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L.C.
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  Message Not Read  Ohio Players Hungry
   Posted: 8/11/2014 2:43:23 PM 
Article on Ncaa.com says that Ohio players are hungry again.
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Kristoff said that Ohio players realized after last season that they won with great effort and intensity and not pure talent.

"What happened at the end of last season was uncharacteristic of an Ohio University team," he said. "We got complacent. We heard how great we were. We got away from trying to win. We were expecting to win. You have to work harder than the other team to be the best in the MAC."



This is something that, while a new problem at Ohio, happens at all successful programs. It's why almost every program has an off-year now and then.

 


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio Players Hungry
   Posted: 8/11/2014 3:48:44 PM 
L.C. wrote:
Article on Ncaa.com says that Ohio players are hungry again.
ncaa.com wrote:
Kristoff said that Ohio players realized after last season that they won with great effort and intensity and not pure talent.

"What happened at the end of last season was uncharacteristic of an Ohio University team," he said. "We got complacent. We heard how great we were. We got away from trying to win. We were expecting to win. You have to work harder than the other team to be the best in the MAC."



This is something that, while a new problem at Ohio, happens at all successful programs. It's why almost every program has an off-year now and then.

 



It seems that it happened way before last season. Could have dated back to as far as 2012 when the SI article came out. It's natural for anyone's head to get big.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio Players Hungry
   Posted: 8/11/2014 7:55:53 PM 
Whew.  I thought this would be about how we need a food truck for the football team.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio Players Hungry
   Posted: 8/11/2014 8:02:53 PM 
Pataskala wrote:
Whew.  I thought this would be about how we need a food truck for the football team.


Parking services would no doubt boot it.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio Players Hungry
   Posted: 8/11/2014 8:30:36 PM 
From the sound of it, the staff is trying to have the players take their dogfood and swallow it about this year as the greatest camp ever. Vick was 1-4 today in 7 on 7 drills and Sprague 3-6. How far can we go this year with average play from the QB position?


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio Players Hungry
   Posted: 8/11/2014 8:46:37 PM 
Uncle Wes wrote:
.... How far can we go this year with average play from the QB position?

Quite far, I would say. If the other parts of the team are as good as I think they will be, average play from the QB position will certainly be enough for a better record than 2013.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio Players Hungry
   Posted: 8/11/2014 8:49:44 PM 
L.C. wrote:
Uncle Wes wrote:
.... How far can we go this year with average play from the QB position?

Quite far, I would say. If the other parts of the team are as good as I think they will be, average play from the QB position will certainly be enough for a better record than 2013.

Buffalo won 8 games with an average QB last year. Ohio could hit a brick wall against the better teams in the MAC for a 2012/2013 style ending.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio Players Hungry
   Posted: 8/11/2014 10:38:53 PM 
I had no idea such significant conclusions could be made from 5 pass attempts thrown in practice.

to think, we were just a couple of completions away from having a great season. damn shame. maybe next year.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio Players Hungry
   Posted: 8/11/2014 11:02:21 PM 
perimeterpost wrote:
I had no idea such significant conclusions could be made from 5 pass attempts thrown in practice.


Things not to say while interviewing for a job as a talking head at ESPN.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio Players Hungry
   Posted: 8/11/2014 11:35:26 PM 
perimeterpost wrote:
I had no idea such significant conclusions could be made from 5 pass attempts thrown in practice....

It's also a universal truth that the defense is ahead of the offense in the first scrimmage. Factor in that the offense is mostly new starters, while it is a veteran defense, and I would expect the defense to be far ahead of the offense. If the offense was scoring on the defense at this point I'd be surprised and concerned.

Last Edited: 8/11/2014 11:35:55 PM by L.C.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio Players Hungry
   Posted: 8/12/2014 9:47:17 AM 
Uncle Wes wrote:
From the sound of it, the staff is trying to have the players take their dogfood and swallow it about this year as the greatest camp ever. Vick was 1-4 today in 7 on 7 drills and Sprague 3-6. How far can we go this year with average play from the QB position?


According to Arkley, that was in the two-minute drill.  Vick was 1-4 for 65 yds and an INT, but he put his team in a position to kick a FG (which Yaz missed).  Sprague was 3-6 for 18 yds.  Earlier in the day, Vick hit Cochran on a screen that essentially went for a TD.  Of course, this was just one day out of the entire camp, and the coaches will be looking at the overall performances in deciding who gets the PT.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio Players Hungry
   Posted: 8/12/2014 5:53:06 PM 
Pataskala wrote:
Uncle Wes wrote:
From the sound of it, the staff is trying to have the players take their dogfood and swallow it about this year as the greatest camp ever. Vick was 1-4 today in 7 on 7 drills and Sprague 3-6. How far can we go this year with average play from the QB position?


According to Arkley, that was in the two-minute drill.  Vick was 1-4 for 65 yds and an INT, but he put his team in a position to kick a FG (which Yaz missed).  Sprague was 3-6 for 18 yds.  Earlier in the day, Vick hit Cochran on a screen that essentially went for a TD.  Of course, this was just one day out of the entire camp, and the coaches will be looking at the overall performances in deciding who gets the PT.

I will ask you this, is our D any better than BG? There is no way. The performances by the QB's mean forget about the BG game and with making it to Detroit. Time to start thinking about 2015.

 


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio Players Hungry
   Posted: 8/12/2014 7:19:22 PM 
Uncle Wes wrote:
I will ask you this, is our D any better than BG? There is no way. The performances by the QB's mean forget about the BG game and with making it to Detroit. Time to start thinking about 2015.

Yes, I would think Ohio's defense will be better than BG. Ohio has 8 starters returning from last year, including most of the key elements, and the best depth they have ever had, and the best speed they have had. BG had a very good defense last year, but lost 6 starters.  Dino Babers did say this will bel the best defense he's ever had, but remember, he's comparing to EIU defenses. Now, I have little doubt that BG will have a better offense than Ohio, and they may well beat Ohio, but I'm not going to concede just yet, especially given that the game will be in Peden.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio Players Hungry
   Posted: 8/12/2014 9:49:25 PM 
L.C. wrote:
Uncle Wes wrote:
I will ask you this, is our D any better than BG? There is no way. The performances by the QB's mean forget about the BG game and with making it to Detroit. Time to start thinking about 2015.

Yes, I would think Ohio's defense will be better than BG. Ohio has 8 starters returning from last year, including most of the key elements, and the best depth they have ever had, and the best speed they have had. BG had a very good defense last year, but lost 6 starters.  Dino Babers did say this will bel the best defense he's ever had, but remember, he's comparing to EIU defenses. Now, I have little doubt that BG will have a better offense than Ohio, and they may well beat Ohio, but I'm not going to concede just yet, especially given that the game will be in Peden.



Last year, we had a better QB in August than every other team in the East and damn near every other team in the MAC.  But not all the games are played in August.  We have one team to beat this month, then an entire month to get ready for the rest of the MAC.  There's plenty of time for improvement.  And games are won or lost not because of one player, but because of the combination of talent, game plan and execution by all members of the team.  BG's the team to beat ... now.  They're in the same situation we were in two years ago.  We woke up in a roadside ditch then.  They may have a ditch waiting for them, too.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio Players Hungry
   Posted: 8/12/2014 9:58:57 PM 
Man, you guys are seriously dishing out the green kool-aid. I'm not ready to drink it yet, but you're making me thirsty.
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   Posted: 8/12/2014 10:08:12 PM 
C Money wrote:
Man, you guys are seriously dishing out the green kool-aid. I'm not ready to drink it yet, but you're making me thirsty.


I'm addicted to the stuff (at least until forced into rehab by a devastating wake-up call) - and this "vintage" is sounding to be pretty good.......


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio Players Hungry
   Posted: 8/12/2014 10:20:50 PM 
C Money wrote:
Man, you guys are seriously dishing out the green kool-aid. I'm not ready to drink it yet, but you're making me thirsty.

It was seeing the excitement and enthusiasm these guys bring every day that caused me to get the Kool-aid out this early. Give me a team that gives 100%, I'll be 100% behind them, whether they win or lose.


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio Players Hungry
   Posted: 8/12/2014 11:59:45 PM 
I was at the forefront of the anger/disappointment over most of the last year and a half.

But that was rather a unique cloud.  If we get back to being the dynamic team that we were for the several years before that, we'll be fine.  While we're young on offense--and that's a big 'but'--this team appears to definitely have more talent than any Coach has put on the field at OHIO.

I think it's reasonable to hope that the cloud has lifted.  BG is good.  They have a fine qb.  But we will play.


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   Posted: 8/13/2014 12:10:12 AM 
C Money wrote:
Man, you guys are seriously dishing out the green kool-aid. I'm not ready to drink it yet, but you're making me thirsty.


You mean you stopped????


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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio Players Hungry
   Posted: 8/13/2014 12:40:48 AM 
L.C. wrote:
Uncle Wes wrote:
I will ask you this, is our D any better than BG? There is no way. The performances by the QB's mean forget about the BG game and with making it to Detroit. Time to start thinking about 2015.

Yes, I would think Ohio's defense will be better than BG. Ohio has 8 starters returning from last year, including most of the key elements, and the best depth they have ever had, and the best speed they have had. BG had a very good defense last year, but lost 6 starters.  Dino Babers did say this will bel the best defense he's ever had, but remember, he's comparing to EIU defenses. Now, I have little doubt that BG will have a better offense than Ohio, and they may well beat Ohio, but I'm not going to concede just yet, especially given that the game will be in Peden.



UMMMM, I realize August is the month for green Kool-Aid, but are we really getting excited about all the **returning** starters we have from last year's defense? Is that the same defense BG hung 35 on in the first half? And went on to beat us 49-0? A now the season hasn't even started yet, but we're claiming that we have the superior defense. I'm confused.
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  Message Not Read  RE: Ohio Players Hungry
   Posted: 8/13/2014 9:02:04 AM 
That one crazy fan wrote:
C Money wrote:
Man, you guys are seriously dishing out the green kool-aid. I'm not ready to drink it yet, but you're making me thirsty.


You mean you stopped????


Yeah, somewhere between getting McCabe'd and being down 14-0 two minutes into BG, I fell off the wagon. Then when we got Nate Terhune'd I hit rock bottom.

But it's a new season, and I want to drink again. I promised myself I would not be a pollyanna this year, though. High hopes = crushed dreams. Low expectations = can't be disappointed.

It's the same phenomenon as my Reds fandom...as soon as I get the least bit of optimism, they blow it. Only when I'm pessimistic do the Reds do anything good.
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