it at Homecoming but other than that).





I'm sorry, but how could you say Marshall's performance was good? Their formations were very high school (during their final number, the formation they used was literally used by my high school the night before), not to mention they had a band pit with the xylophone and keyboard (also something my high school does). Also, if you are going to have someone sing...either get the actual artist or just don't sing. Having someone from the glee club sing is very amateur. They have a nice sound, but that's where it ends. The rest is indicative of a band director who doesn't realize that this is D1 college.


What's "high school" is a percussion section that DOESN'T have a pit.


Look, I love the 110 as much as the next guy but there is a lot to be desired about their marching style. They use a high, jarring step that negatively affects the tone of the wind instruments. Plus, because they don't twist at the waist they can't keep their instruments pointed at the stands when they move left, right or backwards so the sound is constantly being pushed in different directions which affects the volume, balance and tone of the ensemble. Its one of the reasons why they stand and blow so much. Also, their drill is based on 4 person squads for simplification and all of their forms are basically straight lines and follow the leader. Its exactly what high school band directors use when they don't have the kids to make more complex formations.

Comparing a show style band to a corp style band is like a parent trying to compare their children- no point in declaring which one is better and why, just love them both for the way they are and leave it at that.


The 110 has the more entertaining style, that's all there is to it. Unless you've been in the 110, you really don't have a right to bash anything they put on the field.




Actually anyone has the right to bash anything they want. We may not like it but people do have the right. That being said I pretty much love everything the 110 does.
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   Posted: 9/14/2015 10:06:20 AM 
Bobcats1991 wrote:
. . . . Unless you've been in the 110, you really don't have a right to bash anything they put on the field.


This is a very strange concept. Let's apply it to the football team. I believe we have a dozen posters on here who have played for OHIO in football. I guess they are the only ones allowed to make negative comments going forward. Huh?

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   Posted: 9/14/2015 10:27:53 AM 
Maryland Bobcat wrote:
It's a problem across college football these days. I live next door to Navy Stadium, so we go to most of the games - well the first half, anyway. I have toddler so we can generally only make it about 2 1/2 hours, which is what it seems like it takes to play the first half and halftime. Since the Mids switched to having CBS SportsNet air the games are brutally long and now start at 3:30 instead of 1. The AD came out and ridiculed fans last year for not staying until the fourth quarter, but when games routinely take four hours that ain't gonna happen for folks with young kids (which is a target audience here in Annapolis). This is why my son prefers MLS and NHL games over football and baseball.

AD's are in a tough spot. They want the tv contracts, exposure and most of all the money. They have no power, and all usually agree they would play in the middle of the night if it meant being on tv. It's not about the fan experience, anymore, it's about the money and exposure. Maybe that will change as more and more games (and cable in general) go the streaming route.



I completely agree. This isn't just an issue for folks with young kids. It's an issue for adults as well. This is something that keeps me from making the trek on weeknight games to Athens. The game isn't gonna end until nearly midnight. Conversely, I can come for a Wednesday basketball game and be in bed by 11ish.

I'm not sure there's a solution, but the length of games is an absolute problem.



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   Posted: 9/14/2015 11:35:08 AM 
I agree regarding a fresh coat of paint in the concourse. I like the "charm" of Peden but that is more the exterior of the stadium and the field, not the interior concourse area.
The concourse, restrooms and concessions are all poorly lit, cramped and overall just feel old. The "cramped" issue would probably take a renovation to fix, as would probably the restrooms and concessions, but the lighting and feel could at least be improved a little with some minor aesthetic touches. I've always felt the same about the Convo. Paint those blue bathrooms green!

I don't know how we contract out the food vendors, but the idea of going local would be HUGE for gameday atmosphere. Professional stadiums all over the country seem to be upgrading the concessions offerings. I think we are due.

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   Posted: 9/14/2015 2:42:45 PM 
Maryland Bobcat wrote:
It's a problem across college football these days. I live next door to Navy Stadium, so we go to most of the games - well the first half, anyway. I have toddler so we can generally only make it about 2 1/2 hours, which is what it seems like it takes to play the first half and halftime. Since the Mids switched to having CBS SportsNet air the games are brutally long and now start at 3:30 instead of 1. The AD came out and ridiculed fans last year for not staying until the fourth quarter, but when games routinely take four hours that ain't gonna happen for folks with young kids (which is a target audience here in Annapolis). This is why my son prefers MLS and NHL games over football and baseball.

AD's are in a tough spot. They want the tv contracts, exposure and most of all the money. They have no power, and all usually agree they would play in the middle of the night if it meant being on tv. It's not about the fan experience, anymore, it's about the money and exposure. Maybe that will change as more and more games (and cable in general) go the streaming route.


I think it's a football issue in general as the NFL is also grappling with this. It remains a hugely popular sport because of how good the TV experience is. The in-stadium experience, not so much.

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   Posted: 9/14/2015 4:20:08 PM 
Bobcats1991 wrote:
perimeterpost wrote:
That one crazy fan wrote:
Alan Swank wrote:
Even though their styles are different, both bands distinguished themselves with both their performance and their sportsmanship. It was neat watching the Marshall band members react to the 110's gyrations. That 20 minute halftime was as good as it gets and I would respectfully ask the OU administration to consider inviting all visiting bands (can't do it at Homecoming but other than that).





I'm sorry, but how could you say Marshall's performance was good? Their formations were very high school (during their final number, the formation they used was literally used by my high school the night before), not to mention they had a band pit with the xylophone and keyboard (also something my high school does). Also, if you are going to have someone sing...either get the actual artist or just don't sing. Having someone from the glee club sing is very amateur. They have a nice sound, but that's where it ends. The rest is indicative of a band director who doesn't realize that this is D1 college.


What's "high school" is a percussion section that DOESN'T have a pit.


Look, I love the 110 as much as the next guy but there is a lot to be desired about their marching style. They use a high, jarring step that negatively affects the tone of the wind instruments. Plus, because they don't twist at the waist they can't keep their instruments pointed at the stands when they move left, right or backwards so the sound is constantly being pushed in different directions which affects the volume, balance and tone of the ensemble. Its one of the reasons why they stand and blow so much. Also, their drill is based on 4 person squads for simplification and all of their forms are basically straight lines and follow the leader. Its exactly what high school band directors use when they don't have the kids to make more complex formations.

Comparing a show style band to a corp style band is like a parent trying to compare their children- no point in declaring which one is better and why, just love them both for the way they are and leave it at that.


The 110 has the more entertaining style, that's all there is to it. Unless you've been in the 110, you really don't have a right to bash anything they put on the field.




I wasn't referring to the 110...I was referring to the band from Huntington High that Marshall clearly borrowed.

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   Posted: 9/15/2015 10:15:30 AM 
Game experience was great! Being directed uptown as we left our parking lot was a little weird. Really did not want to head uptown on a Saturday evening when I could of gone the new S. Green Drive. I tried and was denied.

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   Posted: 9/15/2015 10:29:26 AM 
I wonder if there has been any thought towards making South Green Drive 1-way from Peden heading towards Stimson post-game. Two lanes heading that way for one hour after the game could really help clear traffic although I guess then it bottlenecks at Stimson.
I'm sure something like that would take a lot of manpower from OUPD and Athens PD. But heck, there is already a lot of manpower dedicated to traffic post-game.

They do this in downtown Cleveland after Browns games. It helps.

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   Posted: 9/15/2015 11:15:33 AM 
The Optimist wrote:
I wonder if there has been any thought towards making South Green Drive 1-way from Peden heading towards Stimson post-game. Two lanes heading that way for one hour after the game could really help clear traffic although I guess then it bottlenecks at Stimson.
I'm sure something like that would take a lot of manpower from OUPD and Athens PD. But heck, there is already a lot of manpower dedicated to traffic post-game.

They do this in downtown Cleveland after Browns games. It helps.



How about another roundabout at South Green Drive and Richland? Wouldn't that be fun?
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   Posted: 9/15/2015 11:27:29 AM 
roundabouts are awesome. The only problem with roundabouts are people who can't grasp the concept.
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   Posted: 9/15/2015 11:29:45 AM 
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
roundabouts are awesome. The only problem with roundabouts are people who can't grasp the concept.



Anytime I approach a roundabout, I say in my head, "Fortune favors the bold," because that is exactly how you are supposed to handle one. Don't wait for traffic to clear, because it won't. Just go, and it'll be fine.
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