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Author Message Antonio Pierce General User Member Since: 10/13/2012 Post Count: 243 Status: Offline     No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/17/2014 8:13:40 PM  Our office received an email today stating that we would not be permitted to bring alcohol into our tent at our "corporate" event. This was allowed in years past with the proper permitting. Really? I mean REALLY? Don't let one day define the rest of your life. Back to Top Deciduous Forest Cat General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Ohio Post Count: 4,466 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/17/2014 8:24:16 PM  May I ask WTF? I'm bringing my kids so it's not like it's going to be a drinking marathon, but I wouldn't mind having a couple. Are the fun police out in force? Back to Top RSBobcat General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,437 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/17/2014 8:31:46 PM  Antonio Pierce wrote: Our office received an email today stating that we would not be permitted to bring alcohol into our tent at our "corporate" event. This was allowed in years past with the proper permitting. Really? I mean REALLY? What was "the proper permitting" you refer too? RS Bobcat Back to Top Antonio Pierce General User Member Since: 10/13/2012 Post Count: 243 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/17/2014 8:45:15 PM  Not at the office currently, but I believe it is a state permit filed 30 days prior to the event. Ohio University previously handled the paperwork. Don't let one day define the rest of your life. Back to Top RSBobcat General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,437 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/17/2014 8:58:14 PM  Antonio Pierce wrote: Not at the office currently, but I believe it is a state permit filed 30 days prior to the event. Ohio University previously handled the paperwork. Likely then has to do with new licensing the university has for them to sell alcohol - and therefore now they are potentially in violation of that permit if they allow anyone on the premises to consume without purchase from the permit holder. they most likely cannot get both types of permits for the same "address/location". The email or any letters they are sending are covering their liability and legal butts. Will be interesting to see how strictly they enforce this. Thank your legislators and state government............ Last Edited: 9/17/2014 9:04:39 PM by RSBobcat RS Bobcat Back to Top OUBobcat13 General User Member Since: 12/7/2005 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 285 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/17/2014 9:07:37 PM  Antonio Pierce wrote: Our office received an email today stating that we would not be permitted to bring alcohol into our tent at our "corporate" event. This was allowed in years past with the proper permitting. Really? I mean REALLY? Likely has something to do with the proximity of the park to the new liquor license in the tower. When the casino went in next to riverbend in Cincy, the casino has been extremely vigilant on not letting people drink in the parking lot due to their liquor license. Back to Top OhioStunter General User Member Since: 2/18/2005 Location: Chicago Post Count: 2,516 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/17/2014 9:41:26 PM  RSBobcat wrote: Antonio Pierce wrote: Not at the office currently, but I believe it is a state permit filed 30 days prior to the event. Ohio University previously handled the paperwork. Likely then has to do with new licensing the university has for them to sell alcohol - and therefore now they are potentially in violation of that permit if they allow anyone on the premises to consume without purchase from the permit holder. they most likely cannot get both types of permits for the same "address/location". The email or any letters they are sending are covering their liability and legal butts. Will be interesting to see how strictly they enforce this. Thank your legislators and state government............ I do wonder what they could do to enforce it. A ticket? That's probably the cost of a permit. And would the university want a PR issue on their hands by ticketing donors during the first home game? Back to Top oldkatz General User Member Since: 12/22/2004 Post Count: 1,439 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/17/2014 10:48:28 PM  OhioStunter wrote: RSBobcat wrote: Antonio Pierce wrote: Not at the office currently, but I believe it is a state permit filed 30 days prior to the event. Ohio University previously handled the paperwork. Likely then has to do with new licensing the university has for them to sell alcohol - and therefore now they are potentially in violation of that permit if they allow anyone on the premises to consume without purchase from the permit holder. they most likely cannot get both types of permits for the same "address/location". The email or any letters they are sending are covering their liability and legal butts. Will be interesting to see how strictly they enforce this. Thank your legislators and state government............ I do wonder what they could do to enforce it. A ticket? That's probably the cost of a permit. And would the university want a PR issue on their hands by ticketing donors during the first home game? People were ticketed last year at Homecoming. "All my inside sources tell me I have no inside sources." Salvatore "money bucks" Mafiosiano. Back to Top RSBobcat General User Member Since: 8/22/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 4,437 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/17/2014 11:04:17 PM  OhioStunter wrote: RSBobcat wrote: Antonio Pierce wrote: Not at the office currently, but I believe it is a state permit filed 30 days prior to the event. Ohio University previously handled the paperwork. Likely then has to do with new licensing the university has for them to sell alcohol - and therefore now they are potentially in violation of that permit if they allow anyone on the premises to consume without purchase from the permit holder. they most likely cannot get both types of permits for the same "address/location". The email or any letters they are sending are covering their liability and legal butts. Will be interesting to see how strictly they enforce this. Thank your legislators and state government............ I do wonder what they could do to enforce it. A ticket? That's probably the cost of a permit. And would the university want a PR issue on their hands by ticketing donors during the first home game? The risk to the university is a fine and potential loss of their liquor/beer/wine permit - not to mention the mud in OUr eyes. Again - thank your legislators and state government - or you could get involved and lobby/vote for change in OHIO laws - but I doubt if enough will for enough to do that - as has not changed much since the end of prohibition......... RS Bobcat Back to Top Antonio Pierce General User Member Since: 10/13/2012 Post Count: 243 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/18/2014 7:10:55 AM  RSBobcat wrote: OhioStunter wrote: RSBobcat wrote: Antonio Pierce wrote: Not at the office currently, but I believe it is a state permit filed 30 days prior to the event. Ohio University previously handled the paperwork. Likely then has to do with new licensing the university has for them to sell alcohol - and therefore now they are potentially in violation of that permit if they allow anyone on the premises to consume without purchase from the permit holder. they most likely cannot get both types of permits for the same "address/location". The email or any letters they are sending are covering their liability and legal butts. Will be interesting to see how strictly they enforce this. Thank your legislators and state government............ I do wonder what they could do to enforce it. A ticket? That's probably the cost of a permit. And would the university want a PR issue on their hands by ticketing donors during the first home game? The risk to the university is a fine and potential loss of their liquor/beer/wine permit - not to mention the mud in OUr eyes. Again - thank your legislators and state government - or you could get involved and lobby/vote for change in OHIO laws - but I doubt if enough will for enough to do that - as has not changed much since the end of prohibition......... What is the difference between this year and last? I understand alcohol will be served in the tower. Last year alcohol was served just outside the Convo for the Bobcat Club and I assume will continue this year. Are we sure the University is not changing its policy to its own perceived benefit? If tent areas are not allowed to have alcohol brought in then the assumption is that no tailgaters near the Stadium can have alcohol either. How is this to be enforced? If it is enforced then we are killing the tailgate atmosphere for the average joe so that the Tower Club can drink? Don't let one day define the rest of your life. Back to Top Scott Woods General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: On the banks of the Ohio, OH Post Count: 239 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/18/2014 7:35:36 AM  I got an e-mail yesterday from the Bobcat Club. At the end of the section where it talks about the "Hospitality Village", it states: Ohio Bobcat Club wrote: Also, new this year, a beer garden will be added in the Pepsi Tailgreat Park area. I wonder if that has anything to do with it? Religion morality and knowledge being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged. So enter that daily thou mayest grow in knowledge wisdom and love. So depart that daily thou mayest better serve thy fellowmen thy country and thy God. Back to Top SBH General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Post Count: 4,254 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/18/2014 9:06:01 AM  There's your answer. It's a money grab by Athletics. Not surprising. Back to Top The Situation General User Member Since: 7/12/2010 Location: Columbus, OH Post Count: 957 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/18/2014 9:20:14 AM  Tailgating without alcohol is like building a foundation without mortar, both are critically flawed if asked to support a large crowd. I brought friends to tailgate at Tailgreat Park for each Saturday game last year. I have ZERO percent interest in returning. What a pathetic lack of accommodation for season ticket holders. Back to Top OU_Country General User Member Since: 12/6/2005 Location: On the road between Athens and Madison County Post Count: 8,370 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/18/2014 10:13:16 AM  Scott Woods wrote: I got an e-mail yesterday from the Bobcat Club. At the end of the section where it talks about the "Hospitality Village", it states: Ohio Bobcat Club wrote: Also, new this year, a beer garden will be added in the Pepsi Tailgreat Park area. I wonder if that has anything to do with it? I'm curious how this affects other parking areas that people tailgate in? I'll admit a sizable part of the allure of Ohio Football is the nice, relaxed, family friendly tailgating. For me that includes 2-3 adult beverages in the plastic cup while cooking on the Coleman, and having some chips & dip. I'm not insulting the football itself, but much of why I come is for the great fall gameday atmosphere that has been developed over the last 5-6 years. Back to Top Alan Swank General User Member Since: 12/11/2004 Location: Athens, OH Post Count: 7,208 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/18/2014 10:22:24 AM  SBH wrote: There's your answer. It's a money grab by Athletics. Not surprising. So let me get this right, it's o.k. for the common man to buy beer and drink outside the statement before the game , but inside the stadium that same man morphs into something else and can't purchase a beverage. Back to Top west side cat General User Member Since: 11/6/2012 Location: Cincinnati, OH Post Count: 130 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/18/2014 10:36:25 AM  Agree with oucountry, was really looking forward to tailgating with my wife and daughter who's a junior this year, and that would include a couple jacki o's, but now I have to hide it like a teenager? I've never witnessed anyone doing stupid stuff in tailgreat park, this is ignorant. What about other lots? Back to Top OhioStunter General User Member Since: 2/18/2005 Location: Chicago Post Count: 2,516 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/18/2014 10:45:18 AM  oldkatz wrote: OhioStunter wrote: RSBobcat wrote: Antonio Pierce wrote: Not at the office currently, but I believe it is a state permit filed 30 days prior to the event. Ohio University previously handled the paperwork. Likely then has to do with new licensing the university has for them to sell alcohol - and therefore now they are potentially in violation of that permit if they allow anyone on the premises to consume without purchase from the permit holder. they most likely cannot get both types of permits for the same "address/location". The email or any letters they are sending are covering their liability and legal butts. Will be interesting to see how strictly they enforce this. Thank your legislators and state government............ I do wonder what they could do to enforce it. A ticket? That's probably the cost of a permit. And would the university want a PR issue on their hands by ticketing donors during the first home game? People were ticketed last year at Homecoming. I would have submitted a copy of that ticket, along with a voided check written out to the university for the amount of the fine (the donation they could have had), to McDavis and the Board of Trustees. Last Edited: 9/18/2014 10:52:47 AM by OhioStunter Back to Top Antonio Pierce General User Member Since: 10/13/2012 Post Count: 243 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/18/2014 11:11:05 AM  With all due respect the majority of our attendees do not come for the football game. They come for the overall experience which includes a football game. Restrictions on alcohol consumption greatly changes the atmosphere. Who wants to be corralled into a fenced off area to drink separate from other friends and family? Don't let one day define the rest of your life. Back to Top Speaker of Truth General User Member Since: 1/26/2011 Post Count: 441 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/18/2014 11:21:21 AM  This is rough, but has nothing to do with Athletics. If Athletics could sell alcohol at every event they would, so they are certainly not anti-alcohol. I remember the OU police threatening to arrest people the last couple of years, and some of the higher ups in the Athletics getting into heated arguments with them. If I recall, I remember hearing the officer say he would shut this whole operation down. The money made off a beer garden would be minor compared to the money lost from a policy like this. It is more likely that this mandate came down from the police and the beer garden is Athletics trying to make up for it. Blame this one on state government not OU Athletics. Back to Top OUs LONG Driver General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Copley, OH Post Count: 677 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/18/2014 11:34:49 AM  Enforcement is the key. I spent Sunday morning in the Munilot in Cleveland. They recently "banned" alcohol consumption there. Police walked through several times, but 90% of the people were drinking out in the open. Most in plastic cups but not everyone even bothered with that. There were beer bong towers, flip cup tables, etc right out in the open and none of those people I saw were hassled. Back to Top bobcat695 General User Member Since: 12/20/2004 Location: Parkersburg, WV Post Count: 1,345 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/18/2014 11:37:33 AM  I plan to enjoy Saturday afternoon in Tailgreat Park in the same manner I have before every single game since 1991. I will be surprised if any officer approaches us any differently in the past. This is a college football game, which for most of us is an all day event. I hope the powers to be realize this and behave with the same level of adult civility 99% of Ohio fans show each and every game. "You can't un-fist a fist pump." - Saul Phillips 1/24/15 Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,391 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/18/2014 11:40:44 AM  OhioStunter wrote: RSBobcat wrote: Antonio Pierce wrote: Not at the office currently, but I believe it is a state permit filed 30 days prior to the event. Ohio University previously handled the paperwork. Likely then has to do with new licensing the university has for them to sell alcohol - and therefore now they are potentially in violation of that permit if they allow anyone on the premises to consume without purchase from the permit holder. they most likely cannot get both types of permits for the same "address/location". The email or any letters they are sending are covering their liability and legal butts. Will be interesting to see how strictly they enforce this. Thank your legislators and state government............ I do wonder what they could do to enforce it. A ticket? That's probably the cost of a permit. And would the university want a PR issue on their hands by ticketing donors during the first home game? You do not know or understand the new chief then. He cares not about PR, but he's all about policing. Hell they just put radar in their cars this summer, and are now greatly involved in writing speeding tickets. This is something he very well may attack with vigor! Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,391 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/18/2014 11:42:57 AM  Antonio Pierce wrote: RSBobcat wrote: OhioStunter wrote: RSBobcat wrote: Antonio Pierce wrote: Not at the office currently, but I believe it is a state permit filed 30 days prior to the event. Ohio University previously handled the paperwork. Likely then has to do with new licensing the university has for them to sell alcohol - and therefore now they are potentially in violation of that permit if they allow anyone on the premises to consume without purchase from the permit holder. they most likely cannot get both types of permits for the same "address/location". The email or any letters they are sending are covering their liability and legal butts. Will be interesting to see how strictly they enforce this. Thank your legislators and state government............ I do wonder what they could do to enforce it. A ticket? That's probably the cost of a permit. And would the university want a PR issue on their hands by ticketing donors during the first home game? The risk to the university is a fine and potential loss of their liquor/beer/wine permit - not to mention the mud in OUr eyes. Again - thank your legislators and state government - or you could get involved and lobby/vote for change in OHIO laws - but I doubt if enough will for enough to do that - as has not changed much since the end of prohibition......... What is the difference between this year and last? I understand alcohol will be served in the tower. Last year alcohol was served just outside the Convo for the Bobcat Club and I assume will continue this year. Are we sure the University is not changing its policy to its own perceived benefit? If tent areas are not allowed to have alcohol brought in then the assumption is that no tailgaters near the Stadium can have alcohol either. How is this to be enforced? If it is enforced then we are killing the tailgate atmosphere for the average joe so that the Tower Club can drink? Winner, Winner, Chicken Dinner!!!! Back to Top BillyTheCat General User Member Since: 10/6/2012 Post Count: 10,391 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/18/2014 11:43:34 AM  SBH wrote: There's your answer. It's a money grab by Athletics. Not surprising. +1 They simply want into your pockets! Back to Top ohiobobcats1 General User Member Since: 12/27/2012 Post Count: 46 Status: Offline     RE: No BEER allowed in Tailgreat Park?    Posted: 9/18/2014 12:17:04 PM  To clarify, new this season OUPD in conjunction with state liquor control is not permitting those individuals with tents in Tailgreat Park to sell or distribute alcohol to their guests. Those groups with tents will be placed inside the "beer garden" area where fans will be allowed to purchase alcohol on their own for $5. Other fans (those that do not have tents) will be permitted in this area to purchase alcohol as well. Please note that this does not affect tailgating in other lots or out of individual cars in Tailgreat Park. Fans are encouraged to tailgate responsibly, provided that they do not take up any adjacent parking spaces. Also, it should be noted that Ohio Athletics and Ohio University are not profiting off of this new policy. Alcohol sales in Tailgreat Park are being run by non-profit groups which are keeping all proceeds. The rationale behind this decision was simply motivated by a desire to comply with state and local law enforcement. Feel free to contact your Ohio Ticket Sales Team account representative with any questions about gameday. 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