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davepi2
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  Message Not Read  coin toss suggestion
   Posted: 10/12/2014 4:00:08 PM 
A suggestion the next time we win the coin toss. Let's stop with this stupid deferring to the second half? No quicker way for us to go down 7-0 then doing this.
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OhioCatFan
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  Message Not Read  RE: coin toss suggestion
   Posted: 10/12/2014 4:10:28 PM 
davepi2 wrote:
A suggestion the next time we win the coin toss. Let's stop with this stupid deferring to the second half? No quicker way for us to go down 7-0 then doing this.


I had the same thought during the coin toss yesterday. I said to the guy next to me, "Do you think we'll chose to receive if we win the toss, since we've done so poorly on defense at the beginning of games recently." He said, "No." And, he was right. I think, though, that had Frank been listening to me, the initial tone of the game might have been more in OHIO's favor. Now, if Frank would only listen to my suggestions on game psychology and Monroe's deft suggestions about backfield ailment and play calling, OHIO would be 7-0 right now and heading to the first Access Bowl! ;-)


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davepi2
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  Message Not Read  RE: coin toss suggestion
   Posted: 10/12/2014 4:36:34 PM 
OhioCatFan wrote:
davepi2 wrote:
A suggestion the next time we win the coin toss. Let's stop with this stupid deferring to the second half? No quicker way for us to go down 7-0 then doing this.


I had the same thought during the coin toss yesterday. I said to the guy next to me, "Do you think we'll chose to receive if we win the toss, since we've done so poorly on defense at the beginning of games recently." He said, "No." And, he was right. I think, though, that had Frank been listening to me, the initial tone of the game might have been more in OHIO's favor. Now, if Frank would only listen to my suggestions on game psychology and Monroe's deft suggestions about backfield ailment and play calling, OHIO would be 7-0 right now and heading to the first Access Bowl! ;-)
I thought it was my suggestions he should be listening too.
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Pataskala
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  Message Not Read  RE: coin toss suggestion
   Posted: 10/12/2014 6:15:39 PM 
I questioned it too, based on BG's offensive prowess and defensive dysfunctionality. Would've liked to have seen us try to get on the board first for a change. Of course, since we lost a fumble on our opening play, it wouldn't have mattered much.


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BillyTheCat
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  Message Not Read  RE: coin toss suggestion
   Posted: 10/12/2014 7:15:20 PM 
Can anyone explain to me why you would ever want to defer and not take the ball?
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OhioCatFan
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  Message Not Read  RE: coin toss suggestion
   Posted: 10/12/2014 9:04:41 PM 
BillyTheCat wrote:
Can anyone explain to me why you would ever want to defer and not take the ball?


'cause if you're successful in stopping the other team on that first drive you can get the ball first in the second half. In general I support this approach, and it's worked well for OHIO in previous years. This year, however, with our inability to play defense for the first five minutes of each game, I would think a change in approach might be in order.


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Deciduous Forest Cat
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  Message Not Read  RE: coin toss suggestion
   Posted: 10/12/2014 9:31:50 PM 
I support getting rid of the coin toss altogether. A pointless exercise. I think the home team should always kick off to open the game and receive to start Q3.
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Bobcatbob
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  Message Not Read  RE: coin toss suggestion
   Posted: 10/14/2014 10:43:45 AM 
I don't really believe the possession part of the process makes any difference until OT, when it's huge.

I'm always interested in the field position part of it myself. Do you take the wind now or later? Want to put the opponent in the sun field?

I think the NCAA should adopt "losers" or "suckers walk" after each score anyway. Then the humiliation factor could be brought into play, too.
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  Message Not Read  RE: coin toss suggestion
   Posted: 10/14/2014 11:46:03 AM 
Bobcatbob wrote:
I don't really believe the possession part of the process makes any difference until OT, when it's huge.

I'm always interested in the field position part of it myself. Do you take the wind now or later? Want to put the opponent in the sun field?

I think the NCAA should adopt "losers" or "suckers walk" after each score anyway. Then the humiliation factor could be brought into play, too.


http://youtu.be/NriOZ6ofj_Q?t=4s

How about make-it/take-it rules? If you score, the other team has to kick it back to you.

I heard a story once about Red Grange (I think vs. Michigan) scoring 4 touchdowns before the other team even touched the ball. Once upon a time, the team scored upon got the option to kick or receive. Because the game was more defense oriented, it wasn't unusual to kick back to the scoring team to try to flip field position. So, the other team just kept kicking off after he scored, and he kept scoring.
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Pataskala
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  Message Not Read  RE: coin toss suggestion
   Posted: 10/17/2014 10:25:08 PM 
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
I support getting rid of the coin toss altogether. A pointless exercise. I think the home team should always kick off to open the game and receive to start Q3.


Or at least give the visiting team the option to receive or defer.


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