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Topic: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Topic: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

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Bobcat36
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Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/23/2011 12:43:46 AM

Good GAWD this board is hard to swallow sometimes. Yeah...You're right guys...I mean that's only 9 & 3 and 6 in a row against Fiami. I just read all 10 gripping pages and I'm honestly embarassed to be a fan right now.

Last Edited: 11/23/2011 12:51:22 AM by Bobcat36

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Jerry86
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/23/2011 11:50:06 AM

Bobcat36 wrote:

The posts are semi-humorous, yet rather pathetic at the same time. Emotional outbursts in the heat of the moment. And I suspect that some posters forget that this is actually just a football game -- there are far bigger issues in life. That said, I think any post that criticizes an individual player should be deleted immediately. There's really no place for that when an 18-22 year old kid is doing his best to play a sport he was recruited to play. Many of the posts seem to come from a relatively small group of posters. I suspect they're sometimes embarrassed after the game when we end up with a W. I'd think some would quit posting and create a new ID so they'd not look so foolish on an ongoing basis.

Brian Smith (No, not that one)
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/23/2011 1:56:49 PM

Are you guys new to the internet?

That thing would be considered a day at the park compared to AQ game thread on a message board.

And all that stuff is exactly what is floating through your brain during a game. We just typed it out. Looking back on it, it was 10 pages of "This is ugly"...WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT EVERY AMERICAN WAS SAYING WHILE WATCHING THAT GAME.

Again, welcome to the internet.

Last Edited: 11/23/2011 2:03:07 PM by Brian Smith (No, not that one)

Casper71
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/23/2011 2:30:09 PM

36...I tend to agree with your concept. It's really a matter of some people who need to get a life. Most of us don't care what they think during the game.

Having said that, I just WATCH the game and IGNORE the net. Since nobody will have their right to free speech impaired, I would suggest you just ignore the stuff too. I know, this is just the way things are nowdays (and I probably had some of the same thoughts during the game) but I find it hard to believe some people have to put their every thought about the game in writing on the internet. Call me old school...I do not have a facebook page telling everyone when I go to the bathroom either! Excuse me, gotta go!

Jerry86
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/23/2011 4:04:39 PM

Brian Smith wrote:

Actually I've probably forgotten more about the internet than you'll ever know.

Second, if you're that obsessed with having the need to post during the game I suggest you have an addiction problem. Last, most of the posts alluded to add absolutely nothing to the game. Maybe you're aspiring wanna-be coaches of some 8 year olds and need to expound your expertise.

Jerry86
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/23/2011 4:05:55 PM

Casper71 wrote:

Agreed. WATCH the game!! What a concept for some here.

JSF
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/23/2011 4:55:07 PM

Jerry86 wrote:

Actually I've probably forgotten more about the internet than you'll ever know.

Are you bragging about memory loss?

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Lande71
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/23/2011 5:11:14 PM

This is why the chat room probably should be utilized instead of the FB forum. I've checked in there most every game and no one's there for FB or BB any more. I enjoyed watching the posts during a game. I'm not computer literate, therefore to follow the FB forum as a chat session I guess I have to use my mouse to go back and forth to get updates? At least that's the way I do it. With the chat I could watch the game on computer, when not on TV, and chat at the same time w/o working so hard! During the Arkansas St. BB game I don't believe anyone was anywhere chatting. Just my thoughts.

L.C.
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/23/2011 5:38:54 PM

The chat room did work better, but I can't seem to get it to work anymore. The point of posting during the game isn't because of addiction. In my case there is no one around here interested the Ohio game, and it's nice to have friends to chat with. Chatting during the game with others unable to attend allows you to share with them. Now, as for why some people get so negative during games, that I have no idea.....

�We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.� ― Epictetus

Lande71
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/23/2011 5:58:54 PM

I've had no trouble getting into the chat room. There are a couple questions you have to answer, the first is (run) and the second is yes or no. It makes sense to me that yes would be the right way to answer, but it won't work for me with that response dating back to last year. So I say No and it goes through. I won't say it all goes through "quickly"! But it does get me there. Problem is that no else is there! I don't think Tim even goes there anymore!

First Street Forever
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/24/2011 12:58:44 AM

Can't someone get the old chat with the sounds to work? That was the best one. Nothing like hearing a bunch of "roars" when the 'Cats did something good and a symphony of toilets flushing when they did something bad. That was such a great interactive fan experience.

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RSBobcat
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/24/2011 2:46:33 AM

L.C. wrote:

L.C. nailed it. The comraderie for (especially) remote from Athens/OHIO colleagues is what makes the in-game thread interaction appealing.

@Jerry6 - No, we don't NEED to post, we WANT to post. And sure, we all want to be coaches! (wonder how many of the top 50 BA posters have at some time 'coached" a sporting team - of any age players? I bet it's a pretty high percentage.) Of course, like anything, some are "better" than others, but it's an equal opportunity to participate (or ignore) forum.

As well, as Brian Smith said - this site is absolutely childs play compared to the AQ teams fan forum sites!

RS Bobcat

L.C.
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/24/2011 8:14:20 AM

When I try to run chat, first i get "warning - the application's digital signature has an error. Do you want to run the application?" (the digital signature was generated with a trusted certificate but has expired)

I run it anyway. Next it tells me "Java has discovered application components that could indicate a security concern." and recommends that I block unsafe components from being run. It says that "the application contains both signed and unsigned code, and suggests contacting the application vendor to ensure it has not been tampered with.

Next I tell it I don't care about security and to run it anyway.I get:
Connecting...
Logging in...
*** Looking up your host name
*** Checking Ident
*** Found your hostname
*** No ident response
Error closing link
Disconnected from masters.ix.us.dal.net

�We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.� ― Epictetus

Bobcat Grad 86
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/24/2011 8:35:00 AM

Chat Room has not worked for years on my computer. I miss it because the Submarine Ping would drive my wife nuts!

Ryan Carey
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/24/2011 10:33:36 AM

I'm not sure what is up with the chat...it hasn't worked for me for years. My home router was actually blocking it once.

Anyways, I've brought back the original chat room, hopefully it works. I originally took it down because it wasn't working when there were lots of users on the site...although that was when the site was on a less powerful server.

Let me know if things don't work.

Ryan M. Carey
BBA 2001

L.C.
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/24/2011 10:43:05 AM

Woot!. You rock, Ryan. Talk about prompt response....

�We have two ears and one mouth so that we can listen twice as much as we speak.� ― Epictetus

Brian Smith (No, not that one)
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/26/2011 1:39:58 PM

Jerry86 wrote:

Brian Smith wrote:

Two things.

I cover on average eight to nine sporting events a week that I watch, have no rooting interest and then callously write about. Once or twice a week, a team with the name OHIO on the jersey plays and I get some emotional investment in it. I don't say anything profane or personally damning. I get to live and die for two hours in a football game. Then I forget about it and get to go back to being an autobot through life like some David Foster Wallace character. Give me my two hours. I don't want to coach. I don't know better than the coaches. But people like me, who have NO ACTUAL PERSONAL INVOLVEMENT WITH THE PROGRAM, buy tickets, make trips and support the programs. If it's just parents and coaches, take it to the local YMCA.

Second, there are no water coolers when it comes to Ohio sports. Ohio State fans on Monday will talk with co-workers about their Buckeyes. We have no one else. This is our bar, this is our virtual billiards room when it comes to Ohio sports. Keep winning and there may be actual peope to talk about the Ohio-Miami game on Monday mornings. Not yet.

I have no compunction to address your strange eluding to addiction. If human beings' need to be heard, to be understood is an addiction, we're all advanced apes who are chock full of them for millions of years. This connection happens to be wireless. That may be a bad thing. Get back to me in 100 years. Such is the age. Deal with it.

I'd argue sitting in front of a television blankly, without interaction is as popcorn brain inducing as me having an IPad on my lap while watching the game.

It's quite generational. My parents of the baby boomer generation sat in front of black and white screens for hours. They find it weird that I want to discuss an episode of Breaking Bad as it's happening. Their parents thought sitting in front of a screen quite shy the virtue of listening to the radio while reading the newspaper (another bit of multitasking I'm sure you'd tsk at, Jerry).

I read while I listen to music. I watch TV and tweet. I also go on walks without a sound or outside stimulus other than bird tweets to involve me on a daily basis.

Addiction? Whatever, I call it my life. Live yours.

Last Edited: 11/26/2011 1:59:15 PM by Brian Smith (No, not that one)

Bobcat36
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/26/2011 6:25:31 PM

When living your life impacts others in a negative way, it's time to re-examine how you're living it. My original request was simply to have the thread removed so the venomous, childish ranting directed at student athletes isn't immortalized. I fully realize it pales in comparison to boards of AQ schools (I live in central Ohio afterall) but that doesn't excuse it. Those boards are filled with commentary from people who have little if any interest in the University outside of their ability to throw on a jersey and become a card carrying member of the mob. I get freedom of speech / expression ... I just don't understand why it has to be carved in stone for everyone to see long after those that typed it (hopefully) realize it was a mistake to voice it.

Hopefully the chat room can be resurrected making this a non issue...

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PutnamField
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/26/2011 11:10:46 PM

Bobcat36 wrote:

The reason it's "carved in stone" is that this is the Internet. For better or worse, that's how it works, and as big boys or girls we should realize that and make our own choices about whether and how to participate.

Also, by virtue of the fact that everything we post reflects on us, you should have nothing to worry about. People who think the way you do have the ability to join you in forming positive or negative judgments about users of the Web site and their ideas. Conversely, people who don't think like you can form judgments that are as opposite to your judgments as they wish. In that respect, it's no different than how our opinions work away from the Internet.

For example, I disagree with you about censoring or deleting threads that contain direct criticisms of individual student-athletes. The football and basketball players at OU are considered to be public figures under our legal system. They're limited public figures, but they're public figures nonetheless. Further, they're all legal adults who could go join the military, kill other human beings and be exposed to life-alteringly horrible events, but you apparently think that they shouldn't be able to handle public criticism of how they play games or conduct themselves in the community while receiving something of immense value in return for their participation in college sports.

Whether or not somebody goes too far in that criticism is a matter or opinion, and it could also become a legal matter if it crossed over into defamation of character, invasion of privacy or casting someone in a false light.

That's how it works, Bub, so you might as well be an adult about it.

As a final example, and I don't post this to be mean or to call you out specifically but rather to try to help you understand, you posted something in September that "impacted me in a negative way." You were undoubtedly just living your life, so it just speaks to the issue of subjectivity and letting the chips fall where they may when it comes to freedom of speech. Here's what you wrote:

Bobcat36 wrote:

For a good dose of Marshall math mixed with Appalachian grammar all under a warm blanket of blind Groupthink loyalty, check out this gem from Aaron...

As a longtime resident of Appalachia who has some Appalachian roots and whose grammar is as good or better than anybody else on this board, I found that slightly offensive. But, my "recourse" was not to ask the mods to delete it - it was to remember that Bobcat36 has posted something of this nature and to form a bit of a judgment about that. It's that simple.

Bobcat36
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/28/2011 11:00:43 AM

Putnam,

If you dig a little deeper you'll find I apologized for those comments. Additionally, I find them no different than someone railing on people from a specific city (i.e. my home town of Cleveland) or on "Yankee's" in general. None the less, they were comments that I did apologize for.

The difference here though, is that they were directed at a deserving troll that opened himself to criticism when he decided to start running his mouth about OUr program.

The comments I read on the thread in question, again, were directed at Student Athletes and worse, members of the team and future Alumni of the University this board was put in place to support.

You can choose to view them as "public figures" all you want, I choose to look at them as kids in the same station in life I was in at their age. I choose to treat them and my Alma Mater with respect and dignity until such time as either does something to change that truly deserves public statements to the contrary.

I was simply suggesting that while I can see the value of a forum to vent during the actual event, no good comes of them remaining for public consumption after the fact. If one feels strongly enough about some performance trend or coaching policies later on to post a well thought out comment, I have no issue with that. The fact that the Internet has proved itself to be a nasty weapon in the wrong hands, doesn't mean I can't comment when I fell it's being misused by our members.

Again, I get that they don't compare to comments made on AQ type boards on a daily basis, but my sincere hope is that we never compare ourselves to that type of fan base.

The fact that the First Amendment provides an environment in which one "can" say anything he or she wishes, doesn't always mean they "should" and it certainly doesn't mean they are exempt from criticism.

Last Edited: 11/28/2011 11:56:26 AM by Bobcat36

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OhioCatFan
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/28/2011 11:42:57 AM

Bobcat36 wrote:

For a good dose of Marshall math mixed with Appalachian grammar all under a warm blanket of blind Groupthink loyalty, check out this gem from Aaron...

PF, I agree with your comments on this quote for virtually the same reasons you cite. Let, me add that I find B36's posts usually the be among the very best on this board and to often offer great insight. He is a true-blue OHIO guy. The lesson here is not to make any "hillbilly joke" that you wouldn't feel comfortable making about African Americans, Jews, Hispanics, Asians or any other racial or ethnic group.

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Bobcat36
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/28/2011 11:54:58 AM

Lesson learned the hard way OCF...

Let it be known I've never been one not to admit it (and apologize) when I'm wrong...

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OhioCatFan
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/28/2011 12:04:16 PM

Bobcat36 wrote:

Lesson learned the hard way OCF...

Let it be known I've never been one not to admit it (and apologize) when I'm wrong...

+1

Learning, that's what we are all about on this board!

JSF
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RE: Petition to remove in-game threads immediately following games

Posted: 11/28/2011 1:20:06 PM

OhioCatFan wrote:

Bobcat36 wrote:

For a good dose of Marshall math mixed with Appalachian grammar all under a warm blanket of blind Groupthink loyalty, check out this gem from Aaron...

Not that I disagree with what you mean (though colloquial grammar around these parts tends to chafe), "Appalachian" is not a racial/ethnic group.

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