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OhioBobcat
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We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/11/2014 9:09:14 PM

I have watched NIU twice earlier this season and I'm still very unimpressed with NIU right now against Toledo. There's nothing special about this team whatsoever. They're playing at home in a huge game against Toledo who started a third string QB and the Huskies look very, very average. I feel very confident in a win next week.

Last Edited: 11/11/2014 9:10:45 PM by OhioBobcat

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/11/2014 9:24:40 PM

Tough situation for Toledo not to be so far down on the QB depth chart but the rest of the team is pretty good. NIU clearly not as good as in past years, and if you look at who it has defeated, it's no one good - no one better than 3-6 - but there is something to be said for beating all the teams they should beat.

Also of interest, Buffalo with a big early lead on Akron.

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/11/2014 10:27:53 PM

Buffalo can be bowl eligible by winning out (Akron, Kent, @UMass), so they have some extra incentive with their backs against the wall.

NIU's defense is looking pretty average tonight.

Tonight in Dekalb might feel balmy compared to next week in Athens. Looks like it may be below freezing at kickoff.

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/11/2014 10:36:21 PM

I think we will have a hard time stopping Stigley. NIU shows a lot of offensive packages. Monroe would love an OC like this.

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/11/2014 11:06:35 PM

Just saw the weirdest commercial during the game- an ad promoting dating Asian women-WTF?!?

Anyway, I'm impressed with NIU. They're beating Toledo, who's putting up a real good fight with a 4th string QB who's doing very well all things considered. NIU has to be considered the favorite when they play us next week, considering they'll be playing to win the MAC West.

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/11/2014 11:41:18 PM

Pataskala wrote:

Buffalo can be bowl eligible by winning out (Akron, Kent, @UMass), so they have some extra incentive with their backs against the wall.

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With two wins over FCS schools Buffalo would need 7 wins to be bowl eligible...

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/12/2014 12:10:33 AM

Akron just lost any edge they could possibly have in the bowl discussion tonight. Ohio defeated Buffalo and Akron so either of those schools finishing 6-6 is inconsequential to our bowl chances.

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/12/2014 12:13:01 AM

OhioBobcat wrote:

The decisions to go for it on 4th down with the ball on the 25 and a 10 point lead in 4th quarter made no sense. Same could be said of NIU punting the ball with 8 seconds to go up 3 points. Toledo went of fourth down on their own 25 down only 10 points and didn't get it. Stupid decision making in that one.

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/12/2014 1:34:45 AM

I only saw the 4th qtr tonight: We can beat NIU.

From seeing all of our games and bits and pieces of other games this year; A down year for the MAC. I haven't seen a single decently team such as we've seen in prior years with NIU, CMU, Ohio. CMU comes closest this year.

Haven't seen a single above-average qb in MAC this year.

Bonus question for Casper71: How come Toledo's 4th string qb would probably start for us?

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/12/2014 7:26:38 AM

I love how everyone is saying they are unimpressed with NIU or NIU is having a down year or NIU is average.

They are 8-2 with a win over Northwestern. If that's a down year, sign me up for Ohio having those every once in a while. Sign me up for Ohio being "average" or "unimpressive" at 8-2 with a win over a Power 5 school.

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/12/2014 8:38:46 AM

Northwestern was a solid win for NIU. Northwestern has just two FBS wins, but both were strong wins (Penn State, @ Wisconsin). All of Northwestern's six (6) losses were to teams at or above 0.500. And four (4) of those losses were by one possession.

Unfortunately NIU can't say much other than that. Going into yesterday's game NIU was 0-1 against teams with winning records. Both of NIU's losses were by multiple possessions (including a 38 point loss to Arkansas). NIU's win breakdown:

- 1 FCS win
- 1 win against a team 7 games under 0.500 (U5H)
- 2 wins against a team 6 games U5H
- 1 win against a team 5 U5H
- 2 wins against a team 3 U5H (Northwestern is one of these teams)

After last night NIU is now 1-1 against teams with winning records. And 1-0 against teams with winning records that were forced to play their 4th string QB* for the entire second half.

*That's just a poke at NIU. In reality Toledo's 4th string QB looked great; quite possibly NIU did not have the game plan in place to handle his running game.

For comparison OHIO's breakdown going into this week:

- 0-4 against teams with winning records
- 1 FCS win
- 1 win against a team 7 games U5H
- 1 win against a team 6 games U5H
- 1 win against a team 3 games U5H
- 1 win against a team 1 game U5H

Could OHIO have picked up a couple more wins if they scheduled (hindsight) a team 6 games U5H and 3 games U5H instead of teams with winning records?

All of OHIO's five (5) losses have come to a team at or above 0.500 (at this point in the season).

If there's one eight (8) win team in the country benefiting from smoke and mirrors, it may just be NIU. Even after last night, we just don't know.

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/12/2014 10:07:05 AM

OUbobcat9092 wrote:

Pataskala wrote:

Buffalo can be bowl eligible by winning out (Akron, Kent, @UMass), so they have some extra incentive with their backs against the wall.

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With two wins over FCS schools Buffalo would need 7 wins to be bowl eligible...

Is Buffalo still somehow mathematically alive for the MAC East? If so, they could win the MACC to get to 7 wins....but I really don't see how that's possible since BG would hold the head-to-head tiebreaker over Ohio, Buffalo, and Akron.

Also, it looks like the NIU game is set for ESPNU, with Fiami on The Deuce.

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/12/2014 11:03:40 AM

espn.com shows NIU-Ohio and UMass-Akron, both to be played next Tuesday, as appearing on ESPNU. ESPN and ESPN2 will be showing college basketball (State Farm Classic and Marquette-OSU). It looks like they will choose which football game to broadcast on the U, and it must be ours.

Last Edited: 11/12/2014 11:04:30 AM by shabamon

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/12/2014 11:23:19 AM

NIU didn't pick their schedule, they just play the MAC schedule that is assigned. Also played a Big 10 and SEC team. I would kiss our OC's ass if we were 8-2 with their schedule. One of their losses was to Arkansas and please don't compare any MAC team to the SEC. Arkansas is in the lower half of the SEC and won 52-14. The MAC is bad this year but NIU is one of the better teams and based on record alone the best team. So throw out the SEC game and it's a one loss team, pretty fricken good and yes please sign Ohio up for that kind of record.

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/12/2014 11:23:32 AM

OUbobcat9092 wrote:

Pataskala wrote:

Buffalo can be bowl eligible by winning out (Akron, Kent, @UMass), so they have some extra incentive with their backs against the wall.

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With two wins over FCS schools Buffalo would need 7 wins to be bowl eligible...

That would mean with 6 losses they should be ineligible, but I haven't seen anybody rule them out. I think with 6 wins they go to the back of the line along with Georgia Southern.

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/12/2014 11:23:39 AM

shabamon wrote:

It is an ESPNU/ESPN3 game.

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/12/2014 11:38:09 AM

The thought that at 8-2 NIU is not a good football team is laughable.

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/12/2014 11:41:40 AM

Uncle Wes wrote:

Akron just lost any edge they could possibly have in the bowl discussion tonight. Ohio defeated Buffalo and Akron so either of those schools finishing 6-6 is inconsequential to our bowl chances.

Unfortunately this means nothing. As you know we went to a bowl over Toledo last year even though Toledo was more deserving because we somehow convinced the bowl committee we were a better selection... Maybe Akron or Buffalo do the same to us. The bowl committee doesn't give two s*** who beat whom. They want tickets, ratings and filled hotels.

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/12/2014 11:46:11 AM

PhiTau74 wrote:

I would kiss our OC's ass if we were 8-2 with their schedule.

I get that NIU didn't (in the sense that you mean it) pick their schedule this year.

Since you mention what you would hypothetically be doing if OHIO had NIU's schedule...

Replace UK with UNLV... OHIO win.
Replace WMU with EMU... OHIO win.

That would quite reasonably make OHIO 7-3 right now. I'm not going to say OHIO would beat Northwestern, because who knows how that one would shake out. Northwestern turned the ball over 3 times via fumble in that game. NIU was +2 in the turnover margin. Yet they only scrapped by with an 8 point victory.

You appear pretty confident that NIU is a better team than OHIO. Care to agree to any arrangements for the not hypothetical match up taking place on Tuesday PhiTau?

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/12/2014 12:05:03 PM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

I only saw the 4th qtr tonight: We can beat NIU.

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I agree, and I think we will. Had Ohio played NIU early in the season, it wouldn't have happened, but now, it might. The only catch is that so far this year the East is 0-10 against West teams not bearing initials that spell the name of flightless Australian birds, and in fact, of those 10, only one was by less than 6 points (NIU over Kent).

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/12/2014 1:25:38 PM

Pataskala wrote:

OUbobcat9092 wrote:

Pataskala wrote:

Buffalo can be bowl eligible by winning out (Akron, Kent, @UMass), so they have some extra incentive with their backs against the wall.

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With two wins over FCS schools Buffalo would need 7 wins to be bowl eligible...

That would mean with 6 losses they should be ineligible, but I haven't seen anybody rule them out. I think with 6 wins they go to the back of the line along with Georgia Southern.

ESPN is usually slow flagging teams as bowl-ineligible when they've got 2 FCS wins on their record. If they are still alive for the MACC, as C Money brought up, they could still get to 6 qualifying wins* and qualify for a bowl game. Otherwise I think you're right: they can only go via waiver a la Georgia Southern.

*The actual rule basically says that you have to win at least 50% of your games, and no more than 1 win against an FCS team counts. So if a team played no or only 1 FCS team finished the season at 6-7 (playing their 13th game either as a result of a conference championship game OR a game in Hawaii) they would be ineligible, even though they had 6 wins. The NCAA has given out waivers to 6-7 teams who won their conference-division in the recent past.

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/12/2014 1:46:45 PM

mf279801 wrote:

The NCAA has given out waivers to 6-7 teams who won their conference-division in the recent past.

But not to 2007 Fiami! I still remember chuckling after realizing that even though Fiami won the East that year, we would finish bowl eligible and they wouldn't.

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/12/2014 1:51:20 PM

Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:

Uncle Wes wrote:

Akron just lost any edge they could possibly have in the bowl discussion tonight. Ohio defeated Buffalo and Akron so either of those schools finishing 6-6 is inconsequential to our bowl chances.

Yeah but we have better attendance and will sell more tickets so if we win both the marketing factor and the on the field factor we're going to get in for sure. Before it was 50/50 now as long as we get to 6 we're guaranteed to get in.

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/12/2014 1:53:28 PM

Gotta believe NIU is gonna run run run at us. The only good news is we can move guys in and out more than Toledo could. If we only used 4 DL the whole game I would really be worried. As it is, I think if we keep them in the 150 yard range rushing we have a chance. If they go off on us rushing, our O won't see the ball for 25 mins time of possession. We probably need to force a turnover or two too.

And, in answer to Monroe, I am not sure why I would like him...I thought they said he was from Ohio not FL, CA or TX. Maybe he was a legit 3-star guy? He certainly played well for the #4 QB!

Last Edited: 11/12/2014 1:57:15 PM by Casper71

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RE: We're gonna beat NIU

Posted: 11/12/2014 3:04:42 PM

C Money wrote:

mf279801 wrote:

The NCAA has given out waivers to 6-7 teams who won their conference-division in the recent past.

But not to 2007 Fiami! I still remember chuckling after realizing that even though Fiami won the East that year, we would finish bowl eligible and they wouldn't.

Yeah, I took a lot of pleasure at their predicament too

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