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I found his comments very insightful. There were rumors flying around leading up to the bowl game that (win or lose) it would be Frank's last game. I wonder now how far off those rumors were... Last Edited: 10/9/2014 9:28:30 AM by A-townBound Bleed Green and GO OHIO!! Back to Top ytownbobcat General User Member Since: 8/7/2006 Post Count: 1,253 Status: Offline     RE: Frank's comments on last year    Posted: 10/9/2014 9:38:33 AM  It is perplexing that no one seems to know what happened last year. Even going back to week 7 of 2012 season. It has been a decline that I would have thought was impossible. The program was built the right way with integrity and a strong foundation. Good people with great values are associated with our football program. I hope we can start to get our mojo back, starting this week. Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,430 Status: Offline     RE: Frank's comments on last year    Posted: 10/9/2014 11:23:56 AM  That's a pretty powerful little segment there. He said it was a (Paraphrasing) "Period of time that was as difficult for me than any time I've been associated with in football. Still a little hard for me to explain it all. Several factors involved." The way it sounds. The way he kind of stumbles through it. Just the tone of his voice. It's a very confusing thing and you can tell even he was affected by it. We may never know exactly what happened in that locker room, but man, that explains a lot right there. Back to Top Ohio69 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 3,061 Status: Offline     RE: Frank's comments on last year    Posted: 10/9/2014 12:31:54 PM  I wonder if last year was Solich's first real introduction to this current generation of athlete. (And their helicopter, know it all parents.) It can be a complete nightmare and ruin coaching careers. (Already has here at OU.) Can somebody hit a pull up jumper for me?..... Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,493 Status: Offline     RE: Frank's comments on last year    Posted: 10/9/2014 1:22:09 PM  A-townBound wrote: I found his comments very insightful. There were rumors flying around leading up to the bowl game that (win or lose) it would be Frank's last game. I wonder now how far off those rumors were... I have no doubt Frank would quit if he thought he wasn't able to get things done. Watching that clip, I feel like, whatever the reason was, and whatever the dynamics of last year's team were, he felt that way last year, so maybe your sources were right, and he indeed was considering retiring at that point. I also feel like, since he's back, that's an indication that he feels he can get it done, and that this group of players will erase those memories. I don't think it's all about winning and losing, either. I think it's about effort, and about leaving it all on the field. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top GoCats105 General User Member Since: 1/31/2006 Location: Seattle, WA Post Count: 7,430 Status: Offline     RE: Frank's comments on last year    Posted: 10/9/2014 2:08:55 PM  L.C. wrote: A-townBound wrote: I found his comments very insightful. There were rumors flying around leading up to the bowl game that (win or lose) it would be Frank's last game. I wonder now how far off those rumors were... I have no doubt Frank would quit if he thought he wasn't able to get things done. Watching that clip, I feel like, whatever the reason was, and whatever the dynamics of last year's team were, he felt that way last year, so maybe your sources were right, and he indeed was considering retiring at that point. I also feel like, since he's back, that's an indication that he feels he can get it done, and that this group of players will erase those memories. I don't think it's all about winning and losing, either. I think it's about effort, and about leaving it all on the field. Given that, do you think there were some things NOT left on the field last year? Back to Top A-townBound General User Member Since: 3/31/2012 Location: Georgetown, KY Post Count: 669 Status: Offline     RE: Frank's comments on last year    Posted: 10/9/2014 2:15:08 PM  L.C. wrote: A-townBound wrote: I found his comments very insightful. There were rumors flying around leading up to the bowl game that (win or lose) it would be Frank's last game. I wonder now how far off those rumors were... I have no doubt Frank would quit if he thought he wasn't able to get things done. Watching that clip, I feel like, whatever the reason was, and whatever the dynamics of last year's team were, he felt that way last year, so maybe your sources were right, and he indeed was considering retiring at that point. I also feel like, since he's back, that's an indication that he feels he can get it done, and that this group of players will erase those memories. I don't think it's all about winning and losing, either. I think it's about effort, and about leaving it all on the field. It was mentioned during the bowl game broadcast that there were such rumors, but they went on to say that Frank denied that was the case. Last Edited: 10/9/2014 2:15:42 PM by A-townBound Bleed Green and GO OHIO!! Back to Top OUcats82 General User Member Since: 1/9/2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 1,879 Status: Offline     RE: Frank's comments on last year    Posted: 10/9/2014 2:42:17 PM  The tailspin at the end of 2012 I think was due to a lot of injuries, with some mental fatigue rounding things out. I remember the debacle at Ball State being the worst of it all. Last year's loss to Buffalo took whatever was left in the tank and poured it all out. It will go down in my book as one of the more bizarre and frustrating seasons in school history. I have a hard time believing that every player gave everything he had in every game. I know several did, but there are some others who I do not think did. The effort against Kent State was the saddest sack of you know what I had seen an OU team put out in a long time. That was an evenly matched opponent who the team allowed to just emasculate them. A loss would have been a little easier to swallow if I felt they played hard. It can be easy to want to wonder and try and guess what happened but we will probably never know for sure and I try my best to not dwell on it. I will say it was not the way I envisioned Tyler, Beau etc. to go out after the MACC appearance, Potato Bowl in etc. early in their careers. Ohio-The State University Back to Top L.C. General User Member Since: 8/31/2005 Location: United States Post Count: 10,493 Status: Offline     RE: Frank's comments on last year    Posted: 10/9/2014 3:13:27 PM  As hard as some things may be to watch from the outside, it's easy to forget that they are no doubt even harder on the players and coaches. That's why I think it's better to treat that time period, not as an indication of where the program is, but as a setback, and to judge the program on where they are today, and where they are heading. I have liked the effort of the 2014 Bobcats all season long, and I expect them to surprise some people before the year is up. “We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.” ― Epictetus Back to Top Kevin Finnegan General User Member Since: 2/4/2005 Location: Rockton, IL Post Count: 1,162 Status: Offline     RE: Frank's comments on last year    Posted: 10/9/2014 3:27:24 PM  Here's the thing that bothers me about this: I imagine the issues were primarily player-based. Did any players suffer punishment for the difficulties? Was anybody benched? That frustrates me if a coach talks about how difficult times were, likely referring to players, and doesn't really understand how much blame may fall on him. Back to Top ou79 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 660 Status: Offline     RE: Frank's comments on last year    Posted: 10/9/2014 3:35:05 PM  I hope you are right L.C., I do not wish ill will upon anyone and especially upon Coach Solich. As a matter of fact, I would love nothing more than for this program to come together, turn it around, and win the MACC. I would love for Coach to go out having won that elusive MAC championship. Although I get frustrated, I am deeply appreciative of what he has done for OUr beloved institution. GO BOBCATS! Back to Top OhioCatFan General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 14,743 Status: Offline     RE: Frank's comments on last year    Posted: 10/10/2014 12:30:33 AM  I watched the whole press conference, and I came away with a positive feeling about where the program is heading. Frank's emphasis throughout was how this team is learning to get better and learning from their experiences and their mistakes. This really fits with the impression I've always had of Frank that he is happiest when he can play the role of teacher-coach and not just disciplinarian-coach or manager-in-chief-coach. I think those latter two roles were needed at the end of last year, and that he may now be second-guessing how well he filed them. I thought the key quote in that section on last year was when he talked about how groups of players came to him at the end of the season and were upset and wanted changes. I got the impression that he was pleased that this was coming from the team, rather than something that he had to enforce as an edict. Taking this together with what I already knew about some of the interactions among certain players last year and I concluded that Ohio had a *very* disruptive locker room last year. And, while TT's attitude may have been part of the problem, it was not the one that I heard about that was so cancerous. Listening to Frank talk on this video I can read between the lines and feel how much his heart was aching about his inability to deal with these locker room tensions. That being said, I think very few college head coaches could have dealt with those situations any better than Frank did. Ending on a positive note. Things are obviously much better in the locker room this year. And, I believe, that will show up on the field as the season progresses. Go OHIO! The only BLSS Certified Hypocrite on BA "It is better to be an optimist and be proven a fool than to be a pessimist and be proven right." Note: My avatar is the national colors of the 78th Ohio Veteran Volunteer Infantry, which are now preserved in a climate controlled vault at the Ohio History Connection. 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