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Which venue makes the most sense for a MAC FB championship game?

Posted: 11/29/2011 11:02:41 PM

Which venue makes the most sense for a MAC FB championship game?

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Wondering if Detroit makes the most sense to host a championship game when one of the teams likely will appear again in the same venue for a bowl game. Thoughts on other venues?

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RE: Which venue makes the most sense for a MAC FB championship game?

Posted: 11/29/2011 11:11:24 PM

Detroit, it's as close as you can get to being centrally located and is also indoors. While I have no problem being in the cold, it does do a number on attendance.

Last Edited: 11/29/2011 11:12:56 PM by That one crazy fan

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RE: Which venue makes the most sense for a MAC FB championship game?

Posted: 11/29/2011 11:58:16 PM

Cleveland would be nice so the MAC Champ game isn't a home field for the Michigan schools. I can't see the game moving from Detroit though.

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RE: Which venue makes the most sense for a MAC FB championship game?

Posted: 11/30/2011 7:06:43 AM

Probably Detroit for a lot of reasons. It's indoors; it's a major hub, so it's easier to get to from most places; and for the time being it helps to balance the location of the basketball championship games -- the East is where the basketball powers are concentrated and Cleveland gives the East "home court" while the West dominates in football and Detroit gives them "home field." As for Michigan teams getting a home field advantage, that's true -- when they're there. I'd venture to guess that Ohio teams have been in more MAC football championship games than Michigan teams have.

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RE: Which venue makes the most sense for a MAC FB championship game?

Posted: 11/30/2011 8:03:14 AM

I wouldn't mind a rotation of site between Indy, Detroit and Cleveland, but I'm sure there are financial advantages to having it in one place.

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Posted: 11/30/2011 10:26:37 AM

All in All, I am fine with Detroit and you are assured of perfect playing conditions which does not benefit a run oriented team vs. a passing team in the event of bad weather.

If we considered an outdoor stadium, Columbus would probably be the best fit in terms of location and a little better weather than Cleveland. Some college team in Columbus has had their spring practice game at Crew Stadium in the past (during their stadium renovation) and there have been several high school games there as well. The seating capacity of 22,555 is perfect to avoid showing a stadium with 30,000 empty seats.

I think a location like Columbus really opens up the opportunity for more alumni to drive from more locations than Detroit or Cleveland. I have friends in Richmond with Ohio and Columbus ties who went to MAC Schools. I might have flown to Columbus to stay with my family or even driven at the last minute. The cost of flying into Detroit, the hotel or the extra drive if I flew to Columbus to meet family and then travel to Detroit just seemed to be a bit too much in terms of cost and logistics although I did do that in 2006.

Another idea for Columbus or any other location for that matter might be to have some type of coaches clinic for high school coaches that was conducted by the MAC with head coaches from any or all of the MAC Schools particpating. Would be great publicity and help elevate the entire conference.

Again, I am fine with Detroit, but wanted to throw the idea of Crew Stadium out.

Last Edited: 11/30/2011 10:37:12 AM by Bobcat Grad 86

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RE: Which venue makes the most sense for a MAC FB championship game?

Posted: 11/30/2011 10:43:50 AM

Bobcat Grad 86 wrote:

I didn't know about this option, better weather-wise than Cleveland so I switch my third choice to this.

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RE: Which venue makes the most sense for a MAC FB championship game?

Posted: 11/30/2011 1:25:13 PM

Crew Stadium is a much better option than Cleveland, IMO, because you lose the chance for big lake-effect snowfall. I still think indoors makes more sense, though, which leaves Detroit, because I don't think you'll see Indy want to flip the stadium in under 24 hours for the Big Ten Championship (I'm sure they'll actually be using the facility the day before the game for walkthroughs, media, etc.).

As far as Columbus being better driving for alumns, I think that is very OU-centric thinking. I once calculated the geographic center of our conference, and it was pretty close to Detroit.

EDIT: Just redid it, with the 12 full members, the center is right around Perrysburg. Add the two east-coast members (doesn't make sense not to include UMASS in planning), and it moves a touch East on I-90. Toledo would be the best option, if it offered a stadium viable for the event. http://www.geomidpoint.com/?ml=41.501416&mn=-83.41496...

I also decided to do a weighted calculation based on how many times current conference members have appeared in the game (including this year's). Result? Pretty similar: http://www.geomidpoint.com/?ml=41.5292407&mn=-83.7963...

Last Edited: 11/30/2011 1:50:10 PM by anorris

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RE: Which venue makes the most sense for a MAC FB championship game?

Posted: 11/30/2011 1:37:24 PM

No complaints about Detroit, but I'd like a Detroit-Indy-Cleveland rotation.

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Posted: 11/30/2011 1:38:17 PM

anorris wrote:

I agree overall that Detroit is probably the best option and agree it is the central point for the locations of the school campuses. I was factoring in the entire eastern seaboard for alumni, students or even family of players from other states such as personally "centric thinking" Virginia. Most people would actually be traveling from their home in December and not from the actual campus.

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RE: Which venue makes the most sense for a MAC FB championship game?

Posted: 11/30/2011 1:56:02 PM

Crew Stadium is not exactly a palace. Cheap aluminum stands, few amenities, lousy parking, nothing but McD's within miles of the place (literally). Great freeway access though.

If you want to talk Columbus, why not the horseshoe? Leave your A&M bias behind and think like a MAC Commissioner. Facilities, atmosphere, location, nearby accomodations and food, etc. It's perfect.

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Posted: 11/30/2011 1:57:19 PM

I only want it in Detroit. My wife has no interest in sitting outside for this game, and frankly I like the indoor forecast for Friday as well. The weather in early December anywhere in the MAC is not very pleasant so playing the game indoors is an appealing draw for all the fans. Until there is a roof on Cleveland Browns Stadium, I am OK going to Detroit for this game.

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RE: Which venue makes the most sense for a MAC FB championship game?

Posted: 11/30/2011 2:11:50 PM

bobcat695 wrote:

I only want it in Detroit. My wife has no interest in sitting outside for this game, and frankly I like the indoor forecast for Friday as well. The weather in early December anywhere in the MAC is not very pleasant so playing the game indoors is an appealing draw for all the fans. Until there is a roof on Cleveland Browns Stadium, I am OK going to Detroit for this game.

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RE: Which venue makes the most sense for a MAC FB championship game?

Posted: 11/30/2011 2:29:52 PM

Bobcatbob wrote:

I don't know that the owner would be okay with another conference's title game being held there, even if its name does suggest that its ours

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RE: Which venue makes the most sense for a MAC FB championship game?

Posted: 11/30/2011 2:59:59 PM

Crew Stadium and buy a hat and gloves. With the way this world is heading, I doubt we'll do ANYTHING outside in 50 years.

Horseshoe is too big. Crew stadium is perfect.

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Posted: 11/30/2011 3:28:44 PM

I like Detroit for the championship - I think the Bowl should move.

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RE: Which venue makes the most sense for a MAC FB championship game?

Posted: 11/30/2011 3:46:35 PM

Bobcatbob wrote:

Good points on Crew Stadium. My family lives in Columbus and I have driven by the stadium on I-71, but had not been in or directly around the stadium.

I would rather stay in Detroit than the Horseshoe and not because it is Ohio State, it is simply too big. Of the NFL stadiums, Ford Field is probably the most "cozy" and I really like the design with the large glass that gives you a feel for a day or night game.

Also a good point about the perfect weather to keep the spouses happy!

Detroit is way better than all of those years they had the game at Marshall!

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Posted: 11/30/2011 3:58:06 PM

Andrew Ruck wrote:

With the way this world is heading, I doubt we'll do ANYTHING outside in 50 years.

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Agreed that the Horseshoe is simply too large.

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RE: Which venue makes the most sense for a MAC FB championship game?

Posted: 11/30/2011 4:22:37 PM

Here's my idea. Have a MAC kick-off classic as early in August as permitted where the rivals play each other--perhaps grab TV like MAC does during weeknights in November. Then hold the MAC Championship a week earlier on THANKSGIVING DAY at Fawcett Field in Canton the craddle of civilization for football. I bet there would be a pretty good national TV audience for a Conference Championship game on that day.

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RE: Which venue makes the most sense for a MAC FB championship game?

Posted: 11/30/2011 5:43:27 PM

Good idea! I'd love to take the opportunity that Thanksgiving could provide. How many football fans have NO interest in Dallas or Detroit? Seems like an easy sell.

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Posted: 11/30/2011 6:46:44 PM

MonroeClassmate wrote:

Intriguing idea, maybe have the Ohio rivalries alternate. For example have the season start with an Ohio/Miami, Kent/Akron or BG/Toledo match up. Maybe even a double header would be an interesting idea. My only concern is High school football plays at Crew Stadium at the beginning of the season and I'm pretty sure (someone correct me if I'm wrong) that the semi finals and finals of the state football tournament are played in Canton however I don't know when those games are played.

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Posted: 11/30/2011 8:16:53 PM

The reason for doing "kick-off" classics back in the day was that you were allowed to play an extra game (back when the limit was 11 games). This year, every MAC team DID open play as early as they were allowed. Its not like there is an untapped/un-played-upon weekend there that everyone is just missing: the thursday before labor day IS the start of the season.

EDIT: Plus, Canton is only the cradle of the fairly boring version of football that is predominately played on sundays.

Last Edited: 11/30/2011 8:18:20 PM by mf279801

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Posted: 11/30/2011 9:15:53 PM

Andrew Ruck wrote:

With the way this world is heading, I doubt we'll do ANYTHING outside in 50 years.

You know, in 50 years, with global warming Ohio in December will be like Florida, so nobody will need a domed stadium.

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Posted: 12/1/2011 10:32:18 PM

The game should be in Los Angeles. Great weather. New stadium to be built and prime attraction needed. Plus, the 'Cats are huge in Southern California and the national exposure would boost recruiting.

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