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Topic: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Topic: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

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Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/15/2014 1:39:50 PM

Not sure if this has been posted but the word is Durell Wood will need surgery and is done for the season. OL and TE is hit really hard and will be playing some of the younger guys. Only one legit TE at this point due to injuries.. Some good news my source mentioned that Freshman Joe Lowery potentially could be one of the best if not best OL Ohio has ever had... mentioned Eric Fisher like skills. The RB position is set for the next 5 years with 5 guys that could all turn into legit starters. Papi White possibly the fastest player in the conference ran a 4.31 laser will contribute right away on special teams and moved around on offense. Dorian Brown could be listed as a #2 but should be the leading RB when its all said and done. Coaches are going crazy with the talent they have at the position and really feel like they have 6 really good backs and 4 dynamic game breakers in Papi,Dorian,Daz and Irons. Great comments about AJ says he's a more fluid version of Beau and will be a player. Qb is set with Vick no issues there and Sprague could see some time similar to how they brought Vick along. Windham is improving and Duckworth will redshirt.
We also spoke about the defense and interestingly enough my source says don't be surprised if Basham and Sayles come off the bench....apparently there could be a rotation of 4 DE...and he mentioned that Trent Smart is a man among boys at that position and they all are young. LB that is flashing star power is Blair Brown.
Very high hopes in the program for this year but he specifically said NEXT YEAR is when you will really see a Top 25 caliber team at Ohio.

FYI Before someone starts groveling note that I said this is cooler talk other than the injury everything else is someone's opinion thanks! Go Bobcats!

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/15/2014 3:10:32 PM

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Sure would be nice to see an OL that could just jell into a unit. Nice to have the young talent. I hope the frosh players will get to take care of their classes so that we can see them as sophs. Still, team continues to get bigger, stronger and faster. I really get a good feeling from following thee young men. See below. HW + D = Excellence.

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/15/2014 4:08:20 PM

According to Arkley, "with nagging injuries to Durrell Wood, Nick Gibbons and now Troy Watson, the starting right-side of that unit is currently first-year players Jake Pruehs (guard) and Jared McCray (tackle)". The offense will surely be exciting with all the young talent. I agree that in a year or two we should be something special.

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/15/2014 8:12:13 PM

I thought it was interesting that Arkley's blog post ran through the WR depth chart, which apparently is getting settled, and transfer Cameron Wilson wasn't listed in the 1's or 2's. Cochran, L. Smith and Cope are the 1's with transfer Bradley and S. Smith off the bench. I figured Wilson would challenge for a starting spot.

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/15/2014 9:55:23 PM

I like linebackers with star power.

I've been saying for a while that we need some difference makers. Now, we begin to go.

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/16/2014 3:26:31 AM

C Money wrote:

Also, where is Wyatt and/or Reid? I see those guys mentioned a lot in practice write ups. I had to Google "Brendan Cope" cause I don't even know who he is.

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/16/2014 4:24:22 AM

Paul Graham wrote:

Also, where is Wyatt and/or Reid? I see those guys mentioned a lot in practice write ups. I had to Google "Brendan Cope" cause I don't even know who he is.

Like Mario Dovell, he was a dual-threat QB in high school that Ohio recruited as an Athlete/Wide Receiver. Also like Dovell, he was injured and sat out his Freshman year. There are a so many young WR in the program now with talent, it was hard to guess who might break out of the group.

Last Edited: 8/16/2014 4:25:45 AM by L.C.

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/16/2014 7:57:14 AM

Paul Graham wrote:

C Money wrote:

Also, where is Wyatt and/or Reid? I see those guys mentioned a lot in practice write ups. I had to Google "Brendan Cope" cause I don't even know who he is.

Bradley mentioned earlier that coach Dixon is all about the techniques and Cochran broke a screen for a long TD in the scrimmage when the Smiths made blocks for him. Plus I think Cope is the son of a coach. I expect coach Dixon's top group has been the most consistent about their routes, techniques, blocks and catches.

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/16/2014 1:05:50 PM

I just find it odd that all of a sudden this guy is a starter. There has been no mention of him in any scrimmage write-ups. No tweets from Arkley about how he is impressing coaches. He was not a highly recruited player (we were his only offer). And then all of a sudden he's beaten out Smith and others for a starting job?

I don't trust our coaches to play our best players...I've said this for years. We choose starters based on some criteria I haven't yet figured out.

Last Edited: 8/16/2014 1:06:40 PM by Paul Graham

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/16/2014 1:46:33 PM

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I don't trust our coaches to play our best players...I've said this for years. We choose starters based on some criteria I haven't yet figured out.

You serious Clark? Are you suggesting they purposely don't play the best player or aren't identifying who you think is the best player? Either way I'm not so sure I buy into those theories.

After Spring ball I am surprised, however, we haven't heard a word about Cam Wilson after he pretty much dominated during that time.

One thing lacking in most of the reports from scrimmages is who the receivers are working against. Are they beating our #1's or our #3's when they make these plays?

I will say I think we are as deep at WR and RB as we've ever been, although a lot of that talent is young (bodes well for the future). I hope the line can stay healthy enough to let these guys go to work.

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/16/2014 3:25:33 PM

OUs LONG Driver wrote:

Paul Graham wrote:

I don't trust our coaches to play our best players...I've said this for years. We choose starters based on some criteria I haven't yet figured out.

You serious Clark? Are you suggesting they purposely don't play the best player or aren't identifying who you think is the best player? Either way I'm not so sure I buy into those theories.

I've never let lack of evidence dissuade me from making wild accusations. But yes, for a long time I've felt that way. The most obvious example is TT, who was clearly toxic and yet continued to start as though nothing was wrong.

Yes, I agree on Wilson. Is he with the team? Is he hurt? What's the problem?

Last Edited: 8/16/2014 3:30:50 PM by Paul Graham

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/16/2014 3:41:07 PM

I know that I don't know what criteria that use to select the wide receivers that play, but i do know that route running and ability to catch the ball is only part of the picture. Blocking is also an important part of the job, perhaps more important. Remember this play against Eastern Michigan a few years ago? (I guarantee you that Blake Poole remembers it.). Think of it this way. There are about 80 offensive plays a game, during which a good wide receiver might average 4 catches. Thus, on the other 76 plays, what is he doing? He's either running a route somewhere, or blocking. Also, I would expect things like knowledge of the playbook, meeting attendance, work ethic, and attitude to play a part in the selection of who plays, and perhaps things such as grades or off-the-field issues.

I don't doubt in the least that the person playing is not always the most talented, but that's because a lot more than talent should go into choosing who should play at WR.

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/16/2014 4:18:36 PM

L.C. wrote:

I don't disagree that blocking is important LC, but blocking is about strength and technique...something that can be taught. All the coaching in the world is not going to turn Landon Smith into Lavon Brazill.

Also, I wonder how this strategy effects our recruiting. If you were a well regarded WR, would you want to come to Ohio? I wouldn't. I'd be afraid of getting passed over by someone less talented because they say the right things in meetings or have the right "attitude."

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/16/2014 4:21:22 PM

Paul Graham wrote:

OUs LONG Driver wrote:

Paul Graham wrote:

I don't trust our coaches to play our best players...I've said this for years. We choose starters based on some criteria I haven't yet figured out.

You serious Clark? Are you suggesting they purposely don't play the best player or aren't identifying who you think is the best player? Either way I'm not so sure I buy into those theories.

Re: Wilson. We are in the wait-out mode with him. Sometimes "all in good time" applies.

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/16/2014 4:36:26 PM

Paul Graham wrote:

...Also, I wonder how this strategy effects our recruiting. If you were a well regarded WR, would you want to come to Ohio? I wouldn't. I'd be afraid of getting passed over by someone less talented because they say the right things in meetings or have the right "attitude."

Yes, certainly I would. Ohio is starting to regularly place wide receivers into the NFL (Price, Brazill, Bates, Foster), and I see that as a trend that will continue. I think we'll see some of this current batch in the NFL as well, and I also think that sooner or later we will see one playing regularly on Sundays.

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/16/2014 4:53:00 PM

Two Y-town guys, Landon Smith and Cope are in the lead for starting WR slots.
Landon has been plagued by injuries, but is a phenomenal athlete. Who can forget his performance at Penn State?
Watch him run patterns when the ball goes away from him. Flat out -all out plus his downfield blocking is stellar.

Cope was a 3 sport athlete at Howland High School near Y-town. Somewhat overshadowed in high school by an all world teammate running back that went to Michigan. He played QB, Running Back and wide out on a high level playoff team and he was the punter. I think the Bobcats liked his size 6"2 or 6"3" and his documented 4.4. speed. He committed early so that may be why he had no other known offers.

Last Edited: 8/16/2014 4:54:23 PM by ytownbobcat

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/16/2014 5:11:10 PM

If there is a position coach who will/should have final say on who plays it would be coach Dixon. No doubt there will be non-football issues that will require players to miss time. Usually these non-football issues are none of my business and I will have to be content not knowing everything.

Last Edited: 8/16/2014 8:16:13 PM by Bcat2

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/16/2014 5:30:01 PM

ytownbobcat wrote:

Congrats to you YTown! But consider me thoroughly unimpressed with this group of starters. Sadly, I'm afraid we're in for another WR-by-committee season where we rotate 8 guys or so and no one ever gets a feel for the game.

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/16/2014 6:10:00 PM

look we have been what 10-9 the last couple of years and we are in year 9 of this staff and looking for a bunch of young guys to carry us. i really do not like where we are and where we appear to be headed. i can only hop iam wrong.

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/16/2014 8:05:53 PM

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If there is a position coach who will/should have final say on plays it would be coach Dixon. No doubt there will be non-football issues that will require players to miss time. Usually these non-football issues are none of my business and I will have to be content not knowing everything.

Out of the 10 best WR's to ever play for Ohio Dixon has coached 7 or 8 of them. He's a great coach.

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/16/2014 9:41:50 PM

Paul Graham wrote:

spot on. since when did we start playing guys that weren't heavily recruited by other schools? and how do you beat out Smith, a guy who has racked up over 300 receiving yards in just 3 short seasons? The guys is a BEAST, obvi. Since when has a player ever done something impressive and Arkley not tweeted about it? I've been saying this for years too- maybe we'd avg more than just 9 wins a year if our best players weren't sitting on the bench. its insane!

you can't see me, but right now I'm standing and slow clapping you for speaking truth to power. so glad somebody had the balls to say it. finally.

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seriously dude, that's some whacky, tin foil hat talk going on. I don't get it at all.

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/16/2014 10:33:28 PM

perimeterpost wrote:

Paul Graham wrote:

and how do you beat out Smith, a guy who has racked up over 300 receiving yards in just 3 short seasons?

I was referring to Sebastian Smith.

Basically, I think LC is right on the money. The choice of who plays and who doesn't is based, in part, on the coach's subjective assessments of player "attitude" and "work ethic." And (from what I can tell) once you are in, you are in. And once you are out, you're out. Just ask Ryan Boykin. Anyone who has played sports at any level has seen such a phenomenon play out. I don't think this is too outlandish of a statement. I would like the formula for selecting who starts to be based slightly more on who can make plays.

Of course, I have little evidence to back this up. But we all play a role on this website. LC is the wonk. Bcat2 is the insider. And I show up every once in a while to say dumb things and stir the pot!

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/16/2014 11:03:35 PM

PG, without going into any details, I can confirm that Ryan Boykin had "non-football" issues that limited his playing time. These were not academic issues or anything that would have landed him in jail. But issues affecting team morale.

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/17/2014 8:09:36 AM

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RE: Durrell Wood rumored to be done for the season and other cooler talk

Posted: 8/17/2014 8:41:29 AM

Paul Graham wrote:

....Basically, I think LC is right on the money. The choice of who plays and who doesn't is based, in part, on the coach's subjective assessments of player "attitude" and "work ethic." .....

I would add that this is the way it should be, and also the way it is in other aspects of life. Any organization needs a certain amount of "skill" from it's members, but teamwork, and community are at least as important in building success.

As an interesting companion to this discussion, consider another current thread, "A cautionary tale from Jim Grobe".

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