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oucs 1986
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Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/17/2012 3:43:18 PM

Speculation among the Kentucky fan-base...

Per the talking heads, Kentucky has a short list of replacement coaches, and the leading candidate is...

Frank Solich.

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/17/2012 3:49:44 PM

Good luck with that. It would take Frank a long time to turn that program around.

Further, that program is never going to be a year-in, year-out competitor in football. Rich Brooks did about all you can do with them. UK is too invested into basketball. You may have the good year here or there, but I dont even think Frank looks at that seriously if they came calling.

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/17/2012 3:55:21 PM

I understand this is speculation but why would he go? He would be going into a fire storm at Kentucky where they want instant success, it took Frank 7(?) years to get us to this point and the UK fan base doesn't have that kind of patience like we have. Frank is like royalty in Athens and he would be taking over the Eastern Michigan of the SEC. Besides rumor is most of the money is funneled into basketball and football gets the bare bones minimum. I hope he doesn't leave and I understand it's just the talking heads talking but I honestly feel he won't take it. Rumor was around 5 years ago Frank was the top candidate for the Minnesota job and he declined, would he really want to take on another rebuilding project all these years later with his feet instantly in the fire or would he rather retire enjoying the fruit of his labor? He doesn't seem like a guy that follows money but then again we thought the same way about Groce....

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/17/2012 4:25:14 PM

That's ridiculous.

For one Kentucky is a basketball school.

Secondly Frank's current team would kick Kentucky's arse in football.

Thirdly Frank went to school in Ohio....not Kentucky...and he's soon to retire......with a winning football program...not a losing one.

Last Edited: 9/17/2012 4:25:46 PM by Doc Bobcat

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/17/2012 4:27:37 PM

University of Kentucky Athletic Director Mitch Barnhart got his master's degree at Ohio. But so did the rest of the AD's in the country, so that means nothing.

I like to imagine that phone call would go like this:

Barnhart: "Frank, what would it take for you to leave Athens and take over this...uh...wonderful football program? We're nominally in the SEC! Look it up on Wikipedia! We're legit and everything!"

Solich: "I want Calipari money."

Barnhart: "Done."

Solich: "I want the guarantee that Tim Couch will never, ever, not ever, never be forced to be my quarterback coach."

Barnhart: "Done."

Solich: "I want Ashley Judd to be the first person every high school recruit sees when they enter campus."

Barnhart: "Would you take Wynonna?"

Solich: "Did you just ask me that?."

Barnhart: "Sorry. Okay. Done. So it's a deal?"

Solich: I wasn't done. And..."

Barnhart: "And?"

Solich: "Kentucky."

Barnhart: "What do you mean, Kentucky?"

Solich: "The state. I want you to hand over the deed to the entire state of Kentucky. Every hill, every tree, every crag of rock...okay maybe not Richmond..."

Last Edited: 9/17/2012 4:36:47 PM by Brian Smith (No, not that one)

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/17/2012 4:30:40 PM

I do not see Frank leaving OHIO, but if he was going to go anywhere Kentucky might be the place. Ohio and Kentucky both have strong traditions in basketball with underachieving football programs. We can toot OUr football horn all we want, but before Frank we were every bit as bad in football as Kentucky. Yes, Kentucky would be a very hard build for someone Frank's age... But if you are an old guy, what conference do you want to coach in? The SEC. A couple years ago I would've argued about the other top conferences, but it has become very clear who leads the nation.

I've seen crazier things happen.

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/17/2012 4:36:52 PM

Doc Bobcat wrote:

For one Kentucky is a basketball school.

Somewhere, a KentuckyCatFan is saying, "We're a football school!" to anyone who will listen.

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/17/2012 4:51:54 PM

JSF wrote:

Doc Bobcat wrote:

For one Kentucky is a basketball school.

Somewhere, a KentuckyCatFan is saying, "We're a football school!" to anyone who will listen.

Their is actually a thread over on the UK boards where Doc Wildcat discusses his thoughts on the recruits whose games he was able to flyover. Talk about a program on the rise.

I've seen crazier things happen.

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/17/2012 4:55:32 PM

Doc Bobcat wrote:

That's ridiculous.

For one Kentucky is a basketball school....

Wait. All these years dragon has been telling me Ohio was a basketball school....

Ohiofan23 wrote:

..and that patience is why Ohio deserves they success they have - they allowed Frank to build the program the right way. Ohio fans are a very, very special and unusual group. Even in the 4-8 year of 2008, no one was jumping down Frank's throat. The press wasn't hostile. The fans weren't hostile. Everyone was disappointed, but looking forward to the next year. As a coach, that's what you want. Heck, in any position, that's what you want - support and encouragement whether times are good or bad. Having fun in life, and being treated well are often much more valuable than money.

I think that applies to some of the assistant coaches, too - I think most of them could find more money elsewhere, but along with that would find less job security, less fun, and less job satisfaction. Most of the assistants have had the experience of being part of a staff that was terminated, and a situation where the fans were hostile. I think that's why they appreciate the way they are treated in Athens so much. That's the only explanation for why there is so little staff turnover. Seriously, take a look at the Bios of the assistants, and look at what they have accomplished here at Ohio. Is there even one of them that probably couldn't find another job somewhere, if they were looking?

KY can offer more money than Ohio pays. I don't think Frank probably needs the money, and he's working past 65 not because of money, but because he is having fun. He has said he'll keep coaching as long as he's still having fun. Going in, and starting a new rebuild doesn't sound much like fun, now, does it? Having fans and press constantly looking over his shoulder, second guessing what he does, etc, doesn't sound much like fun. I saw Frank in press conferences in Nebraska. Every time he confronted the press, before games, after them, whenever, he was tense, bracing for the inevitable barrage of hostile questions. Now, at conferences he is relaxed, having fun, fielding softball questions, and making jokes, and making analogies to Direct TV commercials. He most certainly is having fun.

Now, let's say that Kentucky approached one of the Ohio assistant coaches, say Albin, Gdowski, Dixon, or Burrow, and offered them the job, and the chance to make their own name. In that case, I would think they probably would take it, and give it a shot. Two former Solich assistants are already head coaches, Bo Pelini and Carl Pelini, so why not a third one?

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/17/2012 4:56:47 PM

JSF wrote:

Doc Bobcat wrote:

For one Kentucky is a basketball school.

Somewhere, a KentuckyCatFan is saying, "We're a football school!" to anyone who will listen.

...from a boat, on an iphone.

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/17/2012 4:57:18 PM

The Optimist wrote:

JSF wrote:

Doc Bobcat wrote:

For one Kentucky is a basketball school.

Somewhere, a KentuckyCatFan is saying, "We're a football school!" to anyone who will listen.

Their is actually a thread over on the UK boards where Doc Wildcat discusses his thoughts on the recruits whose games he was able to flyover. Talk about a program on the rise.

Yeah but our Doc flys over successful recruits.....when the do you want to play at Kentucky and get your arse beat question enters the picture the flyovers become few and far between.

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/17/2012 5:04:35 PM

L.C. wrote:

Doc Bobcat wrote:

That's ridiculous.

For one Kentucky is a basketball school....

Wait. All these years dragon has been telling me Ohio was a basketball school....

Ohiofan23 wrote:

Having fans and press constantly looking over his shoulder, second guessing what he does, etc, doesn't sound much like fun. I saw Frank in press conferences in Nebraska. Every time he confronted the press, before games, after them, whenever, he was tense, bracing for the inevitable barrage of hostile questions. Now, at conferences he is relaxed, having fun, fielding softball questions, and making jokes, and making analogies to Direct TV commercials. He most certainly is having fun.

I agree, he's been there done that, and I don't think he'd want to go back to that atmosphere. Sometimes there are advantages to be a "mid major." Never thought I'd say that in my life...

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/17/2012 5:23:37 PM

Ohiofan23 wrote:

...I agree, he's been there done that, and I don't think he'd want to go back to that atmosphere. Sometimes there are advantages to be a "mid major." Never thought I'd say that in my life...

It's not the fact that Ohio is a "mid major" that makes it a good place for Solich. It's the Ohio fans. I think if Solich could be in a conference where he had a legitimate shot at a National Championship, and also had the Ohio fans, he's be happy there, too.

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/17/2012 5:34:57 PM

Frank is not going anywhere no one is going to hire a 70 year old coach

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/17/2012 7:12:09 PM

Ryan Carey wrote:

JSF wrote:

Doc Bobcat wrote:

For one Kentucky is a basketball school.

Somewhere, a KentuckyCatFan is saying, "We're a football school!" to anyone who will listen.

...from a boat, on an iphone.

Well played Ryan.

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/17/2012 7:21:30 PM

The best way I can answer this is with a question.

Does a coach want his statue outside of a stadium or his linked in profile updated?

Frank is going to leave a legacy at Ohio that he could never, at this point in his life, duplicate at Kentucky.

All UK is at this point is resume fodder. For a coach pushing 70, that is beloved at his current school, that seems rather inconsequential does it not?

My high school basketball coach had an old saying.....There are two things that don't last: Dogs that chase cars and teams that don't make free-throws.

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/18/2012 12:12:39 AM

L.C. is exacty correct about that 4-8 year. You know me; I'm griping if the effort and conception are not right. But even in that 4-8 year, you could see that we were doing it right, you could see the future.

I very much believe that Coach will stay at OHIO, a place where he can be a football coach in an excellent way without all the who-needs-it stuff of the over-pressured spotlight.

Heck, shouldn't the question be 'who will be wise enough in 10-12 years to come here and take this splendid OHIO gig?'

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/18/2012 9:51:49 AM

Monroe Slavin wrote:

Next coach will be groomed by coach Solich or perhaps someone he knows.

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/18/2012 10:13:12 AM

I just don't see Kentucky being able to sell the move to its fanbase. He'll be 69 years old at the beginning of next season. They aren't a year or two away from becoming competitive. Five years ago, maybe. I'd also be shocked if Frank would take the job. I'm not saying there aren't jobs he would leave Ohio for but not one like Kentucky. I think the talking heads don't realize just how old Frank is.

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/18/2012 10:18:18 AM

OUVan wrote:

I think the talking heads don't realize just how old Frank is.

I don't think it matters, FRANKly. (yes, i did that)

He works hard, he loves what he does, and he's excellent at it.

He doesn't play the game. He leads the organization.

As long as he can build a staff and set the tone for how he wants things done, I don't think Mr. Solich's age plays into it very much.

Leadership skills and knowledge don't diminish with age, and there's no other way to get experience.

I hope Coach Solich stays here another 10 years. I truly do. He's done wonderful things here.

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/18/2012 10:28:13 AM

You also have to factor in his staff..any coach worth his salt will always consider the status and financial improvement of his staff if he were to make a move. It's not ALL on Coach Solich and how comfortable he is here at Ohio. An undefeated year this year or another 10 win plus bowl game and you will see a scramble for his services. U can take that to the BANK!

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/18/2012 1:42:48 PM

oucs 1986 wrote:

Of course it matters. It doesn't matter to us because he's already built the program. It has taken Frank 8 years to get us to this point. If he goes to Kentucky now he would be almost 80 in a similar time frame. And the job at Kentucky is a lot harder because the conference they play in is ridiculously deep in extremely good programs. And it's a great theory that all he has to do is build the foundation, all it takes is one coach to tear it asunder which is typically what happens.

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/18/2012 5:24:40 PM

He's too old to try and rebuild Kentucky now, if anything Arkansas should have tried to hire him to keep that program moving forward for 2 or 3 seasons after Petrino got canned.

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RE: Radio talking heads after Kentucky Game....

Posted: 9/18/2012 5:37:14 PM

This rumor and others of its ilk (yeah I said it) deserve the silent treatment...

Last Edited: 9/18/2012 5:45:11 PM by Bobcat36

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