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oubobcatjohn
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  Message Not Read  Time to bench Harden
   Posted: 10/22/2011 4:32:52 PM 
He bobbles the kickoff, then fumbles a few plays later in the drive. He fumble away the game with 4th quarter fumble last week. Solich needs to bench him because he doesn't focus. He is killing this team. We are struggling for the 4th week in a row. Bobcats are playing sloppy led by Tettleton and Harden with costly turnovers.
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Ohio Pilot
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  Message Not Read  RE: Time to bench Harden
   Posted: 10/22/2011 4:34:36 PM 
Besides the botched handoff harden is running like a beast and is our best running option. No reason to bench him. 
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Deciduous Forest Cat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Time to bench Harden
   Posted: 10/22/2011 4:41:10 PM 
He does run well when he's cooking, but each turnover is like taking 50 yards rushing off the board. If not more. he has to hold on to the ball or take a seat.
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Ohio Pilot
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  Message Not Read  RE: Time to bench Harden
   Posted: 10/22/2011 4:45:11 PM 
Deciduous Forest Cat wrote:
He does run well when he's cooking, but each turnover is like taking 50 yards rushing off the board. If not more. he has to hold on to the ball or take a seat.


true. And Beau is running pretty good right now. 
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oubobcatjohn
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  Message Not Read  RE: Time to bench Harden
   Posted: 10/22/2011 4:49:41 PM 
If you repeatedly turn the ball over you should be benched. There are other players who can hang onto the ball and run just as well.
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Deciduous Forest Cat
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  Message Not Read  RE: Time to bench Harden
   Posted: 10/22/2011 4:59:59 PM 
the fumble is hard to pin on Harden for sure - he was clearly running as if he didn't expect to have the ball... so it could have been either player that didn't know the play.
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oubobcatjohn
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  Message Not Read  RE: Time to bench Harden
   Posted: 10/22/2011 5:06:11 PM 
He fumbled twice last week.  One we recovered and the other Ball State recovered. 
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PutnamField
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  Message Not Read  RE: Time to bench Harden
   Posted: 10/22/2011 5:35:48 PM 
Fumbles aside, it's an utter embarassment that OUr starting running back has had an active arrest warrant in Athens County for more than one year:

http://docket.webxsol.com/athens/Last.jsp?Case_id=2010TRC00742&selection=D&type=t
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Robert Fox
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  Message Not Read  RE: Time to bench Harden
   Posted: 10/22/2011 5:44:18 PM 
Good Lord. Nice timing.
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PutnamField
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  Message Not Read  RE: Time to bench Harden
   Posted: 10/22/2011 6:01:45 PM 
When is the right time? That's an honest question.

How does nobody from the program push get it taken care of?

He's a traffic stop away from sleeping in Nelsonville.
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Buster
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  Message Not Read  RE: Time to bench Harden
   Posted: 10/22/2011 6:37:14 PM 
oubobcatjohn wrote:
He bobbles the kickoff, then fumbles a few plays later in the drive. He fumble away the game with 4th quarter fumble last week. Solich needs to bench him because he doesn't focus. He is killing this team. We are struggling for the 4th week in a row. Bobcats are playing sloppy led by Tettleton and Harden with costly turnovers.


Foolish...

I'll tell ya where we'll go. Someplace warm. A place where the beer flows like wine. Where beautiful women instinctively flock like the salmon of Capistrano. I'm talkin' bout a little place called... ATHENS.
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Pataskala
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  Message Not Read  RE: Time to bench Harden
   Posted: 10/22/2011 7:42:24 PM 
PutnamField wrote:
Fumbles aside, it's an utter embarassment that OUr starting running back has had an active arrest warrant in Athens County for more than one year:

http://docket.webxsol.com/athens/Last.jsp?Case_id=2010TRC...>



An embarrassment for who?  The team? No.  It shows that maybe he doesn't have the money and isn't willing to sell autographs or OU memorabilia to get it.

The fans?  No.  I didn't even know about it until you brought it up, so it's not like there's been a lot of hype about it.

The Athens County prosecutors?  Maybe.  But they know where to get him if they want him.

As for the fumbles, today's was a mixup as to who was to grab the kickoff on the bounce; last week's was either he was trying to do too much or was being prevented from going down by a defender who was waiting for help.

After he ran for 126 yds and all but scored the Cats' third touchdown of the day, benching him would be friggin nuts.


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We will get by.
We will get by.
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Paul Graham
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  Message Not Read  RE: Time to bench Harden
   Posted: 10/23/2011 1:41:13 AM 
PutnamField wrote:
When is the right time? That's an honest question.

How does nobody from the program push get it taken care of?

He's a traffic stop away from sleeping in Nelsonville.


I hope you have written a computer program to query those records automatically If you do this manually...well...I think you need a hobby. 
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Bobcat Grad 86
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   Posted: 10/23/2011 7:52:31 AM 
Paul Graham wrote:
PutnamField wrote:
When is the right time? That's an honest question.

How does nobody from the program push get it taken care of?

He's a traffic stop away from sleeping in Nelsonville.


I hope you have written a computer program to query those records automatically If you do this manually...well...I think you need a hobby. 


Maybe Putnam Field can conduct a "Citizens Arrest" at the next home game?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9efgLHgsBmM
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PutnamField
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  Message Not Read  RE: Time to bench Harden
   Posted: 10/23/2011 1:17:43 PM 
Bobcat Grad 86 wrote:
Maybe Putnam Field can conduct a "Citizens Arrest" at the next home game?


Hee hee, I'll be the one with a net and a copy of Ohio Revised Code.

Paul Graham wrote:
I hope you have written a computer program to query those records automatically If you do this manually...well...I think you need a hobby.


With a browser already open, it takes approx. 15 seconds to retrieve a case file. So, no thanks, I'm fine. Thanks for your concern, though. 

Donte Harden's DUI was already on my radar screen, so about a week ago I punched his name in to see if he'd dealt with it properly.

Carl Jones' domestic violence charge, which was mysteriously dropped, is also on my radar screen.

Pataskala wrote:
An embarrassment for who? The team? No. It shows that maybe he doesn't have the money and isn't willing to sell autographs or OU memorabilia to get it.

The fans? No. I didn't even know about it until you brought it up, so it's not like there's been a lot of hype about it.

The Athens County prosecutors? Maybe. But they know where to get him if they want him.


Apparently you don't subscribe to the saying, "Character is what you do when nobody's looking."

Or maybe you just think that getting a DUI and then not paying the fine and failing to appear in court is perfectly acceptable.

At the very least, it concerns me that we have an important player who could easily become unavailable if he has any contact with the police. 

 


Last Edited: 10/23/2011 1:18:31 PM by PutnamField
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Hooligan
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  Message Not Read  RE: Time to bench Harden
   Posted: 10/23/2011 1:42:28 PM 
oubobcatjohn wrote:
He bobbles the kickoff, then fumbles a few plays later in the drive. He fumble away the game with 4th quarter fumble last week. Solich needs to bench him because he doesn't focus. He is killing this team. We are struggling for the 4th week in a row. Bobcats are playing sloppy led by Tettleton and Harden with costly turnovers.


Are we watching the same team this year? Donte has fumble 3 times and lost one.  Boykin has 2 lost fumbles. Blankenship has 2 lost fumbles. Brazill has 1 lost fumble. Snyder has 1 lost fumble.  Tettleton has 5 ints and 5 fumbles.  So you want to bench Harden and put in the back ups who run for less than a yard and a half per carry than Harden, and fumble more? Harden is 15th in the NCAA in All Purpose Yards and 2 nationally in Kick Off Returns. How does your plan help this team?

 You want to blame last week on Harden?  Weller missed a kick, Shaw missed multiple tackles.  Christ, last week was lost on more than one play.


There's been some bad posts on here but this might take the award for worst.

Last Edited: 10/23/2011 1:49:49 PM by Hooligan
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Pataskala
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  Message Not Read  RE: Time to bench Harden
   Posted: 10/23/2011 2:09:11 PM 
PutnamField wrote:
Bobcat Grad 86 wrote:
Maybe Putnam Field can conduct a "Citizens Arrest" at the next home game?


Hee hee, I'll be the one with a net and a copy of Ohio Revised Code.

Paul Graham wrote:
I hope you have written a computer program to query those records automatically If you do this manually...well...I think you need a hobby.


With a browser already open, it takes approx. 15 seconds to retrieve a case file. So, no thanks, I'm fine. Thanks for your concern, though. 

Donte Harden's DUI was already on my radar screen, so about a week ago I punched his name in to see if he'd dealt with it properly.

Carl Jones' domestic violence charge, which was mysteriously dropped, is also on my radar screen.

Pataskala wrote:
An embarrassment for who? The team? No. It shows that maybe he doesn't have the money and isn't willing to sell autographs or OU memorabilia to get it.

The fans? No. I didn't even know about it until you brought it up, so it's not like there's been a lot of hype about it.

The Athens County prosecutors? Maybe. But they know where to get him if they want him.



Apparently you don't subscribe to the saying, "Character is what you do when nobody's looking."

Or maybe you just think that getting a DUI and then not paying the fine and failing to appear in court is perfectly acceptable.

At the very least, it concerns me that we have an important player who could easily become unavailable if he has any contact with the police. 

 



No. But I do subscribe to the notion that what people do in their private lives is really nobody else's business unless they break a rule that affects you.  Again, whether he has paid the fine or failed to appear in court is between him and the Athens County court system.  They apparently have no problem with it, so why should we.  They know where he is and can come get him at any time.  We don't know what's going on behind the scenes.  I'm sure his lawyer has made some arrangement to keep him out of trouble.  To suggest that he be pulled off the team without knowing all the facts is absurd and irresponsible.

We will get by.
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We will get by.
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Paul Graham
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  Message Not Read  RE: Time to bench Harden
   Posted: 10/23/2011 2:49:16 PM 
PutnamField wrote:


Paul Graham wrote:
I hope you have written a computer program to query those records automatically If you do this manually...well...I think you need a hobby.


With a browser already open, it takes approx. 15 seconds to retrieve a case file. So, no thanks, I'm fine. Thanks for your concern, though. 


That's per player. Do you search for every guy on the roster? Just the starters? I'm just trying to get an idea how much time and energy you waste on this.

Because, this is a very negative and downright sad little preoccupation you have. If you're concerned about an individual player, perhaps you should contact the athletic department. WE CAN'T HELP YOU.

And adding this information to a thread concerning a players performance on the football field is in very poor taste. Lets just hope Wesley Lowery is not reading this. We might see our friend Mr. Harden shamed publicly on the front page of The Post. 
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Bobcatzblitz
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   Posted: 10/23/2011 3:37:16 PM 
Never in my life have I seen such a such a TRASHY post by a supposed fan of the Ohio Bobcats. DO YOU NOT THINK THAT RECRUITS SEE THIS??? ARE YOU A COMPLETE IDIOT?? Ok I am done yelling but (*&. You sir need to GET A LIFE. If I was the moderator of this board you sir would be BANNED FOR LIFE. Carry your ARSE over to the golden calf!! These kids overall BUST THEIR @ss in the classroom and on the field. Mr Harden I have gotten to know personally and he BUSTS HIS @SS for OHIO UNIVERSITY. This kid had tomato soup and roman noodles in his fridge and he still shows up everyday ready to work. He doesnt have the money to pay a piddly FINE that is why he has been avoiding it. NO ONE GIVES OUR KIDS THOUSAND DOLLAR HANDSHAKES ..and you better believe that it happens EVERYWHERE. Who constantly monitors the arrest warrants for Ohio student athletes and calls themselves a FAN. Are you a bitter relative of a back up running back?? The biggest game of the year is coming up and you post this info? Great Job because as we all have seen we wont win with out Mr Harden.

Last Edited: 10/25/2011 7:21:49 PM by Jeff McKinney
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   Posted: 10/23/2011 6:38:33 PM 
threads like these are the worst. embarassing.

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PutnamField
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  Message Not Read  RE: Time to bench Harden
   Posted: 10/23/2011 6:48:01 PM 

Pataskala wrote:
To suggest that he be pulled off the team without knowing all the facts is absurd and irresponsible.


I never said he should be pulled off the team. I said it was amazing that it hadn't been taken care of.

Paul Graham wrote:
That's per player. Do you search for every guy on the roster? Just the starters? I'm just trying to get an idea how much time and energy you waste on this.

Because, this is a very negative and downright sad little preoccupation you have. If you're concerned about an individual player, perhaps you should contact the athletic department. WE CAN'T HELP YOU.

And adding this information to a thread concerning a players performance on the football field is in very poor taste. Lets just hope Wesley Lowery is not reading this. We might see our friend Mr. Harden shamed publicly on the front page of The Post.


Do you prefer I give it its own thread? I've done that. No, I do not check all the starters.

Bobcatzblitz wrote:
Never in my life have I seen such a such a TRASHY post by a supposed fan of the Ohio Bobcats. DO YOU NOT THINK THAT RECRUITS SEE THIS??? ARE YOU A COMPLETE IDIOT?? Ok I am done yelling but WTF. You sir need to GET A LIFE. If I was the moderator of this board you sir would be BANNED FOR LIFE. Carry your ARSE over to the golden calf!! These kids overall BUST THEIR @ss in the classroom and on the field. Mr Harden I have gotten to know personally and he BUSTS HIS @SS for OHIO UNIVERSITY. This kid had tomato soup and roman noodles in his fridge and he still shows up everyday ready to work. He doesnt have the money to pay a piddly FINE that is why he has been avoiding it. NO ONE GIVES OUR KIDS THOUSAND DOLLAR HANDSHAKES ..and you better believe that it happens EVERYWHERE. Who constantly monitors the arrest warrants for Ohio student athletes and calls themselves a FAN. Are you a bitter relative of a back up running back?? The biggest game of the year is coming up and you post this info? Great Job because as we all have seen we wont win with out Mr Harden.


Ban me for what? It's not like I only post negative stuff, and this stuff is public record for a reason. Actually, I'm pretty sure Paul Graham's user name violates the terms of service. Unless Snoop the former Atlanta Hawk is doing yoga in Ewane Nanji's basement. 

I'll kick down $20 toward paying Harden's fine. We could raise the money easily. I totally get that he's not from some rich family - sh%t he was driving a 2000 Hyundai. These guys should be getting paid anyway. I think it's ridiculous that they're not. 

I've already explained my motivations for exposing the scofflaw tendencies, so go search the archives if you're curious.

 
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Bobcatzblitz
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   Posted: 10/23/2011 8:23:16 PM 
Your justification is irrelevant I could understand if it was a serious charge of some sort or the guy was causing trouble around town but no Harden is working hard and graduating this year. Once again thanks for providing your support to Ohio Athletics! I doubt you look up any back ground info on the soccer or volleyball teams. Credit checks etc.
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Jerry86
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   Posted: 10/23/2011 11:56:44 PM 
PutnamField wrote:

Pataskala wrote:
To suggest that he be pulled off the team without knowing all the facts is absurd and irresponsible.


I never said he should be pulled off the team. I said it was amazing that it hadn't been taken care of.

Paul Graham wrote:
That's per player. Do you search for every guy on the roster? Just the starters? I'm just trying to get an idea how much time and energy you waste on this.

Because, this is a very negative and downright sad little preoccupation you have. If you're concerned about an individual player, perhaps you should contact the athletic department. WE CAN'T HELP YOU.

And adding this information to a thread concerning a players performance on the football field is in very poor taste. Lets just hope Wesley Lowery is not reading this. We might see our friend Mr. Harden shamed publicly on the front page of The Post.


Do you prefer I give it its own thread? I've done that. No, I do not check all the starters.

Bobcatzblitz wrote:
Never in my life have I seen such a such a TRASHY post by a supposed fan of the Ohio Bobcats. DO YOU NOT THINK THAT RECRUITS SEE THIS??? ARE YOU A COMPLETE IDIOT?? Ok I am done yelling but WTF. You sir need to GET A LIFE. If I was the moderator of this board you sir would be BANNED FOR LIFE. Carry your ARSE over to the golden calf!! These kids overall BUST THEIR @ss in the classroom and on the field. Mr Harden I have gotten to know personally and he BUSTS HIS @SS for OHIO UNIVERSITY. This kid had tomato soup and roman noodles in his fridge and he still shows up everyday ready to work. He doesnt have the money to pay a piddly FINE that is why he has been avoiding it. NO ONE GIVES OUR KIDS THOUSAND DOLLAR HANDSHAKES ..and you better believe that it happens EVERYWHERE. Who constantly monitors the arrest warrants for Ohio student athletes and calls themselves a FAN. Are you a bitter relative of a back up running back?? The biggest game of the year is coming up and you post this info? Great Job because as we all have seen we wont win with out Mr Harden.


Ban me for what? It's not like I only post negative stuff, and this stuff is public record for a reason. Actually, I'm pretty sure Paul Graham's user name violates the terms of service. Unless Snoop the former Atlanta Hawk is doing yoga in Ewane Nanji's basement. 

I'll kick down $20 toward paying Harden's fine. We could raise the money easily. I totally get that he's not from some rich family - sh%t he was driving a 2000 Hyundai. These guys should be getting paid anyway. I think it's ridiculous that they're not. 

I've already explained my motivations for exposing the scofflaw tendencies, so go search the archives if you're curious.

 



Is your IQ > 80?

So Snoop is the only Bobcat alum with the name Paul Graham?

Amazing at some of the idiotic posts here.  Not sure anyone can top Putnam though. Wonder if he actually graduated.
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Paul Graham
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  Message Not Read  RE: Time to bench Harden
   Posted: 10/24/2011 12:09:17 AM 
PutnamField wrote:

Ban me for what? It's not like I only post negative stuff, and this stuff is public record for a reason. Actually, I'm pretty sure Paul Graham's user name violates the terms of service. Unless Snoop the former Atlanta Hawk is doing yoga in Ewane Nanji's basement.


This is a non-issue. I've already mentioned my real name on another thread: Dontrell Flenorl-Hookfin the 3'rd.
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OhioCatFan
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  Message Not Read  RE: Time to bench Harden
   Posted: 10/24/2011 11:42:21 PM 
Any relation to Steve Hookfin?

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