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Topic: Armed Forces Bowl? Maybe. Maybe not.

Topic: Armed Forces Bowl? Maybe. Maybe not.

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Pataskala
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Armed Forces Bowl? Maybe. Maybe not.

Posted: 12/7/2014 11:09:33 AM

Jerry Palm still has us going to the AFB, but with a caveat:

"llinois could still be saved though. There is a dispute over whether the Armed Forces Bowl has a backup agreement with the MAC. If it doesn't, look for the Illini to end up there and for Ohio to be on the outside looking in."

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jerry-pal...

Edit: Christopher Wilson from Yahoo says CUSA has the backup agreement.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaaf-dr-saturday/final-201...

Last Edited: 12/7/2014 11:16:42 AM by Pataskala

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The Optimist
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RE: Armed Forces Bowl? Maybe. Maybe not.

Posted: 12/7/2014 12:16:11 PM

Classic MAC. No one knows if the tie-in exists.

I've seen crazier things happen.

Alan Swank
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RE: Armed Forces Bowl? Maybe. Maybe not.

Posted: 12/7/2014 1:05:22 PM

The Optimist wrote:

Classic MAC. No one knows if the tie-in exists.

This is a bit confusing:

http://www.armedforcesbowl.com/2013/08/big-12-added-to-be...

bobcat28
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RE: Armed Forces Bowl? Maybe. Maybe not.

Posted: 12/7/2014 1:34:06 PM

I imagine the Armed Forces Bowl Executives are doing whatever they can to get out of a bowl tie in with the MAC. If you are the Armed Forces Bowl, who would you rather have? Ohio or Oklahoma State?

The Situation
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RE: Armed Forces Bowl? Maybe. Maybe not.

Posted: 12/7/2014 1:45:58 PM

The Optimist wrote:

Classic MAC. No one knows if the tie-in exists.

What does Jeremy Guy even do if he's not communicating the precise bowl tie-in scenarios?

Didn't he recently get promoted to associate commissioner?

If Steinbrecher thinks a troll like Jeremy Guy is fit for promotion, then he too is culpable.

Victory
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RE: Armed Forces Bowl? Maybe. Maybe not.

Posted: 12/7/2014 2:03:03 PM

I have never understood why Bowls even sign backups with G5 conferences. I get the backups where bowls with the high majors ties have high major backups to be sure they get a high major 6-6 team over a 7 or 8 win mid-major. I understand the primary ties with the G5 down to a point where you know that they are bowling somewhere. But to sign a backup because you expect that there is a better chance of getting one mid-major over another that might lead to a Oklahoma State or Illinois staying home I don't understand. We don't know that is what is happening or of the AF Bowl is trying to buy its way out of the contract or what. The high-majors beat up the mids so badly this year and there were so many teams we would have guessed ending up at 5 wins pulling upsets the past three weeks that there are more high-majors eligible than anyone ever thought would happen. It wouldn't shock me if some backup contracts exist that bowls are trying to buyout.

I know that money always controls scheduling. But the rule that allows for extra practices being controlled by politics, IMO, isn't right. I think if you get eligible you should get the practices or all 128 teams should get them. I don't think that getting extra practices in for next year should be something that should be controlled by if the bowl spot that opens up happens to be 50 miles from your school so you get to play in that extra game.

Ted Thompson
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RE: Armed Forces Bowl? Maybe. Maybe not.

Posted: 12/7/2014 2:03:39 PM

The Situation wrote:

The Optimist wrote:

Classic MAC. No one knows if the tie-in exists.

Apparently he won free tickets from Joe Haden for the Browns game today. Haven't seen any tweets since.

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UpSan Bobcat
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RE: Armed Forces Bowl? Maybe. Maybe not.

Posted: 12/7/2014 2:12:15 PM

When the MAC announced in October it added a secondary agreement to the Detroit bowl, it mentioned its other secondary agreements and made no mention of the Armed Forces Bowl.

http://mac-sports.com/news/2014/10/20/FB_1020141654.aspx

Conferene USA said that it does in January:

http://www.goutsa.com/ViewArticle.dbml?ATCLID=209517761

Last Edited: 12/7/2014 2:15:00 PM by UpSan Bobcat

Victory
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RE: Armed Forces Bowl? Maybe. Maybe not.

Posted: 12/7/2014 2:25:30 PM

If I had to guess I'd bet the Bowl is trying to buyout CUSA and not the MAC and Palm just got it wrong. If I'm not mistaken it is possible to have a backup agreement with a separate for each of the two spots. At any rate the fact that the MAC has never made mention of it makes me seriously doubt an agreement exists.

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RE: Armed Forces Bowl? Maybe. Maybe not.

Posted: 12/7/2014 2:43:56 PM

Is it really a promotion if your job description doesn't change and nobody is named to the title of your previous position?

Brufus
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RE: Armed Forces Bowl? Maybe. Maybe not.

Posted: 12/7/2014 3:40:12 PM

Pete Chouteau wrote:

Is it really a promotion if your job description doesn't change and nobody is named to the title of your previous position?

A buddy of mine asked him on Twitter the day of the Ohio-Buffalo game who the referee was, as a legitimate question. Guy apparently made a sarcastic remark before my friend followed up, to which then JG said, "I do not know the answer." Don't know if JG thought my friend was trying to be a troll (this isn't the first time he's tweeted to Jeremy, and the previous posts have also been legitimate comments), but it certainly says something about a conference if an assistant commissioner chooses to be a smarta**

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RE: Armed Forces Bowl? Maybe. Maybe not.

Posted: 12/7/2014 4:33:04 PM

Ted Thompson wrote:

The Situation wrote:

The Optimist wrote:

Classic MAC. No one knows if the tie-in exists.

Apparently he won free tickets from Joe Haden for the Browns game today. Haven't seen any tweets since.

Maybe if Joe hadn't given Jeremy the tickets he would've guarded Hilton better on what turned out to be the game-winning TD. I'm not a Browns fan, but you never know...

Pataskala
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RE: Armed Forces Bowl? Maybe. Maybe not.

Posted: 12/7/2014 5:31:40 PM

bobcat28 wrote:

I imagine the Armed Forces Bowl Executives are doing whatever they can to get out of a bowl tie in with the MAC. If you are the Armed Forces Bowl, who would you rather have? Ohio or Oklahoma State?

They apparently wound up with Pitt to play Houston.

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